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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3272 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-13 16:28:38
April 13 2016 16:28 GMT
#21241
On April 14 2016 01:26 shabby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 00:40 Faruko wrote:
On April 14 2016 00:22 shabby wrote:
When does the season end and the new one begin ish? If no dates are set, anyone got educated guesses based on previous seasons? Exams coming up soon, need muh D3 breaks while reading, but superdone with this seasons wiz+globe spam.

season ends 15th and starts 29th


Thanks, but which month are we talking about? May?

Battle.net tells me april

Edit: too slow, post can be deleted.
low gravity, yes-yes!
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
April 13 2016 16:40 GMT
#21242
On April 14 2016 01:27 Valiver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 01:26 shabby wrote:
On April 14 2016 00:40 Faruko wrote:
On April 14 2016 00:22 shabby wrote:
When does the season end and the new one begin ish? If no dates are set, anyone got educated guesses based on previous seasons? Exams coming up soon, need muh D3 breaks while reading, but superdone with this seasons wiz+globe spam.

season ends 15th and starts 29th


Thanks, but which month are we talking about? May?

This month, April


Oh, sick! Thanks
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
April 13 2016 17:06 GMT
#21243
On April 14 2016 00:54 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 00:15 oneofthem wrote:
what kind of macro are banned? autohotkey stuff or programmable mouse keys etc

As stated above, they ban anything that bind a single event to multiple event. So you can rebind mouse buttons to keyboard buttons, but you can't program a single button press to translate into more than a single action in game. Or that is how it works in StarCraft at least.


This is how it works in other games too. You can find WoW threads about people being banned for using programmable mice going back to Vanilla.

So this has been their policy for ages now.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 13 2016 17:40 GMT
#21244
You can program macros in game for WoW though.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22566 Posts
April 13 2016 17:43 GMT
#21245
On April 14 2016 02:40 andrewlt wrote:
You can program macros in game for WoW though.

Yep, and they are very limited for a reason. And you certainly cant use them to repeatedly cast a spell every X seconds.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
April 13 2016 23:20 GMT
#21246
On April 14 2016 01:22 Blackfeather wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 00:13 andrewlt wrote:
Spells like EBlast are definitely the problem. Most builds have 1-2 skills that you spam that can be spammed by holding the corresponding mouse button. The rest are long lasting buffs, burst skills on long cds, oh shit buttons and mobility skills (I map mobility on the mouse scroll button). Pressing the keyboard every few seconds isn't a problem.

The wizard's problem is having additional low cd spells that you have to bind on the keyboard. Now you're spamming 3-4 buttons instead of 1-2 and some of them are on the keyboard.

I don't think Eblast or spells with a similar cd are the problem, I think it's static cd reduction. EB is a shitty spell without cm or in-geom. And nobody in their right mind would get 90%cd reduction, it just doesn't pay off.

I don't even disagree with the design idea behind EB or similar spells. Imo the sorc is way cooler with a lot of nice looking elemental spells that she can spam on a 10-20 sec cd (although EB itself is pretty boring). That's why I rly like the idea behind the tal-rasha meteor set, imo a sorc is supposed to just turn the screen into a big firework.


Spamming is definitely part of Diablo. Fireball in D1. Frozen Orb D2

But those spells felt strong. ARguably, most spells feel strong in T10 after you are fully geared. But because they added the infinite power creep with GR scaling, most spells feel weak (because they lack the multipliers)

XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
April 13 2016 23:22 GMT
#21247
On April 14 2016 02:06 Wuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 00:54 Cascade wrote:
On April 14 2016 00:15 oneofthem wrote:
what kind of macro are banned? autohotkey stuff or programmable mouse keys etc

As stated above, they ban anything that bind a single event to multiple event. So you can rebind mouse buttons to keyboard buttons, but you can't program a single button press to translate into more than a single action in game. Or that is how it works in StarCraft at least.


This is how it works in other games too. You can find WoW threads about people being banned for using programmable mice going back to Vanilla.

So this has been their policy for ages now.


Unfortunately, I've never played WoW

There are alot of contradictionary information going on about macros. Green messages on the Forums do suggest that anything outside of 1 key = 1 action can lead to a ban. Blizzard didn't ban everyone though, so I guess there were other criteria
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
April 14 2016 21:17 GMT
#21248
So if anyone's been paying attention, what will the new OP classes/builds be?
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DODswe4
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2157 Posts
April 14 2016 23:19 GMT
#21249
from what I have heard invoker crusader is/was really strong on the ptr but don't know how hard the newest changes hit that
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
April 15 2016 19:10 GMT
#21250
Crusader and Wizard are once again crushing all other classes in solo GRifts on the PTR
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 15 2016 20:25 GMT
#21251
they just nerfed crusdar and wizard though.
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
April 15 2016 20:43 GMT
#21252
On April 16 2016 05:25 dAPhREAk wrote:
they just nerfed crusdar and wizard though.


did they? Got a link for the newest changes?
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
April 15 2016 20:54 GMT
#21253
On April 16 2016 05:43 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2016 05:25 dAPhREAk wrote:
they just nerfed crusdar and wizard though.


did they? Got a link for the newest changes?


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/20057106/patch-241-ptr-patch-notes-4-12-2016

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
April 15 2016 21:00 GMT
#21254
here is the blue post:

http://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/62087-ptr-stack-limits-on-firebirds-and-invokers
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
April 15 2016 21:00 GMT
#21255
oh right, looks good enough.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3272 Posts
April 15 2016 21:18 GMT
#21256
On April 14 2016 08:20 XenOmega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2016 01:22 Blackfeather wrote:
On April 14 2016 00:13 andrewlt wrote:
Spells like EBlast are definitely the problem. Most builds have 1-2 skills that you spam that can be spammed by holding the corresponding mouse button. The rest are long lasting buffs, burst skills on long cds, oh shit buttons and mobility skills (I map mobility on the mouse scroll button). Pressing the keyboard every few seconds isn't a problem.

The wizard's problem is having additional low cd spells that you have to bind on the keyboard. Now you're spamming 3-4 buttons instead of 1-2 and some of them are on the keyboard.

I don't think Eblast or spells with a similar cd are the problem, I think it's static cd reduction. EB is a shitty spell without cm or in-geom. And nobody in their right mind would get 90%cd reduction, it just doesn't pay off.

I don't even disagree with the design idea behind EB or similar spells. Imo the sorc is way cooler with a lot of nice looking elemental spells that she can spam on a 10-20 sec cd (although EB itself is pretty boring). That's why I rly like the idea behind the tal-rasha meteor set, imo a sorc is supposed to just turn the screen into a big firework.


Spamming is definitely part of Diablo. Fireball in D1. Frozen Orb D2

But those spells felt strong. ARguably, most spells feel strong in T10 after you are fully geared. But because they added the infinite power creep with GR scaling, most spells feel weak (because they lack the multipliers)


Think the main-difference in spell feeling are spammability and aoe. Frozen orb f.e. is a spammable whole screen affecting spell that deals decent damage and slows. Can't say much to fireball in d1, but fireball in d2 is pretty much arcane orb in spammable with super high castspeed. In d3 most spells are less flashy, especially the spammable ones. And the more flashy ones are often a lot weaker than other spells (blizzard, meteor shower, tornado). It's more "balanced" I guess.

@patch: wow they did exactly the changes for archon that I had in mind. Great stuff
low gravity, yes-yes!
Glacierz
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-19 20:00:41
April 19 2016 19:54 GMT
#21257
I pushed pretty hard this season and achieved my career best results, including a top 800 ladder in the second half of the season. Feeling very burnt out, I probably won't come back to this game for the next few seasons.

Best geared chars:
  1. LoN Sader - Best char this season, for high GRs. The crown was my best rolled gear this season.
  2. Flash Wiz - after reaching 1000 paragons, this setup was more fun for grinding lower lvl GRs, can't really play for long without the numpad trick though
  3. Orb Wiz - was gonna work on Caldesanning this set, but got burnt out and quit. The unstable scepter had some insane rolls.


I will be playing more Hearthstone when Standard format rolls out, feel free to add me. I have an account on both NA and EU servers.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
April 19 2016 21:01 GMT
#21258
Think there's any chance of frozen orb becoming a strong build defining spell again?
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
April 25 2016 05:57 GMT
#21259
For those thats been hitting up PTR, trying to decide whether to play monk or wiz next season, anyone know how theyre gonna be? Wiz is kinda always good, but if viable, I'd prefer monk - ideally as DPS.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
April 25 2016 08:11 GMT
#21260
You talking group or solo play? For Solo any player should just try to compete with their own class, everything else is irrelevant. For groups, Uliana EP might work as a group DPS build
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
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