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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 10 2011 16:27 GMT
#4381
On August 11 2011 01:20 Belial88 wrote:
Wow that totalbiscuit video was fucking retarded. That guy....


Honestly, I couldn't force myself to listen a video he makes on RMAH. He's absolutely clueless about everything pretty much. At this point I am pretty sure he is just an elaborate troll.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
August 10 2011 16:39 GMT
#4382
I'm really surprised by how many people think that real money trading is okay, even after years of Blizzard stance against it.
Perseverance
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan2800 Posts
August 10 2011 16:49 GMT
#4383
real money trading was going to happen regardless, at least this way even the retarded players will be able to use this feature as well.
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showbiz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States66 Posts
August 10 2011 16:54 GMT
#4384
On August 11 2011 01:39 howerpower wrote:
I'm really surprised by how many people think that real money trading is okay, even after years of Blizzard stance against it.


You know why?

A) Most Blizzard fans hate change (i.e. all this mindless yearning to keep D2's broken stat/skill system)

B) Real money in videogames = Instant negative knee-jerk reaction

If the naysayers took a few minutes to actually think about the reasons behind the change, they'd realize it makes sense on all levels.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 16:55:52
August 10 2011 16:55 GMT
#4385
On August 11 2011 01:39 howerpower wrote:
I'm really surprised by how many people think that real money trading is okay, even after years of Blizzard stance against it.


It's the difference between an underground, black market and having everything out in the open, regulated and controlled. Anyone who supports the legalization of marijuana should be able to see the parallels.

It's not going to be damaging to the game at all. As for bots, they aren't just going to hurt people's confidence in the system, it's going to reduce Blizzard's revenue. Thus, Blizzard have a vested interest in maintaining fairness and honesty in the RMAH, and you've got to be completely paranoid to think that Blizzard are going to leave a bot to function beyond a single day of operation. People are just freaking out over ghosts and blind assumptions.
howerpower
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States619 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 16:58:33
August 10 2011 16:57 GMT
#4386
On August 11 2011 01:49 Perseverance wrote:
real money trading was going to happen regardless, at least this way even the retarded players will be able to use this feature as well.


of course it will happen, but by how many people? People assume that everyone just bought everything in Diablo II just b/c of the 100's of bots spamming in chat I guess? I've never once had the thought of "hey, maybe I could just buy a l33t weapon and wreck these npc's" and I assumed that it was a very small percentage of the community. Yes, it is true that I still will never have the urge to buy a weapon but I won't be able to escape the thought everytime an awesome item drops of "hmm, I better go check the auction house and see how much this weapon is worth" and in that regard it does impact my experience. It definitely rubs me the wrong way


On August 11 2011 01:55 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 01:39 howerpower wrote:
I'm really surprised by how many people think that real money trading is okay, even after years of Blizzard stance against it.


It's the difference between an underground, black market and having everything out in the open, regulated and controlled. Anyone who supports the legalization of marijuana should be able to see the parallels.

It's not going to be damaging to the game at all. As for bots, they aren't just going to hurt people's confidence in the system, it's going to reduce Blizzard's revenue. Thus, Blizzard have a vested interest in maintaining fairness and honesty in the RMAH, and you've got to be completely paranoid to think that Blizzard are going to leave a bot to function beyond a single day of operation. People are just freaking out over ghosts and blind assumptions.


maybe I just can't see it, but how will bots reduce blizzard's revenue?
zachMEISTER
Profile Joined December 2010
United States625 Posts
August 10 2011 16:58 GMT
#4387
@Belial88

I read every single word, and I agree 100%
psillypsybic!
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
August 10 2011 16:58 GMT
#4388
On August 11 2011 01:55 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 01:39 howerpower wrote:
I'm really surprised by how many people think that real money trading is okay, even after years of Blizzard stance against it.


It's the difference between an underground, black market and having everything out in the open, regulated and controlled. Anyone who supports the legalization of marijuana should be able to see the parallels.

It's not going to be damaging to the game at all. As for bots, they aren't just going to hurt people's confidence in the system, it's going to reduce Blizzard's revenue. Thus, Blizzard have a vested interest in maintaining fairness and honesty in the RMAH, and you've got to be completely paranoid to think that Blizzard are going to leave a bot to function beyond a single day of operation. People are just freaking out over ghosts and blind assumptions.


This is very true. A good post, 100 percent agree.
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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 10 2011 17:01 GMT
#4389
On August 11 2011 01:57 howerpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 01:49 Perseverance wrote:
real money trading was going to happen regardless, at least this way even the retarded players will be able to use this feature as well.

Yes, it is true that I still will never have the urge to buy a weapon but I won't be able to escape the thought everytime an awesome item drops of "hmm, I better go check the auction house and see how much this weapon is worth" and in that regard it does impact my experience. It definitely rubs me the wrong way




Sounds more like a personal self control issue then anything else.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 17:12:59
August 10 2011 17:11 GMT
#4390
On August 11 2011 01:55 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 01:39 howerpower wrote:
I'm really surprised by how many people think that real money trading is okay, even after years of Blizzard stance against it.


It's the difference between an underground, black market and having everything out in the open, regulated and controlled. Anyone who supports the legalization of marijuana should be able to see the parallels.


What? I never knew Marijuana could make me more powerful in the real world...
I can see how you can put the two together but the thing is buying items off the RMAH causes my character to become stronger and more powerful then yours just because I have more money they you.

I agree having it as a black market thing isn't good but it also limits the people who are going to do it and for the most part people get caught and banned for doing it. There might be the few people walking around with bought gear but for the most part its going to be legit people playing the game without advantage from having more money then another person. Sure some people can get all that good gear without paying but they actually have to spend a good amount of time in the game to actually get better and earn it.

I have a fulltime job and I could easily buy anything I wanted in Diablo 3 from the RMAH but I just don't like the idea of being able to buy my self towards being better. Its like saying in starcraft 2 I won't bother playing for more then 30minutes a day then just buy lessons everyday instead of actually playing longer. It will probably make you better then the average person who simply plays for a few hours a day instead of only a short amount of time.

Should dedication and time spent playing be eliminated by simply just paying your way to greatness instead of working hard at something to achieve it?
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
iNSiPiD1
Profile Joined May 2010
United States140 Posts
August 10 2011 17:18 GMT
#4391
On August 11 2011 01:20 Belial88 wrote:
Wow that totalbiscuit video was fucking retarded. That guy....

I guess he isn't aware that people had transactions and 'cheated with cash' D2 all day long. People still do that with Wow. I sold my toon for $480 on WoW on ebay, even after my listing was removed, and another $100 on a dedicated gold website (lvl 60 that had t.05 gear... but it was the day before BC).

And then there's sites like d2jsp, where you use 'forum gold' to trade, which you could also conveniently buy from the forum as well. Which is, gasp, money used to buy items. Although you COULD just use in-game resources to buy items.

The RMAH is just taking the model of D2jsp, the most successful blizzard trading site to ever exist. It's an amazing idea, most people will stick to using in-game resources, a select few will pay cash, but have a neglible effect on the community.

And modding did NOT keep d2 alive 'for ages'. That is so ridiculous, only little kids played on open.

And we obviously see how SC2 benefits from online only. It prevents hacks and bots from ruining the server, and keeps money in the pocket of Blizz, as it should. I had (actually still have) over 2,000 CD keys for D2 (only used it for bots). That translates to a LOT of lost money to blizz.

It's funny how much he hates on bots/hackers/dupes, and then cries about online-only.

Blizzard is not taking 'cuts' from the community. You don't HAVE to use the RMAH, it's only for the kids with rich parents or the adults who could care less about spending $5 on the most epic gear in the game. It's a small fee, that players have to pay just as if they were to use ebay or paypal.

Most retaded video ever. Just like a lot of what he says, why doesn't he just stick with wow.

User was temp banned for this post.


I agree with this. TotalBiscuit was speaking out of ignorance on several things. The biggest of which was him talking about Blizzard being complete morons for adding this system into D3 instead of WoW. One doesn't have to look far to find Blizzard comments specific to why they believe this system is better for D3 than WoW.

Also, he completely ignores the difference between selling power through a store like LoL (where the content is created and sold by Riot) and the RMAH in D3 (where the content is FOUND by the players).

I used to think TB had a reasonable opinion on things, but this video is making me question whether that's true in general or not.
"What is asserted without reason, may be denied without reason."
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 10 2011 17:22 GMT
#4392
On August 11 2011 02:18 iNSiPiD1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 01:20 Belial88 wrote:
Wow that totalbiscuit video was fucking retarded. That guy....

I guess he isn't aware that people had transactions and 'cheated with cash' D2 all day long. People still do that with Wow. I sold my toon for $480 on WoW on ebay, even after my listing was removed, and another $100 on a dedicated gold website (lvl 60 that had t.05 gear... but it was the day before BC).

And then there's sites like d2jsp, where you use 'forum gold' to trade, which you could also conveniently buy from the forum as well. Which is, gasp, money used to buy items. Although you COULD just use in-game resources to buy items.

The RMAH is just taking the model of D2jsp, the most successful blizzard trading site to ever exist. It's an amazing idea, most people will stick to using in-game resources, a select few will pay cash, but have a neglible effect on the community.

And modding did NOT keep d2 alive 'for ages'. That is so ridiculous, only little kids played on open.

And we obviously see how SC2 benefits from online only. It prevents hacks and bots from ruining the server, and keeps money in the pocket of Blizz, as it should. I had (actually still have) over 2,000 CD keys for D2 (only used it for bots). That translates to a LOT of lost money to blizz.

It's funny how much he hates on bots/hackers/dupes, and then cries about online-only.

Blizzard is not taking 'cuts' from the community. You don't HAVE to use the RMAH, it's only for the kids with rich parents or the adults who could care less about spending $5 on the most epic gear in the game. It's a small fee, that players have to pay just as if they were to use ebay or paypal.

Most retaded video ever. Just like a lot of what he says, why doesn't he just stick with wow.

User was temp banned for this post.


I agree with this. TotalBiscuit was speaking out of ignorance on several things. The biggest of which was him talking about Blizzard being complete morons for adding this system into D3 instead of WoW. One doesn't have to look far to find Blizzard comments specific to why they believe this system is better for D3 than WoW.

Also, he completely ignores the difference between selling power through a store like LoL (where the content is created and sold by Riot) and the RMAH in D3 (where the content is FOUND by the players).

I used to think TB had a reasonable opinion on things, but this video is making me question whether that's true in general or not.


You can buy power in LoL?
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
August 10 2011 17:25 GMT
#4393
On August 11 2011 01:57 howerpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 01:49 Perseverance wrote:
real money trading was going to happen regardless, at least this way even the retarded players will be able to use this feature as well.


of course it will happen, but by how many people? People assume that everyone just bought everything in Diablo II just b/c of the 100's of bots spamming in chat I guess? I've never once had the thought of "hey, maybe I could just buy a l33t weapon and wreck these npc's" and I assumed that it was a very small percentage of the community. Yes, it is true that I still will never have the urge to buy a weapon but I won't be able to escape the thought everytime an awesome item drops of "hmm, I better go check the auction house and see how much this weapon is worth" and in that regard it does impact my experience. It definitely rubs me the wrong way


Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 01:55 Bibdy wrote:
On August 11 2011 01:39 howerpower wrote:
I'm really surprised by how many people think that real money trading is okay, even after years of Blizzard stance against it.


It's the difference between an underground, black market and having everything out in the open, regulated and controlled. Anyone who supports the legalization of marijuana should be able to see the parallels.

It's not going to be damaging to the game at all. As for bots, they aren't just going to hurt people's confidence in the system, it's going to reduce Blizzard's revenue. Thus, Blizzard have a vested interest in maintaining fairness and honesty in the RMAH, and you've got to be completely paranoid to think that Blizzard are going to leave a bot to function beyond a single day of operation. People are just freaking out over ghosts and blind assumptions.


maybe I just can't see it, but how will bots reduce blizzard's revenue?


I dunno about you, but I sure as hell won't be partaking in the RMAH if its absolutely overrun with botted and duped items. It's in Blizzard's best interests to have a good customer experience, and if there's tons of cheating, duping and botting going on, they're going to lose a lot of interest and confidence in the system and themselves. It is NOT in their best interests to sit back and watch the RMAH become a swamp of shit.
jimmyjingle
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States472 Posts
August 10 2011 17:28 GMT
#4394
On August 11 2011 02:22 Brad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 02:18 iNSiPiD1 wrote:
On August 11 2011 01:20 Belial88 wrote:
Wow that totalbiscuit video was fucking retarded. That guy....

I guess he isn't aware that people had transactions and 'cheated with cash' D2 all day long. People still do that with Wow. I sold my toon for $480 on WoW on ebay, even after my listing was removed, and another $100 on a dedicated gold website (lvl 60 that had t.05 gear... but it was the day before BC).

And then there's sites like d2jsp, where you use 'forum gold' to trade, which you could also conveniently buy from the forum as well. Which is, gasp, money used to buy items. Although you COULD just use in-game resources to buy items.

The RMAH is just taking the model of D2jsp, the most successful blizzard trading site to ever exist. It's an amazing idea, most people will stick to using in-game resources, a select few will pay cash, but have a neglible effect on the community.

And modding did NOT keep d2 alive 'for ages'. That is so ridiculous, only little kids played on open.

And we obviously see how SC2 benefits from online only. It prevents hacks and bots from ruining the server, and keeps money in the pocket of Blizz, as it should. I had (actually still have) over 2,000 CD keys for D2 (only used it for bots). That translates to a LOT of lost money to blizz.

It's funny how much he hates on bots/hackers/dupes, and then cries about online-only.

Blizzard is not taking 'cuts' from the community. You don't HAVE to use the RMAH, it's only for the kids with rich parents or the adults who could care less about spending $5 on the most epic gear in the game. It's a small fee, that players have to pay just as if they were to use ebay or paypal.

Most retaded video ever. Just like a lot of what he says, why doesn't he just stick with wow.

User was temp banned for this post.


I agree with this. TotalBiscuit was speaking out of ignorance on several things. The biggest of which was him talking about Blizzard being complete morons for adding this system into D3 instead of WoW. One doesn't have to look far to find Blizzard comments specific to why they believe this system is better for D3 than WoW.

Also, he completely ignores the difference between selling power through a store like LoL (where the content is created and sold by Riot) and the RMAH in D3 (where the content is FOUND by the players).

I used to think TB had a reasonable opinion on things, but this video is making me question whether that's true in general or not.


You can buy power in LoL?

it becomes necessary at a high level of play.
I get brain like a skull
zachMEISTER
Profile Joined December 2010
United States625 Posts
August 10 2011 17:29 GMT
#4395
On August 11 2011 02:22 Brad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 02:18 iNSiPiD1 wrote:
On August 11 2011 01:20 Belial88 wrote:
Wow that totalbiscuit video was fucking retarded. That guy....

I guess he isn't aware that people had transactions and 'cheated with cash' D2 all day long. People still do that with Wow. I sold my toon for $480 on WoW on ebay, even after my listing was removed, and another $100 on a dedicated gold website (lvl 60 that had t.05 gear... but it was the day before BC).

And then there's sites like d2jsp, where you use 'forum gold' to trade, which you could also conveniently buy from the forum as well. Which is, gasp, money used to buy items. Although you COULD just use in-game resources to buy items.

The RMAH is just taking the model of D2jsp, the most successful blizzard trading site to ever exist. It's an amazing idea, most people will stick to using in-game resources, a select few will pay cash, but have a neglible effect on the community.

And modding did NOT keep d2 alive 'for ages'. That is so ridiculous, only little kids played on open.

And we obviously see how SC2 benefits from online only. It prevents hacks and bots from ruining the server, and keeps money in the pocket of Blizz, as it should. I had (actually still have) over 2,000 CD keys for D2 (only used it for bots). That translates to a LOT of lost money to blizz.

It's funny how much he hates on bots/hackers/dupes, and then cries about online-only.

Blizzard is not taking 'cuts' from the community. You don't HAVE to use the RMAH, it's only for the kids with rich parents or the adults who could care less about spending $5 on the most epic gear in the game. It's a small fee, that players have to pay just as if they were to use ebay or paypal.

Most retaded video ever. Just like a lot of what he says, why doesn't he just stick with wow.

User was temp banned for this post.


I agree with this. TotalBiscuit was speaking out of ignorance on several things. The biggest of which was him talking about Blizzard being complete morons for adding this system into D3 instead of WoW. One doesn't have to look far to find Blizzard comments specific to why they believe this system is better for D3 than WoW.

Also, he completely ignores the difference between selling power through a store like LoL (where the content is created and sold by Riot) and the RMAH in D3 (where the content is FOUND by the players).

I used to think TB had a reasonable opinion on things, but this video is making me question whether that's true in general or not.


You can buy power in LoL?


Maybe it's the different rune pages...or having massive amounts of T5 runes..?
I dunno..maybe this guy doesn't know how LoL really works?
psillypsybic!
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
August 10 2011 17:32 GMT
#4396
On August 11 2011 02:29 zachMEISTER wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 02:22 Brad wrote:
On August 11 2011 02:18 iNSiPiD1 wrote:
On August 11 2011 01:20 Belial88 wrote:
Wow that totalbiscuit video was fucking retarded. That guy....

I guess he isn't aware that people had transactions and 'cheated with cash' D2 all day long. People still do that with Wow. I sold my toon for $480 on WoW on ebay, even after my listing was removed, and another $100 on a dedicated gold website (lvl 60 that had t.05 gear... but it was the day before BC).

And then there's sites like d2jsp, where you use 'forum gold' to trade, which you could also conveniently buy from the forum as well. Which is, gasp, money used to buy items. Although you COULD just use in-game resources to buy items.

The RMAH is just taking the model of D2jsp, the most successful blizzard trading site to ever exist. It's an amazing idea, most people will stick to using in-game resources, a select few will pay cash, but have a neglible effect on the community.

And modding did NOT keep d2 alive 'for ages'. That is so ridiculous, only little kids played on open.

And we obviously see how SC2 benefits from online only. It prevents hacks and bots from ruining the server, and keeps money in the pocket of Blizz, as it should. I had (actually still have) over 2,000 CD keys for D2 (only used it for bots). That translates to a LOT of lost money to blizz.

It's funny how much he hates on bots/hackers/dupes, and then cries about online-only.

Blizzard is not taking 'cuts' from the community. You don't HAVE to use the RMAH, it's only for the kids with rich parents or the adults who could care less about spending $5 on the most epic gear in the game. It's a small fee, that players have to pay just as if they were to use ebay or paypal.

Most retaded video ever. Just like a lot of what he says, why doesn't he just stick with wow.

User was temp banned for this post.


I agree with this. TotalBiscuit was speaking out of ignorance on several things. The biggest of which was him talking about Blizzard being complete morons for adding this system into D3 instead of WoW. One doesn't have to look far to find Blizzard comments specific to why they believe this system is better for D3 than WoW.

Also, he completely ignores the difference between selling power through a store like LoL (where the content is created and sold by Riot) and the RMAH in D3 (where the content is FOUND by the players).

I used to think TB had a reasonable opinion on things, but this video is making me question whether that's true in general or not.


You can buy power in LoL?


Maybe it's the different rune pages...or having massive amounts of T5 runes..?
I dunno..maybe this guy doesn't know how LoL really works?


Indirectly, you can. If you buy an IP boost and in turn, turn those boosted IP's into runes, then yes, you've purchased character strength. It's not as blatant as the D3 auction house, though.
Bibdy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3481 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-10 17:42:21
August 10 2011 17:42 GMT
#4397
On August 11 2011 02:32 turamn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 02:29 zachMEISTER wrote:
On August 11 2011 02:22 Brad wrote:
On August 11 2011 02:18 iNSiPiD1 wrote:
On August 11 2011 01:20 Belial88 wrote:
Wow that totalbiscuit video was fucking retarded. That guy....

I guess he isn't aware that people had transactions and 'cheated with cash' D2 all day long. People still do that with Wow. I sold my toon for $480 on WoW on ebay, even after my listing was removed, and another $100 on a dedicated gold website (lvl 60 that had t.05 gear... but it was the day before BC).

And then there's sites like d2jsp, where you use 'forum gold' to trade, which you could also conveniently buy from the forum as well. Which is, gasp, money used to buy items. Although you COULD just use in-game resources to buy items.

The RMAH is just taking the model of D2jsp, the most successful blizzard trading site to ever exist. It's an amazing idea, most people will stick to using in-game resources, a select few will pay cash, but have a neglible effect on the community.

And modding did NOT keep d2 alive 'for ages'. That is so ridiculous, only little kids played on open.

And we obviously see how SC2 benefits from online only. It prevents hacks and bots from ruining the server, and keeps money in the pocket of Blizz, as it should. I had (actually still have) over 2,000 CD keys for D2 (only used it for bots). That translates to a LOT of lost money to blizz.

It's funny how much he hates on bots/hackers/dupes, and then cries about online-only.

Blizzard is not taking 'cuts' from the community. You don't HAVE to use the RMAH, it's only for the kids with rich parents or the adults who could care less about spending $5 on the most epic gear in the game. It's a small fee, that players have to pay just as if they were to use ebay or paypal.

Most retaded video ever. Just like a lot of what he says, why doesn't he just stick with wow.

User was temp banned for this post.


I agree with this. TotalBiscuit was speaking out of ignorance on several things. The biggest of which was him talking about Blizzard being complete morons for adding this system into D3 instead of WoW. One doesn't have to look far to find Blizzard comments specific to why they believe this system is better for D3 than WoW.

Also, he completely ignores the difference between selling power through a store like LoL (where the content is created and sold by Riot) and the RMAH in D3 (where the content is FOUND by the players).

I used to think TB had a reasonable opinion on things, but this video is making me question whether that's true in general or not.


You can buy power in LoL?


Maybe it's the different rune pages...or having massive amounts of T5 runes..?
I dunno..maybe this guy doesn't know how LoL really works?


Indirectly, you can. If you buy an IP boost and in turn, turn those boosted IP's into runes, then yes, you've purchased character strength. It's not as blatant as the D3 auction house, though.


Thing is, you're not buying from an infinite supply of that item. Someone has to actually FIND the item first. So, its not like you can log in on day one and buy yourself a Grandfather. What are we really worried about here? Some rich kid who buys every item off the AH and sits on a treasure trove of great stuff as he ploughs through the game, while poor little you is sitting there having to grind your way up through the game?

So what? In what backwards world does his method of playing the game have any significant impact on my way of playing the game? It's a frigging PvE game.
Scabou
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany229 Posts
August 10 2011 17:42 GMT
#4398
Some screenshots, i hope it wasnt post before.
http://gry.onet.pl/fotogalerie/diablo-iii-10082011,4817733,10115040,galeria-duza.html

CANT WAIT :o
turamn
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1374 Posts
August 10 2011 17:46 GMT
#4399
On August 11 2011 02:42 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 02:32 turamn wrote:
On August 11 2011 02:29 zachMEISTER wrote:
On August 11 2011 02:22 Brad wrote:
On August 11 2011 02:18 iNSiPiD1 wrote:
On August 11 2011 01:20 Belial88 wrote:
Wow that totalbiscuit video was fucking retarded. That guy....

I guess he isn't aware that people had transactions and 'cheated with cash' D2 all day long. People still do that with Wow. I sold my toon for $480 on WoW on ebay, even after my listing was removed, and another $100 on a dedicated gold website (lvl 60 that had t.05 gear... but it was the day before BC).

And then there's sites like d2jsp, where you use 'forum gold' to trade, which you could also conveniently buy from the forum as well. Which is, gasp, money used to buy items. Although you COULD just use in-game resources to buy items.

The RMAH is just taking the model of D2jsp, the most successful blizzard trading site to ever exist. It's an amazing idea, most people will stick to using in-game resources, a select few will pay cash, but have a neglible effect on the community.

And modding did NOT keep d2 alive 'for ages'. That is so ridiculous, only little kids played on open.

And we obviously see how SC2 benefits from online only. It prevents hacks and bots from ruining the server, and keeps money in the pocket of Blizz, as it should. I had (actually still have) over 2,000 CD keys for D2 (only used it for bots). That translates to a LOT of lost money to blizz.

It's funny how much he hates on bots/hackers/dupes, and then cries about online-only.

Blizzard is not taking 'cuts' from the community. You don't HAVE to use the RMAH, it's only for the kids with rich parents or the adults who could care less about spending $5 on the most epic gear in the game. It's a small fee, that players have to pay just as if they were to use ebay or paypal.

Most retaded video ever. Just like a lot of what he says, why doesn't he just stick with wow.

User was temp banned for this post.


I agree with this. TotalBiscuit was speaking out of ignorance on several things. The biggest of which was him talking about Blizzard being complete morons for adding this system into D3 instead of WoW. One doesn't have to look far to find Blizzard comments specific to why they believe this system is better for D3 than WoW.

Also, he completely ignores the difference between selling power through a store like LoL (where the content is created and sold by Riot) and the RMAH in D3 (where the content is FOUND by the players).

I used to think TB had a reasonable opinion on things, but this video is making me question whether that's true in general or not.


You can buy power in LoL?


Maybe it's the different rune pages...or having massive amounts of T5 runes..?
I dunno..maybe this guy doesn't know how LoL really works?


Indirectly, you can. If you buy an IP boost and in turn, turn those boosted IP's into runes, then yes, you've purchased character strength. It's not as blatant as the D3 auction house, though.


Thing is, you're not buying from an infinite supply of that item. Someone has to actually FIND the item first. So, its not like you can log in on day one and buy yourself a Grandfather. What are we really worried about here? Some rich kid who buys every item off the AH and sits on a treasure trove of great stuff as he ploughs through the game, while poor little you is sitting there having to grind your way up through the game?

So what? In what backwards world does his method of playing the game have any significant impact on my way of playing the game? It's a frigging PvE game.


I never argued that it did. I was merely answering the guys question. I actually care very little about RMAH. If you want to use it, great, if not, whatevs.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
August 10 2011 17:49 GMT
#4400
On August 11 2011 02:28 jimmyjingle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 02:22 Brad wrote:
On August 11 2011 02:18 iNSiPiD1 wrote:
On August 11 2011 01:20 Belial88 wrote:
Wow that totalbiscuit video was fucking retarded. That guy....

I guess he isn't aware that people had transactions and 'cheated with cash' D2 all day long. People still do that with Wow. I sold my toon for $480 on WoW on ebay, even after my listing was removed, and another $100 on a dedicated gold website (lvl 60 that had t.05 gear... but it was the day before BC).

And then there's sites like d2jsp, where you use 'forum gold' to trade, which you could also conveniently buy from the forum as well. Which is, gasp, money used to buy items. Although you COULD just use in-game resources to buy items.

The RMAH is just taking the model of D2jsp, the most successful blizzard trading site to ever exist. It's an amazing idea, most people will stick to using in-game resources, a select few will pay cash, but have a neglible effect on the community.

And modding did NOT keep d2 alive 'for ages'. That is so ridiculous, only little kids played on open.

And we obviously see how SC2 benefits from online only. It prevents hacks and bots from ruining the server, and keeps money in the pocket of Blizz, as it should. I had (actually still have) over 2,000 CD keys for D2 (only used it for bots). That translates to a LOT of lost money to blizz.

It's funny how much he hates on bots/hackers/dupes, and then cries about online-only.

Blizzard is not taking 'cuts' from the community. You don't HAVE to use the RMAH, it's only for the kids with rich parents or the adults who could care less about spending $5 on the most epic gear in the game. It's a small fee, that players have to pay just as if they were to use ebay or paypal.

Most retaded video ever. Just like a lot of what he says, why doesn't he just stick with wow.

User was temp banned for this post.


I agree with this. TotalBiscuit was speaking out of ignorance on several things. The biggest of which was him talking about Blizzard being complete morons for adding this system into D3 instead of WoW. One doesn't have to look far to find Blizzard comments specific to why they believe this system is better for D3 than WoW.

Also, he completely ignores the difference between selling power through a store like LoL (where the content is created and sold by Riot) and the RMAH in D3 (where the content is FOUND by the players).

I used to think TB had a reasonable opinion on things, but this video is making me question whether that's true in general or not.


You can buy power in LoL?

it becomes necessary at a high level of play.

No its not... If you are in high level of play you get enough IP from playing games anyway. You see high level players with like 100k IP not being used.

RMAH is buying your way through grinding gold or random drops. I think the big problem is that it greatly it fucks up the value of gold and creates a huge inflation.

This will not stop boting or hacking of accounts.
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