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Sky_
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada116 Posts
June 16 2012 18:02 GMT
#12201
Seriously... that IAS nerf is going to prevent almost everyone buying IAS items. Crit-chance is now way better.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 16 2012 18:05 GMT
#12202
On June 17 2012 03:02 Sky_ wrote:
Seriously... that IAS nerf is going to prevent almost everyone buying IAS items. Crit-chance is now way better.


I wonder what the deal is with the insane nerf, my quiver now only gives me 4% instead of 11%. Srsly from where is this coming?
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
biomech
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany380 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 18:10:13
June 16 2012 18:09 GMT
#12203
IAS nerf is about to destroy the game for me. not because of the damage lost, but because of the "fun" lost.
pew.........pew.........pew........... instead of pewpewpew? fuck that.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
June 16 2012 18:13 GMT
#12204
On June 17 2012 03:09 biomech wrote:
IAS nerf is about to destroy the game for me. not because of the damage lost, but because of the "fun" lost.
pew.........pew.........pew........... instead of pewpewpew? fuck that.


The game is already very slow compared to D2 :mass teleport, insane movement speed with assassins/anyone with charms, crazy IAS (guided arrow zons/filling the screen with multishot/etc).

I can't fathom why they want to make it even slower.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
June 16 2012 18:19 GMT
#12205
Good thing I was already getting rid of IAS
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
June 16 2012 18:25 GMT
#12206
LOL what the fuck is this nerf...

Haha good job Blizzard at pissing your players even more, good job
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
June 16 2012 18:29 GMT
#12207
OH MY GOD

dat ias nerf into the ground

going to sell everything i own with ias when i get online

swap to crit before the prices go through the roof (probably already have)
Arise, chicken sandwich.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
June 16 2012 18:30 GMT
#12208
That IAS nerf seems a bit strong to put it mildly. I had expected either a targeted nerf of specific items/slots or something more on the order of a 25-33% nerf. This just makes it easily the worst pound for pound damage stat, nearly killing it. I imagine a few of the unique items that have IAS on a slot that doesn't usually will "survive" along with a few insanely good gloves that have crit stats alongside IAS, but not much else.

Sounds like monks are in real trouble, and DH's might no longer have much reason to be complained about.

A close to 2/3 nerf...from Blizzard...and I always filed half their nerfs under "too little, too late, metagame shifting already did more to resolve it than they did."
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 16 2012 18:49 GMT
#12209
They're going to put enrage timers on Kulle siegebreaker and azmodan... And why wasn't this in the game already? That's right, because it wasn't finished when they released it.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
June 16 2012 18:50 GMT
#12210
Crit was already better before the nerf, especially because it stacked better the more u had it, now ias will be utterly useless. Gj blizz, going to search increase crit rings to replace mine.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 19:00:42
June 16 2012 18:50 GMT
#12211
haha rofl if that is true... well good my DH hasn't that much ias stuff, but my WD has tons of it. and without that he'll suck even more :D

maybe it'll just affect new items, but not the old ones. imagine the terror from the people that bought stuff over the RMAH xD 250€ for an item that got nerfed to the ground.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 19:10:13
June 16 2012 19:08 GMT
#12212
On June 17 2012 03:49 solidbebe wrote:
They're going to put enrage timers on Kulle siegebreaker and azmodan... And why wasn't this in the game already? That's right, because it wasn't finished when they released it.

Enrage timers? Those bosses die in less than 20 seconds anyways.

If those IAS nerfs are true I feel VERY sorry for whoever bought these.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23462 Posts
June 16 2012 19:09 GMT
#12213
If you're a geared ranged class...
aka Teutonica
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 19:13:37
June 16 2012 19:13 GMT
#12214
anyway, i thought IAS uniques didn't work anyway? as in boots, helmet, bracers, chest armor etc (slots which don't naturally have IAS)

so i don't quite understand why people have already been wearing them? my boots definitely didnt give IAS.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
June 16 2012 19:17 GMT
#12215
On June 17 2012 04:13 HolydaKing wrote:
anyway, i thought IAS uniques didn't work anyway? as in boots, helmet, bracers, chest armor etc (slots which don't naturally have IAS)

so i don't quite understand why people have already been wearing them? my boots definitely didnt give IAS.

"Increases attack speed" doesn't work. "Attack speed increase by" works.

I kind of hope this nerf is real, because atm ranged classes clear inferno WAYYYY to easily. Before I sold all my DH's stuff it was doing 250k dps w/ sharpshooter(105k w/o, 20% innate crit chance) and could do seige runs in 10-12 minutes if underbridge spawned.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 16 2012 19:19 GMT
#12216
that ias nerf is intense. glad i kept my offhand so that i can switch back to one handed weapons for my wizzy~!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 19:21:56
June 16 2012 19:21 GMT
#12217
On June 17 2012 04:17 superbabosheki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:13 HolydaKing wrote:
anyway, i thought IAS uniques didn't work anyway? as in boots, helmet, bracers, chest armor etc (slots which don't naturally have IAS)

so i don't quite understand why people have already been wearing them? my boots definitely didnt give IAS.

"Increases attack speed" doesn't work. "Attack speed increase by" works.

I kind of hope this nerf is real, because atm ranged classes clear inferno WAYYYY to easily. Before I sold all my DH's stuff it was doing 250k dps w/ sharpshooter(105k w/o, 20% innate crit chance) and could do seige runs in 10-12 minutes if underbridge spawned.

Thanks for answering!

To be honest though, DH will still be fine. If you go for high dex and crit&crit dmg your DPS is still very very high. So i think other classes might get hit more, those who didn't have much DPS.
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
June 16 2012 19:23 GMT
#12218
On June 17 2012 04:21 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 04:17 superbabosheki wrote:
On June 17 2012 04:13 HolydaKing wrote:
anyway, i thought IAS uniques didn't work anyway? as in boots, helmet, bracers, chest armor etc (slots which don't naturally have IAS)

so i don't quite understand why people have already been wearing them? my boots definitely didnt give IAS.

"Increases attack speed" doesn't work. "Attack speed increase by" works.

I kind of hope this nerf is real, because atm ranged classes clear inferno WAYYYY to easily. Before I sold all my DH's stuff it was doing 250k dps w/ sharpshooter(105k w/o, 20% innate crit chance) and could do seige runs in 10-12 minutes if underbridge spawned.

To be honest though, DH will still be fine. If you go for high dex and crit&crit dmg your DPS is still very very high. So i think other classes might get hit more, those who didn't have much DPS.

Naw it will hurt DH's a lot. The way the class was played was to do as many hits through smokescreen as you possibly can. I stacked attack speed on weapon, gloves, helm, chest, ring, ring, ammy, had 2.2k dex, and barely killed most packs in the 6 ss time.
Irrelevant Label
Profile Joined January 2012
United States596 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 22:43:06
June 16 2012 19:31 GMT
#12219
Some did, some did not. For the most part the pattern is that those worded such that the acronym would be ASI do not.

Visage seems like it will remain a best option as it can have a reasonably good int/dex score and has some crit, so even a nerfed IAS is still setting it out ahead of what a random rare can be. With that in mind the price might overcrash in response to the nerf making them very worth picking up. Lacuni prowlers might survive as well thanks to also having move speed. Similar for Inna's Glory (once it works), and maybe even Flavor of Time. The IAS will probably not be able to carry the low stat scores on the lower level legendaries though; boj anglers and the like will only be getting fixed in time to be rendered useless (to level 60s) it seems. The rule of thumb where getting IAS on a slot that can only usually spawn int/dex for offense is really good will still hold true though.

It is the random items that really lose in this. That choice between crit damage/chance and IAS just switched from being slanted in favor of the IAS to not being a much of a real choice at all in favor of the crit.

Edit: On the DH, it is true that the nerf will hit them a bit harder as every DH is 'married' to an IAS slot with their quiver. That will simply be nerfed and there is no reitemizing for something else. Second edit: seems that is not the case as the same datamining has indicated that quivers were spared from the IAS nerf.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
June 16 2012 19:46 GMT
#12220
On June 17 2012 03:50 Gheizen64 wrote:
Crit was already better before the nerf, especially because it stacked better the more u had it, now ias will be utterly useless. Gj blizz, going to search increase crit rings to replace mine.


Do you mean if you're using crit proc abilities? crit doesn't get better if you stack it otherwise
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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