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Vadrigar
Profile Joined January 2011
Bulgaria2379 Posts
May 17 2012 13:33 GMT
#8481
On May 17 2012 22:21 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 22:14 JingleHell wrote:
I think the bizarre AH may actually be an effort to help the smaller guy some. Cuts down on psychotic undercut sniping.

Either that or Blizz had some pointy haired types straight out of Dilbert working on the D3 launch. (This has my vote. "Servers are getting crushed during NA peak hours? No problem, restart them all, THAT will fix the latency!")

EU servers are no better really, its refreshing my memory of WoW. Prime time = expect +200-300 latency and occasional 1k ms spike. Just for the clearance when i played at 3-4 am i got 90ms....

And lag spikes ARE noticeable, still can be a threat to HC chars.


Last night I played at 3am and even then got quite frequent lag spikes. In single player! That's some retarded netcoding... My net is crazy good and I've never had lag in any other games. Dota 2 for example I get 50ms, while Diablo 3 gets 80ms at best!
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
May 17 2012 13:45 GMT
#8482
Is it just me or does melee seem way stronger than ranged ? Im act4 nm currently and 8 of 10 games I join a dh or wiz sits there waiting for a melee to tank. I should have rolled a monk. The evade mantra seems way way too strong.

World of meleecraft I guess ...
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 13:57:57
May 17 2012 13:49 GMT
#8483
On May 17 2012 22:45 Kenpark wrote:
Is it just me or does melee seem way stronger than ranged ? Im act4 nm currently and 8 of 10 games I join a dh or wiz sits there waiting for a melee to tank. I should have rolled a monk. The evade mantra seems way way too strong.

World of meleecraft I guess ...

You just join them because game is designed that way. What would be the fun of 4 barbarians trololololo smashing stuff.
But as a DH I must admit that coop with barb is super easy. He just tanks stuff and I dps, games goes 3times faster, I've played Act 1 and 2 on NM, equaly long solo as with group and it's much much faster and easier in co-op
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
May 17 2012 13:54 GMT
#8484
Melee is not overpowered.

Wait till you fight mobs where Melee just gets to run away the entire time.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#8485
Game hates melee, all I can say.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
May 17 2012 14:00 GMT
#8486
Melee is not overpowered.

Wait till you fight mobs where Melee just gets to run away the entire time.


Dunno about that. The monk I just played with had only 8k hp in act 4 nm oO. I have 15k and cant tank a mob for 3 secs when Im soloing. The monk told me he has about 80% dodge so he could tank MASSES of mobs with his 8k.

Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
May 17 2012 14:09 GMT
#8487
If you watch hell/inferno streams, you'll notice that the tables are turned. Even though the ranged characters get 1-2 shotted by mobs, the melee characters are in a horizontal position 3-4 times more frequently than the ranged characters. Then, you have to take into account the time spent running away doing 0 damage, while ranged characters are still able to stutter step.

Try fighting extra health fire chains jailer electrified elite mobs.
=Þ
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-17 14:12:18
May 17 2012 14:12 GMT
#8488
Did they explain in game why + Show Spoiler +
the Butcher and Izual are revived?
If they did I missed it.
ZappaSC
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark215 Posts
May 17 2012 14:13 GMT
#8489
On May 17 2012 23:09 Heh_ wrote:


Try fighting extra health fire chains jailer electrified elite mobs.


Oh god the horror!
Heh_
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Singapore2712 Posts
May 17 2012 14:17 GMT
#8490
On May 17 2012 23:13 ZappaSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 23:09 Heh_ wrote:


Try fighting extra health fire chains jailer electrified elite mobs.


Oh god the horror!

I was watching an inferno stream. Monk barb wizard party. They encountered an elite pack of zombies (not some uber mob, but just zombies) which had abilities similar to what I posted. I think it was extra health fire chains frozen and something else. They spent like 20-30 minutes clearing those after dying countless times. The melee characters kept getting their asses kicked so bad.
=Þ
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 17 2012 14:22 GMT
#8491
On May 17 2012 23:12 Sandster wrote:
Did they explain in game why + Show Spoiler +
the Butcher and Izual are revived?
If they did I missed it.


Fanfare. There's no cogent explanation.
Remember Violet.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
May 17 2012 14:26 GMT
#8492
On May 17 2012 23:12 Sandster wrote:
Did they explain in game why + Show Spoiler +
the Butcher and Izual are revived?
If they did I missed it.

+ Show Spoiler +
I got a bit of lore that said that there were a bunch of Butcher demons in hell after I killed him. Something about they get created by other demons sewing together yet more demons to combine their powers. So I assume its just a fresh butcher for us to kill.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Mastermyth
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands207 Posts
May 17 2012 14:34 GMT
#8493
On May 17 2012 23:09 Heh_ wrote:
If you watch hell/inferno streams, you'll notice that the tables are turned. Even though the ranged characters get 1-2 shotted by mobs, the melee characters are in a horizontal position 3-4 times more frequently than the ranged characters. Then, you have to take into account the time spent running away doing 0 damage, while ranged characters are still able to stutter step.

Try fighting extra health fire chains jailer electrified elite mobs.


I'm clearing Hell A2 with my DH buddy atm. I'm often standing in the thick of things, with just small stutterstep kiting or dodging arcane/freeze when necessary. Stomp/Revenge/Warcry lets me stay in there for ages. About half the packs I can just stand still.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
May 17 2012 14:38 GMT
#8494
i dont feel like my DH is weak.

sure, i have to kite, but you need like 60 APM to do it without losing too much dps.
And when i get a tank in my group, its even better, i can just stand there and do all my damage potential.
I dont know what passives other classes have, but i get +50% damage from them.
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
May 17 2012 14:41 GMT
#8495
Everyone seems to hit a brick wall in Act 2 on nightmare, anyone made it past Act 2 on nightmare?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
May 17 2012 14:42 GMT
#8496
Act 2 nightmare is so easy... lol
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
May 17 2012 14:47 GMT
#8497
On May 17 2012 23:42 skyR wrote:
Act 2 nightmare is so easy... lol


uh, dunno really the different modes, just been watching streams. Maybe it was inferno act 2?
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
May 17 2012 14:49 GMT
#8498
On May 17 2012 23:41 mycro wrote:
Everyone seems to hit a brick wall in Act 2 on nightmare, anyone made it past Act 2 on nightmare?

Currently on it right now. Really easy. Bosses are the easiest, elite mobs are hardest due to my lack of resistances
Power of Ze
mycro
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1579 Posts
May 17 2012 14:51 GMT
#8499
On May 17 2012 23:49 Elegance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 17 2012 23:41 mycro wrote:
Everyone seems to hit a brick wall in Act 2 on nightmare, anyone made it past Act 2 on nightmare?

Currently on it right now. Really easy. Bosses are the easiest, elite mobs are hardest due to my lack of resistances


I meant inferno >_<
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
May 17 2012 14:52 GMT
#8500
On May 17 2012 23:38 LaNague wrote:
i dont feel like my DH is weak.

sure, i have to kite, but you need like 60 APM to do it without losing too much dps.
And when i get a tank in my group, its even better, i can just stand there and do all my damage potential.
I dont know what passives other classes have, but i get +50% damage from them.


On release day, I got 5 hours of sleep over 2 days prior, and didn't know Hungering Arrow was homing. Using dual crossbows and stutter step microing for a whole day on that little sleep was...well, I'm glad i found out it's homing.
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