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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 19 2012 02:20 GMT
#12321
I just figure this month would be the last Tuesday of the month.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 19 2012 02:58 GMT
#12322
just wait for all of the kids whining on cue that maintenance is taking too long
most annoying thing in the fucking world
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 19 2012 04:26 GMT
#12323
On June 19 2012 10:11 Heh_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 09:29 ObliviousNA wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:14 Slaughter wrote:
Are drops from bosses increased the first time you down them? It seems every time I get rares the first time but if I do i a few more times its just all blues.


If you mean from normal->nightmare->hell, then yes. I rarely got yellows in NM and hell from bosses, but all the time in normal. This is by design, game doesn't restart until level 60 and nephalem valor stacks. If you mean inferno runs with 5 stacks of NV, I think that's not true. I do butcher runs and average ~2.8 yellows/run.

The idea is correct, but phrased in a horrible way. I'll rephrase it:

The very first time you kill a boss (which generally occurs in normal difficulty), it drops 2 or more guaranteed rares. If you kill that boss again (in any difficulty), it will drop the same amount of loot as any other elite (a few blues).

When you hit lvl60, you gain a buff known as nephalem valor. When you kill an elite (gold or blue text, not purple), you gain 1 level of buff, up to a maximum of 5. This buff gives you +15% magic and gold find per level. However, when fighting bosses, the valor buff changes. 5 stack buff gives you 2 guaranteed rares from the boss (no one usually fights bosses without 5 stack of buff).

In a upcoming patch, they're changing the way nephalem valor works. When you have 5 stack of valor, every elite drops 1 guaranteed rare. Bosses will also drop 1 guaranteed rare, basically a nerf to reduce farming bosses (bosses tend to be easier to kill than most elites...).


Thank you. I am just now starting NM (just killed skeleton king). I am progressing with friends so we are slowly beating the game but I was wondering if its even worth it to farm shit when your lvl 35 in NM mode lol and if so bosses? Because it seems like killing elites are better in D3 from what I have seen people say but I am a noob so I have no idea on these things yet.
Never Knows Best.
BaconSoup
Profile Joined January 2012
New Zealand60 Posts
June 19 2012 04:29 GMT
#12324
On the topic of leveling, is 57-58 in 25 minutes quick?
Win lane, Win game.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 19 2012 04:58 GMT
#12325
On June 19 2012 13:26 Slaughter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 10:11 Heh_ wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:29 ObliviousNA wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:14 Slaughter wrote:
Are drops from bosses increased the first time you down them? It seems every time I get rares the first time but if I do i a few more times its just all blues.


If you mean from normal->nightmare->hell, then yes. I rarely got yellows in NM and hell from bosses, but all the time in normal. This is by design, game doesn't restart until level 60 and nephalem valor stacks. If you mean inferno runs with 5 stacks of NV, I think that's not true. I do butcher runs and average ~2.8 yellows/run.

The idea is correct, but phrased in a horrible way. I'll rephrase it:

The very first time you kill a boss (which generally occurs in normal difficulty), it drops 2 or more guaranteed rares. If you kill that boss again (in any difficulty), it will drop the same amount of loot as any other elite (a few blues).

When you hit lvl60, you gain a buff known as nephalem valor. When you kill an elite (gold or blue text, not purple), you gain 1 level of buff, up to a maximum of 5. This buff gives you +15% magic and gold find per level. However, when fighting bosses, the valor buff changes. 5 stack buff gives you 2 guaranteed rares from the boss (no one usually fights bosses without 5 stack of buff).

In a upcoming patch, they're changing the way nephalem valor works. When you have 5 stack of valor, every elite drops 1 guaranteed rare. Bosses will also drop 1 guaranteed rare, basically a nerf to reduce farming bosses (bosses tend to be easier to kill than most elites...).


Thank you. I am just now starting NM (just killed skeleton king). I am progressing with friends so we are slowly beating the game but I was wondering if its even worth it to farm shit when your lvl 35 in NM mode lol and if so bosses? Because it seems like killing elites are better in D3 from what I have seen people say but I am a noob so I have no idea on these things yet.


From another forum, quoted:
"30-50 Nightmare progression should go fairly quick. SAVE AS MUCH GOLD AS YOU CAN you will need it shortly. 200k GOLD is IDEAL
IMPORTANT ***47-50 **** This is where most people go wrong. Stop playing Search Auction house for new weapon. Set min level to 60 on auction house Set filter to "Reduced Level Requirement by 10 to 13) You are looking for a weapon that you can wear at level 47-50 that is a end game weapon with over 400+dps and either a socket or your primary stat.
Now that you have your weapon. Shop for armor with all resist try to get bare minimum of 100 resist all + primary stat + vit if possible 2 outta 3 is acceptable.no piece of armor should cost more than 5k gold. Goal is to have spent least ammount of gold untill you reach 60. While still maintaing an effective leveling gear upkeep.
50-60 Hell Progression. If you beat Hell before 60 you can farm act 3 azmo trash mobs or Act 4 Iskatu . Should be only 3 levels to grind."
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
June 19 2012 05:02 GMT
#12326
On June 19 2012 13:58 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 13:26 Slaughter wrote:
On June 19 2012 10:11 Heh_ wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:29 ObliviousNA wrote:
On June 19 2012 09:14 Slaughter wrote:
Are drops from bosses increased the first time you down them? It seems every time I get rares the first time but if I do i a few more times its just all blues.


If you mean from normal->nightmare->hell, then yes. I rarely got yellows in NM and hell from bosses, but all the time in normal. This is by design, game doesn't restart until level 60 and nephalem valor stacks. If you mean inferno runs with 5 stacks of NV, I think that's not true. I do butcher runs and average ~2.8 yellows/run.

The idea is correct, but phrased in a horrible way. I'll rephrase it:

The very first time you kill a boss (which generally occurs in normal difficulty), it drops 2 or more guaranteed rares. If you kill that boss again (in any difficulty), it will drop the same amount of loot as any other elite (a few blues).

When you hit lvl60, you gain a buff known as nephalem valor. When you kill an elite (gold or blue text, not purple), you gain 1 level of buff, up to a maximum of 5. This buff gives you +15% magic and gold find per level. However, when fighting bosses, the valor buff changes. 5 stack buff gives you 2 guaranteed rares from the boss (no one usually fights bosses without 5 stack of buff).

In a upcoming patch, they're changing the way nephalem valor works. When you have 5 stack of valor, every elite drops 1 guaranteed rare. Bosses will also drop 1 guaranteed rare, basically a nerf to reduce farming bosses (bosses tend to be easier to kill than most elites...).


Thank you. I am just now starting NM (just killed skeleton king). I am progressing with friends so we are slowly beating the game but I was wondering if its even worth it to farm shit when your lvl 35 in NM mode lol and if so bosses? Because it seems like killing elites are better in D3 from what I have seen people say but I am a noob so I have no idea on these things yet.


From another forum, quoted:
"30-50 Nightmare progression should go fairly quick. SAVE AS MUCH GOLD AS YOU CAN you will need it shortly. 200k GOLD is IDEAL
IMPORTANT ***47-50 **** This is where most people go wrong. Stop playing Search Auction house for new weapon. Set min level to 60 on auction house Set filter to "Reduced Level Requirement by 10 to 13) You are looking for a weapon that you can wear at level 47-50 that is a end game weapon with over 400+dps and either a socket or your primary stat.
Now that you have your weapon. Shop for armor with all resist try to get bare minimum of 100 resist all + primary stat + vit if possible 2 outta 3 is acceptable.no piece of armor should cost more than 5k gold. Goal is to have spent least ammount of gold untill you reach 60. While still maintaing an effective leveling gear upkeep.
50-60 Hell Progression. If you beat Hell before 60 you can farm act 3 azmo trash mobs or Act 4 Iskatu . Should be only 3 levels to grind."


Thanks a lot!
Never Knows Best.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 19 2012 05:08 GMT
#12327
No problem Reduced level requirement trick turned my 50 monk into a beast haha
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
June 19 2012 05:36 GMT
#12328
Why did every NPC suddenly become British? This has been bugging me for a while.
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
June 19 2012 06:11 GMT
#12329
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5869897212?page=1

My 19% IAS Dead Mans Legacy is now worth BILLIONS =P j/k i wouldn't sell it anyways lol
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
June 19 2012 06:31 GMT
#12330
New nerf is so stupid. Everything is affected.. EXCEPT FOR QUIVERS? Dh were already borderline retarded cos they can have a 2hand and offhand that gives dps, whereas normally dualwield would give attkspd. Now with the new nerf... nothing changes?

Its like they only want us to play dh. Yayyyyyyy
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
June 19 2012 06:54 GMT
#12331
Staying up to watch Kripp beat Diablo Inferno on Hardcore. Right now he is just practicing vs Diablo on Softcore barb with similar gear.
http://www.twitch.tv/nl_kripp
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 07:03:01
June 19 2012 06:59 GMT
#12332
On June 19 2012 15:31 T0fuuu wrote:
New nerf is so stupid. Everything is affected.. EXCEPT FOR QUIVERS? Dh were already borderline retarded cos they can have a 2hand and offhand that gives dps, whereas normally dualwield would give attkspd. Now with the new nerf... nothing changes?

Its like they only want us to play dh. Yayyyyyyy

I don't understand why you are crying, but your logic fails.

I can tell you many reasons why you are wrong but I'll just post one out of laziness. Go look at the highest bow's dps, then go look at the highest axe's dps. 2h vs 2h a fair comparison? nope.

Obviously DH was the most broken class farm wise pre patch, but post patch if the monsters have higher hp and do less damage as the preview suggests, DH will take the hardest hit. Less attack speed, high monster hp, and still die in 1-2 hits due to no damage mitigation skills besides gloom(which sucks).

And this isn't a competitive game, who actually cares about class balance? LOL.


On June 19 2012 15:54 BlackMagister wrote:
Staying up to watch Kripp beat Diablo Inferno on Hardcore. Right now he is just practicing vs Diablo on Softcore barb with similar gear.
http://www.twitch.tv/nl_kripp

I'd say he has a 95% chance to succeed. Most softcore barbs w/ similar gear are able to solo Diablo with a pretty high success rate, only difference is that he probably has higher hp/armor/resists while softcore chars have higher dps.
Xanbatou
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States805 Posts
June 19 2012 08:03 GMT
#12333
On June 19 2012 15:11 WirelessWaffle wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5869897212?page=1

My 19% IAS Dead Mans Legacy is now worth BILLIONS =P j/k i wouldn't sell it anyways lol


Wtf, is there actually a way to play inferno as a monk without high attack speed? What are monks (and I assume barbarians) supposed to do now?
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
June 19 2012 08:20 GMT
#12334
On June 19 2012 17:03 Xanbatou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2012 15:11 WirelessWaffle wrote:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5869897212?page=1

My 19% IAS Dead Mans Legacy is now worth BILLIONS =P j/k i wouldn't sell it anyways lol


Wtf, is there actually a way to play inferno as a monk without high attack speed? What are monks (and I assume barbarians) supposed to do now?

tank?
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 08:54:23
June 19 2012 08:48 GMT
#12335
Btw with tanking you just mean "farm rep costs that i dont have to learn how to play and can just stick to my OMG DPS Build", right? Its so hard to take a deeper look into a class and see "well there are a lot of survivability things" and "well i could get resis too maybe?" ....Nah just pick the Items with most dps and if something is shitty i will just die my way to finish.

Serious most of this stuff i see I would never ever play in HC. People are playing with a game plan that includes dieing and thats so stupid. If it is not HardCore it simply does not matter. Like, lets say next MLG no Koreans are showing up. Nobody will really care about the winner cause he didnt play against the best. Or if you go to your friends and tell them you had amazing sex last night. And if they ask you with who you say your own wife. People will just turn around and talk about another thing.

The Attackspeed nerf will not hurt melees that much as demonhunters. It will not help to balance them out. It will just make it again harder for melees in a way. We will focus on something other. I focus anyway on Crit more then on Attackspeed cause it was in a way logical that they will nerf this stat cause its way to powerfull. Btw thx demonhunters for making melees life harder ^^
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
June 19 2012 08:53 GMT
#12336
You do realize that act 1 and 2 are already very very easy. Act 3/4 are very manageable, and pretty easy once you get geared. They are NERFING inferno monster damage, making it easier for barbs/monks to progress through the game.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-19 09:02:23
June 19 2012 08:59 GMT
#12337
Its not the damage that made us problems. Problem was that we cauld not farm gear for Act 3 and 4 cause we have more requirements then ranged classes. Just dps does not work for melees in. So we had to buy items. And this is just not Ok. And blizzard changed it. Its ok for me that ranged classes are OP till melees get their gear up and starting to get a not stoppable killing machine. Thats totaly fine for me serious.

And i dont hate ranged classes, i just dont enjoy playing them cause its so ridicules easy.

I dont like the damage change. This is and was Ok, just removing the extra damage in group play i agree with.Now blizzard nerfing content cause of SoftCore players who in my opinion just dont are allowed to argue in diablo3 at all. Improving drop chances is all i wanted. So i can gear up and dont have to buy shit on AH from ranged easy mode classes.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 19 2012 09:01 GMT
#12338
Ill gouge my eyes out if they increase drop rates. Its already way too much.
twitch.tv/medrea
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
June 19 2012 09:04 GMT
#12339
It drops much but just a Item level that wont help you in Act3&4.

I cleared Act 1&2 would say about 40 times each one and there was just no damn item I cauld take as an improvment. Even the once with perfect stat combination had been to low to even consider taking them.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
June 19 2012 09:07 GMT
#12340
Right thats why they are nerfing Inferno. So that you aren't pissed off you are getting shit in Act 1 that wont help you for Act 2. That was the whole problem.
twitch.tv/medrea
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