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Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
June 17 2012 12:32 GMT
#12281
Or you could change your playstyle. Personally I have quite a bit of IAS, but I am waiting for the patch details (instead of rumours) before i decide to change anything. Stacking crit/crit damage on any slot possible seems to be the best alternative for damage dealing, but you need a decently fast mainhand to make that work.

If the rumoured changes happen, what definitly will happen is that signature spells disappear from many builds again.
adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
June 17 2012 13:28 GMT
#12282
On June 17 2012 21:32 Tula wrote:
Or you could change your playstyle. Personally I have quite a bit of IAS, but I am waiting for the patch details (instead of rumours) before i decide to change anything. Stacking crit/crit damage on any slot possible seems to be the best alternative for damage dealing, but you need a decently fast mainhand to make that work.

If the rumoured changes happen, what definitly will happen is that signature spells disappear from many builds again.


Not really rumours are they, its data-mined information from the patched version on the Blizzard servers, so while its subject to change of course as its not gone live yet, its pretty unlikely. In that version IAS on gear is cut by about 50%, which to me sounds about right for bringing IAS back in line with other stats. Making it useful, just not significantly better than crit chance / dmg or other dps stats. If it turns out to be an over nerf I'd be confident in saying it will be reworked over time.

You won't need to change anything, just expect your style to not be the killer style it once was.

What isn't in that information is how inferno has been retuned as that information is all server side, so while IAS may well have been nerfed it'll probably likely that due to inferno tweaks you don't feel any less powerful than before, its just there are now more options (ie good balance).

On June 17 2012 20:37 DannyJ wrote:
Assuming the IAS on gear is getting cut by 50%, which is the number circling around, what is that change going to do to IAS item cost? It seems like everyone thinks the prices will plummet completely, but is that true at all? Will it make IAS even more coveted? It almost seems like you might HAVE to stack it now, and any item slot that could possibly have IAS you'd want it there.


Markets are fickle, its possible IAS items will plummet in value briefy for the reason you said, people think they will, but as I stated I don't think its going to make IAS useless, even if its temporarily useless Blizzard would fix it eventually (1.1 or a hotfix). My only advice is don't buy anything expensive, if you see a good deal from panic sellers its probably worth picking up if you want to use the items but its a gamble if you're buying to resell as we don't know what the effects will be yet. I still think that IAS will be a prized stat, it just won't be a case of items with IAS selling for 10x the price of those without it because its the only stat worth having.

Its a safe bet that Blizzard want it to be a case that good IAS rolls are valuable but at the same time, great crit chance / dmg rolls are better than average IAS rolls so those top items will likely retain value, but middle of the road items wont.

IAS weapons will become significantly cheaper as their dps will reduce significantly, I think the most likely effect of this will be less mega dps blues, which is good in my opinion.
zbedlam
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia549 Posts
June 17 2012 13:37 GMT
#12283
On June 17 2012 13:28 Juviax wrote:
Is this game still worth getting? I haven't had the chance to play it at all since release, but since holidays are coming up I'm trying my best to gather up $80 to buy it, but recently it's been receiving lots of negativity... Any suggestions? I don't wanna waste $80 on something that I'm not going to have a good time playing


Not really at the moment, it might be worthwhile once they add some content to it. It gave me about 40 hours of entertainment which isn't too bad for $80.
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
June 17 2012 13:54 GMT
#12284
On June 17 2012 22:28 adwodon wrote:
IAS weapons will become significantly cheaper as their dps will reduce significantly, I think the most likely effect of this will be less mega dps blues, which is good in my opinion.

The mega dps blues doesn't have attack speed. This will actually make rares worse in compared to blues.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 17 2012 14:34 GMT
#12285
http://www.tikisaurus.com/blog/pc/the-most-amazing-diablo-iii-cosplay-youve-ever-seen.html

fucking sick cosplays
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 17 2012 15:06 GMT
#12286
On June 17 2012 23:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.tikisaurus.com/blog/pc/the-most-amazing-diablo-iii-cosplay-youve-ever-seen.html

fucking sick cosplays


Wow those are seriously amazing, first ones don't even look real.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
June 17 2012 17:00 GMT
#12287
On June 17 2012 22:54 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 22:28 adwodon wrote:
IAS weapons will become significantly cheaper as their dps will reduce significantly, I think the most likely effect of this will be less mega dps blues, which is good in my opinion.

The mega dps blues doesn't have attack speed. This will actually make rares worse in compared to blues.


Seems you're right, my mistake. Shame about that.
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
June 17 2012 17:24 GMT
#12288
On June 17 2012 22:28 adwodon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 21:32 Tula wrote:
Or you could change your playstyle. Personally I have quite a bit of IAS, but I am waiting for the patch details (instead of rumours) before i decide to change anything. Stacking crit/crit damage on any slot possible seems to be the best alternative for damage dealing, but you need a decently fast mainhand to make that work.

If the rumoured changes happen, what definitly will happen is that signature spells disappear from many builds again.


Not really rumours are they, its data-mined information from the patched version on the Blizzard servers, so while its subject to change of course as its not gone live yet, its pretty unlikely. In that version IAS on gear is cut by about 50%, which to me sounds about right for bringing IAS back in line with other stats. Making it useful, just not significantly better than crit chance / dmg or other dps stats. If it turns out to be an over nerf I'd be confident in saying it will be reworked over time.

You won't need to change anything, just expect your style to not be the killer style it once was.

What isn't in that information is how inferno has been retuned as that information is all server side, so while IAS may well have been nerfed it'll probably likely that due to inferno tweaks you don't feel any less powerful than before, its just there are now more options (ie good balance).

Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 20:37 DannyJ wrote:
Assuming the IAS on gear is getting cut by 50%, which is the number circling around, what is that change going to do to IAS item cost? It seems like everyone thinks the prices will plummet completely, but is that true at all? Will it make IAS even more coveted? It almost seems like you might HAVE to stack it now, and any item slot that could possibly have IAS you'd want it there.


Markets are fickle, its possible IAS items will plummet in value briefy for the reason you said, people think they will, but as I stated I don't think its going to make IAS useless, even if its temporarily useless Blizzard would fix it eventually (1.1 or a hotfix). My only advice is don't buy anything expensive, if you see a good deal from panic sellers its probably worth picking up if you want to use the items but its a gamble if you're buying to resell as we don't know what the effects will be yet. I still think that IAS will be a prized stat, it just won't be a case of items with IAS selling for 10x the price of those without it because its the only stat worth having.

Its a safe bet that Blizzard want it to be a case that good IAS rolls are valuable but at the same time, great crit chance / dmg rolls are better than average IAS rolls so those top items will likely retain value, but middle of the road items wont.

IAS weapons will become significantly cheaper as their dps will reduce significantly, I think the most likely effect of this will be less mega dps blues, which is good in my opinion.

You should start stacking crit dmg + crit chance. Items with these properties are still relatively cheap, snag them before they increase in price (permanently) once the nerf hits.
=Þ
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
June 18 2012 04:07 GMT
#12289
Really sad. farmed 4 stacks, went to get a popsicle and decided to get the 5th mouse only. Ended in tragedy as I accidentally dragged a skill off bar. Red bean popsicle OP
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
June 18 2012 04:17 GMT
#12290
On June 18 2012 13:07 Amui wrote:
Really sad. farmed 4 stacks, went to get a popsicle and decided to get the 5th mouse only. Ended in tragedy as I accidentally dragged a skill off bar. Red bean popsicle OP


This is exactly why I use elective mode.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
June 18 2012 04:18 GMT
#12291
On June 18 2012 13:17 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 13:07 Amui wrote:
Really sad. farmed 4 stacks, went to get a popsicle and decided to get the 5th mouse only. Ended in tragedy as I accidentally dragged a skill off bar. Red bean popsicle OP


This is exactly why I use elective mode.


You mean turn it off?

Yeah I probably should've done that =(
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 18 2012 04:22 GMT
#12292
Turn it on after you selected your skills. I think it locks your stuff in place.
twitch.tv/medrea
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
June 18 2012 08:14 GMT
#12293
On June 18 2012 13:22 Medrea wrote:
Turn it on after you selected your skills. I think it locks your stuff in place.

Other way around actually. Turn it off to lock them
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6106 Posts
June 18 2012 10:07 GMT
#12294
So sick of this game and it's artificial difficulty.

Grind and gear >>> skill.
#1 Terran hater
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
June 18 2012 10:33 GMT
#12295
On June 18 2012 19:07 Highways wrote:
So sick of this game and it's artificial difficulty.

Grind and gear >>> skill.

There's hardcore mode for that.
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
June 18 2012 10:40 GMT
#12296
On June 18 2012 00:06 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 23:34 Torte de Lini wrote:
http://www.tikisaurus.com/blog/pc/the-most-amazing-diablo-iii-cosplay-youve-ever-seen.html

fucking sick cosplays


Wow those are seriously amazing, first ones don't even look real.


Well that's probably because they're 90% photoshop.^^
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
hfxRos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada87 Posts
June 18 2012 12:52 GMT
#12297
On June 18 2012 19:07 Highways wrote:
So sick of this game and it's artificial difficulty.

Grind and gear >>> skill.


I'm sure the forums at http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/ would be very interested in hearing your thoughts on Diablo 3's difficulty.
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
June 18 2012 14:26 GMT
#12298
Does anyone think "Ignore Durability Loss" is also a pretty worthless property without ethereal items in the game? It seems like they carried over a lot of these things (with the most frequently complained about being white items) from D2 without thinking... Game design fail.
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
June 18 2012 14:28 GMT
#12299
On June 18 2012 23:26 Glacierz wrote:
Does anyone think "Ignore Durability Loss" is also a pretty worthless property without ethereal items in the game? It seems like they carried over a lot of these things (with the most frequently complained about being white items) from D2 without thinking... Game design fail.

but repair cost is going up in the next patch! BUY BUY BUY those indestructible items!
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 18 2012 14:29 GMT
#12300
On June 18 2012 23:28 ballasdontcry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 23:26 Glacierz wrote:
Does anyone think "Ignore Durability Loss" is also a pretty worthless property without ethereal items in the game? It seems like they carried over a lot of these things (with the most frequently complained about being white items) from D2 without thinking... Game design fail.

but repair cost is going up in the next patch! BUY BUY BUY those indestructible items!


Problem is they usually suck.
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
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