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TheArtOfFugue
Canada187 Posts
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DrBoo
Canada1177 Posts
On August 12 2011 01:54 papyrus wrote: the time between today and the release of diablo 3 is agonizing. If I could just sleep and wake up to the day diablo 3 is released. You should go into the mountains and bury your self in snow so you freeze then get someone (not named butters) to come up and unfreeze you. | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
On August 12 2011 01:54 papyrus wrote: Were you around for the Starcraft 2 beta wait? the time between today and the release of diablo 3 is agonizing. If I could just sleep and wake up to the day diablo 3 is released.  If Diablo 3 followed the SC2 timeline beta wouldn't start until 2012! | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
On August 12 2011 01:57 TheArtOfFugue wrote: The Diablo III brainwash thread..... sigh. I'm tired of reading the same nonsensical fucking whining about the RMAH. Been hitting this thread for a week for some beta-related news and end up reading this crap...ALL of it too I havent read the last 50 or so pages. I agree whole heartedly. The RMAH debate should end. It's just one of those things you will have to wait and see how it turns out. Unlike other companies Blizzard is giving us the option of getting something out of it, even if we dont spend money. Lets see what happens and get back to general D3 discussion | ||
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Mephiztopheles1
1124 Posts
On August 12 2011 01:41 InsidiA wrote: If i'm being completely honest i think the Auction House will ruin the game. Soon enough will have players spending 30+ dollars on items and just dominating the game simply because of them throwing more money into the game. I feel it's a horrible idea and i think it'd only work if they took out the usage of actual money and only made it a sort of online auction using in game money. What do you guys think about the Auction House? So, you haven't played D2, have you? In-game money has and will always be too easy too acquire in large amounts, really rare items aren't. A gold AH can only work up to certain items and levels, but there's no amount of gold that would get you a fools +IAS 350%ID phase blade, there just isn't. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
On August 12 2011 01:52 Bibdy wrote: I really don't know what to say. The idea that balance can even be achieved is so far beyond the scope of my imagination. They have an impossible time balancing WoW Arena with strict sets of gear and a variety of abilities and classes. How does one look at D3's smorgasbord of items, classes, skills and rune system and imagine that balance, fairness, and all of those things the competitive community adores, can actually be achieved? The best you're going to get is a matchmaking system based on your gear level. It's up to YOU GUYS to turn it into a competitive PvP game like you've done with D2. Blizzard didn't try to balance PvP there, ever, yet it still happened. It's up to you guys to make it. Honestly, you're just going to be wasting your time, energy and what shred of patience you have left waiting for Blizzard to do it for you. Rest assured that it was complete sarcasm. The vast majority of the people taking part in PvP for the first few years (at a wild guess) will merely do so casually, as is intended for the system. OK sorry if I came out as bashing you What I was trying to say is additions to PvP will come out eventually, not to mention everyone starts off a level 0 with virtually no idea how to truly make a PvP build due to lack of public knowledge. Everything will have to be deduced when it comes to what pwns in PvP and it might even take a long time for that to happen. IMO it has a lot of potential, especially if blizzard actually finds a way for each Character Class to be viable in PvP combat. That would be the most reasonable form of balance we can achieve in that aspectEDIT On August 12 2011 02:54 Mephiztopheles1 wrote: So, you haven't played D2, have you? In-game money has and will always be too easy too acquire in large amounts, really rare items aren't. A gold AH can only work up to certain items and levels, but there's no amount of gold that would get you a fools +IAS 350%ID phase blade, there just isn't. I believe otherwise. What if someone just found a +IAS 350%ID phase blade of Metronomic Doom (which he perhaps cannot use) and has no interest in the RMAH. He can theoretically sell his blade for a riciculous sum of gold and it is up to whoever is interested to supply his demand. Get it?  | ||
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Tsagacity
United States2124 Posts
So, you haven't played D2, have you? How does D2's gold status mean ANYTHING to D3's gold status. Gold in D2 was broken and worthless. In-game money has and will always be too easy too acquire in large amounts It's NOT hard to make gold worth something in game. If Blizzard has learned anything in ten years about gold-sinks and how to create valuable items for gold, the D3 economy will be a lot better. The crafting system already seems like it should present plenty of opportunity. If you can exchange enough gold for valuable top-tier items, it has value. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
LoL is a pretty unbalanced game, but that doesn't stop people from having fun with it. | ||
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eVolvE342
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
I expect there will be a lot of people unwittingly throwing things up on the AH for exorbitantly high and low prices, much like what happens in WoW. People that play the AH game will spot these low-price opportunities, snipe the item and make cash profit. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
On August 12 2011 03:28 eVolvE342 wrote: ahhh we need some beta/ release date info... this talk of the AH is getting really old and boring... bring me the game now! Have patience, young padawan. Not patients. I am revoking your light saber, soz On August 12 2011 03:34 Bibdy wrote: The two currencies will be interlinked. If I could grab a crazy blade of death from the GAH (Gold AH) for 100,000g and throw it up on the RMAH for $10, then the exchange rate is 10,000g/$1. This will naturally inflate over time as more gold enters the system and deflate as people spend that gold on things like crafting. Exchanging GAH items for RMAH money will happen a lot, though. People will look at the GAH and compare it to the real value of in-game gold and see if its worth purchasing the item with in-game money to sell it off for real money. I expect there will be a lot of people unwittingly throwing things up on the AH for exorbitantly high and low prices, much like what happens in WoW. People that play the AH game will spot these low-price opportunities, snipe the item and make cash profit. I am not sure if that would be viable with the 3 blizzard fees. I mean, you would have to know exactly how much they take from you on each level of taxation and then what.. you come out 1 dollar ahead? lol the system seems bullet proof | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On August 12 2011 03:36 Puph wrote: Have patience, young padawan. Not patients. I am revoking your light saber, soz I am not sure if that would be viable with the 3 blizzard fees. I mean, you would have to know exactly how much they take from you on each level of taxation and then what.. you come out 1 dollar ahead? lol the system seems bullet proof Well, yes, you'd have to take into account the different fees, but at the end of the day, it's just a high-school level of math to work out if and how much profit you could make by grabbing an item off the GAH, and throwing it on the RMAH. And vice versa, of course. If there are tons of awesome swords on the RMAH for $1 a pop, but none of them on the GAH, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that you could invest just $1 (plus fees) to make an absolute shitton of in-game gold, that you could then use to make GAH->RMAH purchases (the ones described above). In the end, if you have in-depth knowledge of what people do and don't desire in the game, you can put it to good use and take part in gold/cash/item trading all day. | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
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Firewood
Sweden49 Posts
http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/events/gamescom2011-activities.html Bottom of the page | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
On August 12 2011 04:02 Firewood wrote: "As a side note, any rumors you may have heard about a gate to Diablo’s Burning Hells opening in Cologne are completely unfounded. Seriously, nothing is happening at Rudolfplatz from the evening of August 16 — especially nothing to do with demonic invasions." http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/events/gamescom2011-activities.html Bottom of the page I'm not sure what you're trying to state here. Clearly nothing is happening there. This isn't news. | ||
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Firewood
Sweden49 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
Yea i get the yadayada about how superior it is to play with a keyboard because of the hotkeys and such but again,I don't see why this wouldn't be an option. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On August 12 2011 01:57 TheArtOfFugue wrote: The Diablo III brainwash thread..... sigh. I'm tired of reading the same nonsensical fucking whining about the RMAH. Been hitting this thread for a week for some beta-related news and end up reading this crap...ALL of it too The RMAH bothers me a little bit but it's not a huge deal for me. What REALLY bothers me is that attributes and skill points have essentially been removed. Blizzard goes on and on about loot being the biggest incentive to play. Well, for me, building up my character however I wanted was just as big a part as loot. How Blizzard can take away these things without thinking how it will negatively effect the game in every way is beyond me. RMAH auction house? Slight bother Graphics that look pretty boring? (no, colourful doesn't bother me, but D2 spells look A LOT more awesome than what we've seen in D3 videos which remind me more of WC3 spells) Slight bother Restricting weapons to certain classes? Slight bother Making every character a carbon copy of each other because of the lack of attributes and the new skill system? Deal breaker. Overall, I simply don't understand why they feel the need to dumb down an already easy to play game. Diablo 2 is pretty much the definition of pick up and play. It's easy as hell on normal. Who cares if your first few characters won't be perfect and able to beat higher difficulties, that's what brings you back. That's not to say they haven't made any changes that I'm all for (runes, crafting, skill bar, seperate loot), but I'm astonished that people care at all about the RMAH when there are much much more serious problems with the core gameplay. | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On August 12 2011 04:35 Kurr wrote: The RMAH bothers me a little bit but it's not a huge deal for me. What REALLY bothers me is that attributes and skill points have essentially been removed. Blizzard goes on and on about loot being the biggest incentive to play. Well, for me, building up my character however I wanted was just as big a part as loot. How Blizzard can take away these things without thinking how it will negatively effect the game in every way is beyond me. RMAH auction house? Slight bother Graphics that look pretty boring? (no, colourful doesn't bother me, but D2 spells look A LOT more awesome than what we've seen in D3 videos which remind me more of WC3 spells) Slight bother Restricting weapons to certain classes? Slight bother Making every character a carbon copy of each other because of the lack of attributes and the new skill system? Deal breaker. Overall, I simply don't understand why they feel the need to dumb down an already easy to play game. Diablo 2 is pretty much the definition of pick up and play. It's easy as hell on normal. Who cares if your first few characters won't be perfect and able to beat higher difficulties, that's what brings you back. That's not to say they haven't made any changes that I'm all for (runes, crafting, skill bar, seperate loot), but I'm astonished that people care at all about the RMAH when there are much much more serious problems with the core gameplay. Diablo 3 is also being developed for console although can't really start screaming consolization until the finished version of the game is available to be played. | ||
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Puph
Canada635 Posts
On August 12 2011 03:42 Bibdy wrote: Well, yes, you'd have to take into account the different fees, but at the end of the day, it's just a high-school level of math to work out if and how much profit you could make by grabbing an item off the GAH, and throwing it on the RMAH. And vice versa, of course. If there are tons of awesome swords on the RMAH for $1 a pop, but none of them on the GAH, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that you could invest just $1 (plus fees) to make an absolute shitton of in-game gold, that you could then use to make GAH->RMAH purchases (the ones described above). In the end, if you have in-depth knowledge of what people do and don't desire in the game, you can put it to good use and take part in gold/cash/item trading all day. I was waiting to get logicpwned. Granted, you can make a few dollars per transaction and even pay for your next one. It just seems like extremely tedious business given that you are also dealing with an auction house, where other players have a say in how high the item will go for + Show Spoiler + Cologne? Portals opening? Meh. | ||
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