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Papulatus
Profile Joined July 2010
United States669 Posts
May 23 2012 23:44 GMT
#9761
Annnnnndd the nightly lag has begun. This is beggining to get really really fucking stupid. I paid for this fucking game and I can't play it in the afternoon. I've already lost a HC level 55 monk and I almost just lost a level 40 DH HC because of this lag. God damn...
4 Corners in a day.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
May 23 2012 23:47 GMT
#9762
On May 24 2012 08:41 UniversalSnip wrote:
psst... I'll give you 40,000 gold for that. Upfront.

Believe me, you're not gonna get another offer like that.


tehehehehehe.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 23 2012 23:49 GMT
#9763
On May 24 2012 08:13 BurningSera wrote:
meanwhile, thank you the luck god <3

[image loading]

rough estimated price if i put it on AH?
at least 20mil?

may be my mf surely helps xD


That's not 20 mil at all O_O
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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
May 23 2012 23:51 GMT
#9764
On May 24 2012 08:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 08:13 BurningSera wrote:
meanwhile, thank you the luck god <3

[image loading]

rough estimated price if i put it on AH?
at least 20mil?

may be my mf surely helps xD


That's not 20 mil at all O_O


The massive str/dex make that better than 1200DPS or so weapons.

It's worth a ton.
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jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
May 23 2012 23:57 GMT
#9765
Anyone want to convince me to get this game? I have about 120 dollars left on a gift card, but lately I've just been hunting for deals instead of blowing it on big titles. I picked up Hinterland for 3 dollars (awesome city building / ARPG that you HAVE to play), the Stronghold Collection for 8 dollars, and I ordered Titan Quest Gold for 13 bucks.

I've been replaying Diablo 2, and I gotta say it just feels so different from D3. I wasn't too impressed with the linearity or the art direction. I'm not digging the online only thing too, especially since I keep hearing about people losing hardcore characters because of lag. About the art direction: it's hard for me to describe. It's like someone took all the hard edges of D2 and made them soft. Everything just looks gooey, even spell animations.

So, give me your best shot. Convince me, because I wanna like it. Fair warning though, it'll take quite a bit...
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
Mammel
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland189 Posts
May 23 2012 23:57 GMT
#9766
On May 24 2012 08:51 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 08:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:13 BurningSera wrote:
meanwhile, thank you the luck god <3

[image loading]

rough estimated price if i put it on AH?
at least 20mil?

may be my mf surely helps xD


That's not 20 mil at all O_O


The massive str/dex make that better than 1200DPS or so weapons.

It's worth a ton.

Afaik stats are already counted towards the DPS, though your WD so it doesn't show. Check it's DPS on dex class. And no, those stats aren't worth 300dps. I'd say it's around 10m, if you can find the buyer.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 23 2012 23:59 GMT
#9767
On May 24 2012 08:47 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 08:41 UniversalSnip wrote:
psst... I'll give you 40,000 gold for that. Upfront.

Believe me, you're not gonna get another offer like that.


tehehehehehe.

Where did this drop?
You can put it up for 20 but the chance to sell it is slim. I'd say 8~12 millons if you want to sell right away. Since there are a few weapon with similar stats on the AH all at about 10 mils, but yours got Str and attack speed.
Terran
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 00:01:58
May 24 2012 00:00 GMT
#9768
On May 24 2012 08:57 Mammel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 08:51 Kurr wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:13 BurningSera wrote:
meanwhile, thank you the luck god <3

[image loading]

rough estimated price if i put it on AH?
at least 20mil?

may be my mf surely helps xD


That's not 20 mil at all O_O


The massive str/dex make that better than 1200DPS or so weapons.

It's worth a ton.

Afaik stats are already counted towards the DPS, though your WD so it doesn't show. Check it's DPS on dex class. And no, those stats aren't worth 300dps. I'd say it's around 10m, if you can find the buyer.


It's also 1 handed.. the highest 1 handed item on ah i can see right now is like 980 dps.. so that makes this a very very valuable buy if your looking to use a shield or offhand. I don't play those classes but I would say this is freaking sweet item., I would say it's worth 10 mil as well but I'm really bad at judging prices, I have no clue what to sell things for on the AH 0.o. I just sell really really low so that they sell constantly and then just dump more things into it.
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Mammel
Profile Joined November 2010
Finland189 Posts
May 24 2012 00:05 GMT
#9769
On May 24 2012 09:00 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 08:57 Mammel wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:51 Kurr wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:13 BurningSera wrote:
meanwhile, thank you the luck god <3

[image loading]

rough estimated price if i put it on AH?
at least 20mil?

may be my mf surely helps xD


That's not 20 mil at all O_O


The massive str/dex make that better than 1200DPS or so weapons.

It's worth a ton.

Afaik stats are already counted towards the DPS, though your WD so it doesn't show. Check it's DPS on dex class. And no, those stats aren't worth 300dps. I'd say it's around 10m, if you can find the buyer.


It's also 1 handed.. the highest 1 handed item on ah i can see right now is like 980 dps.. so that makes this a very very valuable buy if your looking to use a shield or offhand. I don't play those classes but I would say this is freaking sweet item., I would say it's worth 10 mil as well but I'm really bad at judging prices, I have no clue what to sell things for on the AH 0.o. I just sell really really low so that they sell constantly and then just dump more things into it.

Well at EU 1154 no stat 1h=11m which is overpriced as I've seen +1200 for the same price, roughly equivalent 1h with 10 worse dps and 20 worse dex is 7,2. however that thing also has +crit dmg which is insane.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
May 24 2012 00:05 GMT
#9770
I've been thinking and Diablo 3 has room for so many basic improvements :

1) The ability to choose armor skins. You pretty much always pick the best available item, obviously. They made 17 armor sets for every class, but you pretty much can't wear a complete armor set at any time because of the way the game is designed, unless you go out of your way to only use items that match. Guild Wars 2 has a system that allows you to transfer stats from one item to another. Diablo 3 should use a similar system.

2). The auction house. This is a topic on it's own, but it definitely could be improved in many ways. Numbers of listing, different ways to list items, etc.

3) The ability to save/load builds. This is implemented in Guild Wars, a 7 year old game. If you make a game that requires constant skill switching, help players out with usability.

4) Offline play, LAN, better security, etc etc. Well, it has to be said at least once.

5) Adjusted drop rates for legendaries, sets and blacksmith plans. I have gotten 1 legendary in about 70 hours of play time. That's it. Also, their stats are too low if they're going to be that rare.

6) Making the defensive skills different in general. Why? Because when they work blizzard destroys them. I'm not going to use Smokescreen anymore when it's a 1 second ability for half my discipline... Just give me another skill entirely if you're going to make it useless.

7) The ability to hit invisible enemies with AoE. They are invulnerable. They are called invisible, not invincible. It's very annoying when you know you're being surrounded as a ranged character but you NEED to let them do so, otherwise you can't hit them. I don't mind when it's enemies that burrow, but enemies that are invisible...really?
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zJayy962
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1363 Posts
May 24 2012 00:10 GMT
#9771
On May 24 2012 08:57 Mammel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 08:51 Kurr wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:13 BurningSera wrote:
meanwhile, thank you the luck god <3

[image loading]

rough estimated price if i put it on AH?
at least 20mil?

may be my mf surely helps xD


That's not 20 mil at all O_O


The massive str/dex make that better than 1200DPS or so weapons.

It's worth a ton.

Afaik stats are already counted towards the DPS, though your WD so it doesn't show. Check it's DPS on dex class. And no, those stats aren't worth 300dps. I'd say it's around 10m, if you can find the buyer.


Any source that stats are counted towards the dps of a weapon? Thats weird
Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
May 24 2012 00:13 GMT
#9772
On May 24 2012 09:10 zJayy962 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 08:57 Mammel wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:51 Kurr wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:49 Torte de Lini wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:13 BurningSera wrote:
meanwhile, thank you the luck god <3

[image loading]

rough estimated price if i put it on AH?
at least 20mil?

may be my mf surely helps xD


That's not 20 mil at all O_O


The massive str/dex make that better than 1200DPS or so weapons.

It's worth a ton.

Afaik stats are already counted towards the DPS, though your WD so it doesn't show. Check it's DPS on dex class. And no, those stats aren't worth 300dps. I'd say it's around 10m, if you can find the buyer.


Any source that stats are counted towards the dps of a weapon? Thats weird


Yeah that doesn't sound right...

I've picked up weapons with less DPS but when I hover over them, they increase my damage because of increased attack speed or something similar. I think...
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
May 24 2012 00:29 GMT
#9773
The stats on the actual weapon shouldn't factor into the DPS, so that's 9xx dps without considering the extra bonuses applied. Even so, you could probably get ~11 - 13 million I would think, 20 million is really, really high and even if it was worth it, I don't see there being much people with the ability to buy it.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 00:38:04
May 24 2012 00:36 GMT
#9774
On May 24 2012 08:59 Caphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2012 08:47 BurningSera wrote:
On May 24 2012 08:41 UniversalSnip wrote:
psst... I'll give you 40,000 gold for that. Upfront.

Believe me, you're not gonna get another offer like that.


tehehehehehe.

Where did this drop?
You can put it up for 20 but the chance to sell it is slim. I'd say 8~12 millons if you want to sell right away. Since there are a few weapon with similar stats on the AH all at about 10 mils, but yours got Str and attack speed.


just kidding guys i am not gonna sell it <3 my second char monk may use it one day (if i have the time get her that far). for an average player like me (not too casual or anywhere close to hardcore), that drop made the game for me. i remember how some gold name weapon dropped back in my d2 game, great time.

i got it from killing some elite mobs after the izual battle. the drops in act4 are pretty shit tbh but damn when you see a yellow you really hit a jackpot!

edit: and yes d3 auto added the attack speed/damage % to the total dps when you compare it to your current gear.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 24 2012 00:39 GMT
#9775
On May 24 2012 09:29 Salv wrote:
The stats on the actual weapon shouldn't factor into the DPS, so that's 9xx dps without considering the extra bonuses applied. Even so, you could probably get ~11 - 13 million I would think, 20 million is really, really high and even if it was worth it, I don't see there being much people with the ability to buy it.

stuff like ias definitely factors in because it changes the 'attacks per second' on the weapon itself. Pretty sure attribute boosts, however, do not.
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 00:52:39
May 24 2012 00:51 GMT
#9776
On May 24 2012 08:13 BurningSera wrote:
meanwhile, thank you the luck god <3

[image loading]

rough estimated price if i put it on AH?
at least 20mil?

may be my mf surely helps xD


It has no life on hit, no socket, and no vitality, so it's worth ~5-7 million, not 10+.
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
May 24 2012 00:56 GMT
#9777
I heard lifesteal has 80% reduced effect in inferno... is that true of life on hit as well, I wonder? That seems quite harsh considering how low they've kept the values.

Makes me wonder what other mechanic changes inferno makes.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 01:10:55
May 24 2012 00:57 GMT
#9778
I sold one like it but 1.1k dps and a ton of vit for 13mil a few days ago, would put this closer to 6-7mil now.

Afaik the stats on an item are counted in the dps displayed.


On May 24 2012 09:56 UniversalSnip wrote:
I heard lifesteal has 80% reduced effect in inferno... is that true of life on hit as well, I wonder? That seems quite harsh considering how low they've kept the values.

Makes me wonder what other mechanic changes inferno makes.


yes each difficulty life steal takes a 20% hit, making it effectively the most useless stat after bonus XP on a lvl 60 item.



Side note: I'm getting a 31024 error (Cannot get your payment info) when I try to go to the AH
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
javy_
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1677 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-24 01:51:43
May 24 2012 01:33 GMT
#9779
On May 24 2012 09:56 UniversalSnip wrote:
I heard lifesteal has 80% reduced effect in inferno... is that true of life on hit as well, I wonder? That seems quite harsh considering how low they've kept the values.

Makes me wonder what other mechanic changes inferno makes.


I've seen some testing done to show that lifesteal goes down substantially on either reddit or the blizz d3 forums but I haven't seen anything about life on hit. If it does get reduced then it's useless but Kripp has been saying the past few days that one of the best stats for weapons is life on hit (500-700+ per hit is good for barbs).

edit: watching Kripp now (act 2 inferno), he gets about 900-1k health on each hit (847 from his weapon and 70 from his belt and then a little from somewhere else), so I'm 99% sure health on hit does not get reduced in inferno.
♪~( ̄。 ̄)
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
May 24 2012 01:40 GMT
#9780
As far as I can tell, the only stats on the weapon that get counted in the auction menu are the stats actually on the weapon, not including dex/str/int. I say this because A: the auction menu doesn't account for character specific stats, (check this by looking at DPS on a weapon you're holding, then look at it in the AH menu.) and B: the other stats will be a steady gain, whereas str/dex/int are, as far as I can tell, the last modifier to DPS, meaning they come in as part of a larger whole, and would require character specific stats to calculate.

I'm probably explaining this shitty. Can someone translate from fucking tired and braindead to what's actually running through my head?
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