EPTOn October 09 2015 03:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
they just did a ban wave, including Gabynator--a well known streamer.
they just did a ban wave, including Gabynator--a well known streamer.
yeah that was for hellfire exploit not botting
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
yeah that was for hellfire exploit not botting | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On October 09 2015 03:40 zev318 wrote: they banned him for exploiting not botting afaik And how would they detect bots? By scanning your computer, I mean every game out there right now has issues with 3rd party software. Some exploits are stupidly easy for them to detect, especially something like the Hellfire bug and bloodshard bug. But third party software is trickier depending on how it's written. Things like Turbohub are basically impossible for Warden (as restricted by court order) to detect as an example. I know being online for ridiculous hours is a pretty big red flag, but how is that proof that someone's botting? It's not nearly enough for the standards Blizzard likely has to use for the slim chance it leads to legal action. Also, in Heroes a bunch of people recently got banned for using a specific gfx card, that's just bad PR / CS =p. So I understand why they have to tread carefully even if there aren't legal issues to be worried about. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On October 09 2015 03:51 Wuster wrote: And how would they detect bots? By scanning your computer, I mean every game out there right now has issues with 3rd party software. Some exploits are stupidly easy for them to detect, especially something like the Hellfire bug and bloodshard bug. But third party software is trickier depending on how it's written. Things like Turbohub are basically impossible for Warden (as restricted by court order) to detect as an example. I know being online for ridiculous hours is a pretty big red flag, but how is that proof that someone's botting? It's not nearly enough for the standards Blizzard likely has to use for the slim chance it leads to legal action. Also, in Heroes a bunch of people recently got banned for using a specific gfx card, that's just bad PR / CS =p. So I understand why they have to tread carefully even if there aren't legal issues to be worried about. well having 20+ per day is easy to detect. unless someone sleeping for 4 hours per day from the start of the season till now is a real possibility. i mean just look at gabynator, he is at 1389 right now after being banned, i dont know how much evidence you really need there. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
They could be online that long for non-bot reasons too, sure a lot of those reasons are against ToS, but if you can't identify which term of service their violating then can you really ban them (not to mention the outside change it was legit)? If somehow everyone fessed up when they were banned Blizz could just do that with impunity, but that's not the world we live in and they have to justify what they do and justify it accurately. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On October 09 2015 03:50 Frolossus wrote: yeah that was for hellfire exploit not botting any actual source on this because there was rampant speculation, but i never saw that it was shown the reason for it. | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On October 09 2015 04:09 dAPhREAk wrote: any actual source on this because there was rampant speculation, but i never saw that it was shown the reason for it. im sure it was cause he posted blizzards email and it said it was hellfire exploit. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On October 09 2015 04:15 zev318 wrote: im sure it was cause he posted blizzards email and it said it was hellfire exploit. googled gabynator blizzard email lol http://i.imgur.com/tAhVZ7R.jpg isnt that mannercookie? gabynator's twitch claims he never used the exploit: http://www.twitch.tv/gabynator/v/18349403 | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
ya but im really sure that gaby showed the email afterwards on his stream. probably cant find it through his vods cause he deleted it, im sure. i mean he deleted his entire vod to when he got banned on sept 23. and everything i can google from that banwave on the 23rd all say it was only HFA exploit http://www.ros-bot.com/forums/general-discussion/banned-hf-exploit-208988 everyone in there says that they used HFA exploit and got banned http://i.imgur.com/8YUHPDs.png that is his ticket trying to get it reversed | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On October 09 2015 04:31 dAPhREAk wrote: same people said that alkaizerx was banned. hell, there was even a "news" announcement of it. anyways, it doesnt matter. who, that ryker guy or whatever? i heard that on quin's stream lol, everyone was laughing cause he clearly got trolled by a joke. | ||
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DuB phool
United States1003 Posts
I believe I applied to the correct one on US, would like an accept! | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On October 09 2015 08:07 DuB phool wrote: It's <Liquid> Team Liquid, right? I believe I applied to the correct one on US, would like an accept! correct. | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
RnG is RnG to, but at average what time do ppl clear Gr45? http://d3resource.com/difficulties.png Thats an difficulty overview that says what kind of droprate there is on T6 etc. Not 100% accurate. According to that overview, farming TX is not the effecient way to get legendaries. At the same time, at GR44+ blizzard increased the "loot from boss". | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On October 10 2015 00:37 Foxxan wrote: According to that overview, farming TX is not the effecient way to get legendaries. Well, it all depends on the speed and ease you can clear it, is it not? Why would yo go on a lower torment level, when you can wreck TX? Except for bounties, of course. | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6186 Posts
On October 10 2015 00:37 Foxxan wrote: With a generator build I just cleared a Gr45 in 5:06. Before that i cleared it in 6+. I think i have cleared it in 4+ to. Reaching the 5+min mark feels bad. Not sure what my average is, will probably clear a few now in a row with this build i have. RnG is RnG to, but at average what time do ppl clear Gr45? http://d3resource.com/difficulties.png Thats an difficulty overview that says what kind of droprate there is on T6 etc. Not 100% accurate. According to that overview, farming TX is not the effecient way to get legendaries. At the same time, at GR44+ blizzard increased the "loot from boss". who the hell put a dot between hundred and thousand T_T nice graph tough. | ||
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Foxxan
Sweden3427 Posts
On October 10 2015 00:51 Volband wrote: Well, it all depends on the speed and ease you can clear it, is it not? Why would yo go on a lower torment level, when you can wreck TX? Except for bounties, of course. deponds how u mean with wrecking I can clear T8 at average 2,3minute with my WW barb. I think average for TX is about 4.5min. My math isnt good but lets say these numbers are absolute and we look at that graph, which is faster for legandaries? | ||
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padfoota
Taiwan1571 Posts
http://tw.battle.net/d3/zh/profile/Thanatos-1507/hero/50631905 Running F+R (justice) + sacred harness. Toughness only clocking at 17mil no buffs so Im ridiculously squishy at the moment. Thankfully I havent even had the chance to pop either passives in GR, only had a heart stopping 10 seconds where my hp remained empty and no cd on potion. Hopefully this one wont die prematurely like my two barbs  | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8933 Posts
rank 803 - grift lvl 66 on the solo monk leaderboards at 14:51 i still have a ton of items to upgrade/optimize too. looking forward to breaking into lvl 67 real soon  oh and i didnt get a conduit pylon during that run either  | ||
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