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Grettin
42416 Posts
On August 13 2011 01:12 Bibdy wrote: Blizzard really needs to provide me with a way to play the game while I'm on the toilet, or I won't be purchasing their game. Wlan + Laptop = profit?? | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
No, Blizzard needs to implement it for me because I'm too afraid that if I purchase the game I'll be too addicted not to kill myself if my internet goes out. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17846 Posts
Why won't they just allow for "offline-mode" like with Steam games? You just don't get the achievements but you can play the game without Internet (no updates though). | ||
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IreScath
Canada521 Posts
On August 13 2011 01:22 Manit0u wrote: Why won't they just allow for "offline-mode" like with Steam games? You just don't get the achievements but you can play the game without Internet (no updates though). They stated that not everything will be done on teh client side. Things like drops, combat calculations, etc, will be done on the server | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
On August 13 2011 01:12 Bibdy wrote: Blizzard really needs to provide me with a way to play the game while I'm on the toilet, or I won't be purchasing their game. And a wireless router. You can rent one off your service provider for like five bucks a month. You can buy one for 60 dollars too. You can buy the best one available for twice that. Just do it, everyone else is doing it  | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On August 13 2011 01:22 Manit0u wrote: Why won't they just allow for "offline-mode" like with Steam games? You just don't get the achievements but you can play the game without Internet (no updates though). So you can take your loveable single-player character online without having to start a new one; one of the most common reasons that people that don't take part in the multiplayer component of the game. If that doesn't include you, well, bummer. I'm afraid there's customers with slightly more realistic concerns than not being able to play while on a flight | ||
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NotJack
United States737 Posts
On August 13 2011 01:22 Manit0u wrote: Why won't they just allow for "offline-mode" like with Steam games? You just don't get the achievements but you can play the game without Internet (no updates though). This has been answered more times than any other question in this thread. | ||
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ROOTslush
Canada170 Posts
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jimmyjingle
United States472 Posts
the fact is blizzard is withholding the most basic functionality of video games in place of a fail-prone and less desirable system. there are good reasons behind this decision, but please don't (its completely pointless...) spout bigotry against a mode of play that does not affect your own. | ||
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Inex
Bulgaria443 Posts
On August 13 2011 02:40 jimmyjingle wrote: jeez, so many people missing a single point and beating this topic to death. go ahead and defend blizzards decision, but don't tell people who want a certain functionality that their opinions and wants are invalid. the fact is blizzard is withholding the most basic functionality of video games in place of a fail-prone and less desirable system. there are good reasons behind this decision, but please don't (its completely pointless...) spout bigotry against a mode of play that does not affect your own. The only time I don't have internet is when the router is dead or there are some connection issues. I don't see how having to be constantly online will ruin the experience for you. Too much drama for something nobody will care when the game is out. We are in 2011, where PCs and laptops are constantly online. Almost every house here has a wireless router, a lot of households have laptops, what is the big deal I will never understand. Just ask Blizz for invisible mode and you might not even notice that the game requires constant internet connection. Grow up please. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
On August 13 2011 02:57 Inex wrote: The only time I don't have internet is when the router is dead or there are some connection issues. I don't see how having to be constantly online will ruin the experience for you. Too much drama for something nobody will care when the game is out. We are in 2011, where PCs and laptops are constantly online. Almost every house here has a wireless router, a lot of households have laptops, what is the big deal I will never understand. Just ask Blizz for invisible mode and you might not even notice that the game requires constant internet connection. Grow up please. My igloo says otherwise + Show Spoiler + http://tinyurl.com/igloosayingotherwise | ||
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Powerpill
United States1693 Posts
On August 13 2011 02:57 Inex wrote: The only time I don't have internet is when the router is dead or there are some connection issues. I don't see how having to be constantly online will ruin the experience for you. Too much drama for something nobody will care when the game is out. We are in 2011, where PCs and laptops are constantly online. Almost every house here has a wireless router, a lot of households have laptops, what is the big deal I will never understand. Just ask Blizz for invisible mode and you might not even notice that the game requires constant internet connection. Grow up please. Well, there are these mythical places called "rural areas"... and pretty much the only option they have are 4g sticks, which are usually capped at 10gb a month or something terrible. I guess they are S.O.L. | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On August 13 2011 02:40 jimmyjingle wrote: jeez, so many people missing a single point and beating this topic to death. go ahead and defend blizzards decision, but don't tell people who want a certain functionality that their opinions and wants are invalid. the fact is blizzard is withholding the most basic functionality of video games in place of a fail-prone and less desirable system. there are good reasons behind this decision, but please don't (its completely pointless...) spout bigotry against a mode of play that does not affect your own. Unfortunately for you, there's more benefit in getting people that typically play singleplayer and ignore the multiplayer because they don't want to have to reroll, INTO the multiplayer, than there is in giving a few people an offline mode because they've managed to be wealthy enough to afford the money, time and energy on a modern PC game, but don't trust their internet connection, or travel a lot. I'm sure they understand the complaint, because it's a dead horse that's been beaten to absolute death by now. Sadly, its something you're going to have to deal with, either by getting a more stable internet connection, or just avoiding games like this, entirely. This is going to be the modern direction of video games, so don't expect too many big release titles to cater to the demands of a dwindling few over the next decade. 'Back in my day' we didn't blame Epic for releasing Unreal Tournament and not capping people's pings to be no less than 500. If someone had a shitty internet connection (HPBs as we called them), that was their own problem. | ||
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ikona
Poland47 Posts
On August 13 2011 01:22 Manit0u wrote: Why won't they just allow for "offline-mode" like with Steam games? You just don't get the achievements but you can play the game without Internet (no updates though). Because basically you could duplicate items and cheat in various ways offline. Those modes would have to be absolutely separated and require additional development time and resources. And realistically in the end almost nobody would play offline anyway (with all the restrictions). | ||
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TheGlassface
United States612 Posts
On August 13 2011 03:03 Puph wrote: My igloo says otherwise + Show Spoiler + http://tinyurl.com/igloosayingotherwise !) What about data caps? With recent legislative and pricing changes, this could quickly become an issue for anyone with AT&T or the myriad of other ISPs swapping to this new format? 2) It removes mods, just to combat piracy. PC gamers love mods, it's the bread and butter of some of the greatest games released. Hell, some games that become insanely popular started off as mods. 3) One of the greatest things about both Diablos was the ability to just dick around and kill time as you pleased, whenever you pleased. You may tout about everyone being online, how every house has routers and so on but the facts is that's an assumption. A good deal of people enjoy being able to access the property they purchased at any time and this measure to combat piracy is both tired and surprisingly tolerated. 4) Saying grow up for wanting a basic function of a game is ridiculous. So...nuh uhh, youuuu grow up. Fatty. | ||
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Inex
Bulgaria443 Posts
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TheGlassface
United States612 Posts
On August 13 2011 03:20 ikona wrote: Because basically you could duplicate items and cheat in various ways offline. Those modes would have to be absolutely separated and require additional development time and resources. And realistically in the end almost nobody would play offline anyway (with all the restrictions). They had singleplayer and multiplayer for years in almost every game known to man. How in the world is this any different? Also, considering how many mods were available for D2 and how widely they were played...umm...realistically, in the end...a LOT of people would and DID play offline. | ||
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TheGlassface
United States612 Posts
On August 13 2011 03:22 Inex wrote: Well you'll play something else. I don't see how some of you can be against the company that makes your favourite games. After all they are currently only on the PC market and we all know that piracy is a big problem for PC game developers. Let's show some support and be glad we have one solid game company that always delivers great quality for our PCs/notebooks. Small things like this can be a nuisance, sometimes, but if that's the price that I have to pay to get great PC games in the future, than I would gladly pay it. I absolutely can not stand this argument. Oh, don't like it? Too bad! Play something else or you'll play anyway! As a fan of the company, I'm allowed to dislike content. I'm allowed to have expectations and I'm allowed to be disappointed. Just like I was with SCII, just like I was with WotLK and Cata and so on... The piracy problem is debatable. There are numerous studies to show that it's less of an issue than the used games market. | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On August 13 2011 03:22 TheGlassface wrote: They had singleplayer and multiplayer for years in almost every game known to man. How in the world is this any different? Also, considering how many mods were available for D2 and how widely they were played...umm...realistically, in the end...a LOT of people would and DID play offline. Maybe it's time to stop playing alone and give the multiplayer a chance? They've been putting a lot of effort in their recent games to get people out of that rut. Multiplayer is a metric fuckton more fun than singleplayer. I played the Warcraft 3 campaign a total of twice. I played multiplayer for years. Nevermind comparing the time spent playing every single player RPG/action-RPG ever made, vs the time I've put into WoW. | ||
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TheGlassface
United States612 Posts
On August 13 2011 03:24 Bibdy wrote: Maybe it's time to stop playing alone and give the multiplayer a chance? They've been putting a lot of effort in their recent games to get people out of that rut. Multiplayer is a metric fuckton more fun than singleplayer. I played the Warcraft 3 campaign a total of twice. I played multiplayer for years. Nevermind comparing the time spent playing every single player RPG/action-RPG ever made, vs the time I've put into WoW. debatable and opinionssss I played WCIII multiplayer for a shorter while than I did the campaign. I played more single player RPG hours than I did WoW. So, now that we're on opposite ends of the spectrum and since I've given multiplayer a shot compared to playing alone...do I get to still make points or am I totally oblivious to the world? There's no "rut," if people want to play a game on it's own. Some people played games for the storyline, which I'd argue has diminished inside MMOs (D3 is essentially an MMO) Some people don't want to have to engage in social politics (WoW) just to enjoy a game. Some people don't want these changes and it's being force fed into games to combat an issue that's perceived as much larger a threat than it is. It's just silly to act like people who want to play singleplayer never played or enjoyed multiplayer. I liked the multiplayer aspect of D2, I also really enjoyed being able to just go solo and see the games sights, sounds, etc. on my time. So, it's still boiling down to my opinion vs yours and the end result is mine is being squelched for technical/profit reasons. | ||
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