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StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 20 2010 16:26 GMT
#19021
On September 21 2010 01:11 Soloside wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 23:29 STS17 wrote:
From their website:

Crescent Sweep - Xin Zhao fiercely sweeps his spear around him, dealing damage to nearby enemies based on their current health.
Xin Zhao unleashes a fierce spear sweep on targets around him, dealing 125/250/375 + 20/20/20% of their current health in physical damage. His magic resistance and armor are increased by 30/40/50 for the next 8 seconds.

Looks like I was incorrect. ^^

That's actually kind of a shame, because now he is just like pantheon. Buy a little bit of armor and he becomes very lack-luster. Of course his AoE abilities are infinitely better


too bad xin will always be a bigger threat to squishy carries than pantheon.


its true smash an afk xin will still be more of a threat than panth :p
You can't milk those!
suffeli *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Finland772 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 16:39:18
September 20 2010 16:38 GMT
#19022
Hmmhh... I've been playing with panth lately and he feels kinda mediocre. He is fun to play nevertheless especially with revive, but there are definately better champs that fills his role. What is the problem of building him tanky? He hits like a wet paper towel?
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 16:41:06
September 20 2010 16:40 GMT
#19023
On September 21 2010 01:19 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 01:05 Mogwai wrote:
it reapplies the slow on every tick iirc. I think with treads it's like, slow, recover, reslow, recover, reslow, etc.


the slow normally lasts 2 seconds, with merc treads it would be 1.2, the ticks of E are more frequent than 1.2 so you wouldnt even have time to recover before it re-applies the slow


actually its 1.5 seconds, so it would be 0.9 second slow, but i have no idea how often malz's e ticks, if its 1 per second tho, then there would be recovery time before it reprocs. (something tells me that its more than 1 tick per second tho)
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Fishcakes
Profile Joined May 2010
United States149 Posts
September 20 2010 16:44 GMT
#19024
Rylai's Scepter

+500 Health +80 Ability Power Passive: Your spell hits slow the target's movement speed by 35%
for 2 seconds (15% for multi-target spells).
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 16:45:04
September 20 2010 16:44 GMT
#19025
On September 21 2010 01:40 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 21 2010 01:19 StuffedTurkey wrote:
On September 21 2010 01:05 Mogwai wrote:
it reapplies the slow on every tick iirc. I think with treads it's like, slow, recover, reslow, recover, reslow, etc.


the slow normally lasts 2 seconds, with merc treads it would be 1.2, the ticks of E are more frequent than 1.2 so you wouldnt even have time to recover before it re-applies the slow


actually its 1.5 seconds, so it would be 0.9 second slow, but i have no idea how often malz's e ticks, if its 1 per second tho, then there would be recovery time before it reprocs. (something tells me that its more than 1 tick per second tho)


From the LoL website(though if its 1.5 then it just means they havent updated)
" Rylai's Crystal Scepter

+500 Health +80 Ability Power Passive: Dealing spell damage slows the target's movement speed by 35% for 2 seconds (15% for multi-target spells)."





Edit: fishcakes beat me to it
You can't milk those!
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 16:51:19
September 20 2010 16:49 GMT
#19026
o, i just looked up rylais crystal scepter on google and it got me this:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Rylai's_Crystal_Scepter

which says 1.5, mybe its old

edit: hmm, now that i think about it, i should probably just use lol's website too look up shit like this, im so used to it being useless, haha
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 20 2010 16:53 GMT
#19027
maybe I'm thinking with the post-cleanse debuff reduction... I just know I've seen awkwardly jerky run speeds on people with it before.

Problem with building Pantheon Tanky is that yes, he does no damage and is basically just a stun bot, which you can do way better with a bunch of different champions.

Pantheon has a stun and kicks into rape your face off way earlier than Xin. The difference between Panth Aegises Twitch -> Panth gets stunned by Sion and Xin Audacious Charges Twitch -> Xin gets stunned by Sion is pretty big. Basically, reliable stuns have a lot of value and while Xin is better under most circumstances he'll sometimes get interrupted before he can actually CC them.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 20 2010 16:57 GMT
#19028
regardless, isn't malz supposed to use all his spells at once and just try and kinda tick them down over 3 seconds or whatever? i still don't see the point of having a super expensive item that applies a slow when you just want to hit them with everything at once and kill them immediately. and his two spells that aren't malefic visions are gonna give a terrible terrible 15% slow that will do virtually nothing imo imo imo
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
September 20 2010 17:04 GMT
#19029
Has leaving/surrendering early become more common in LoL recently? The last two games I played were one in which we had two ragequitters, and one in which my team surrendered a game in which we were slightly down...but had won the last teamfight. This was especially annoying since I'd gotten two kills in that fight, had mejai + levi, and the cash for the kills bought me zhonya's (on Vlad).

Has there been an influx of impatient people in the mediocre ELO range or something?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 20 2010 17:05 GMT
#19030
malefic visions being a slow allows you to catch and punish people out of position without blowing your ult, which is a pretty big deal imo imo imo imo (moar seriously than your post because there are moar 'imo's).
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StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 17:08:46
September 20 2010 17:06 GMT
#19031
On September 21 2010 01:57 gtrsrs wrote:
regardless, isn't malz supposed to use all his spells at once and just try and kinda tick them down over 3 seconds or whatever? i still don't see the point of having a super expensive item that applies a slow when you just want to hit them with everything at once and kill them immediately. and his two spells that aren't malefic visions are gonna give a terrible terrible 15% slow that will do virtually nothing imo imo imo

he can also use his E for pretty good poking before the fight

edit: and yes to what smash said, it helps catch people out of position which is really useful
You can't milk those!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 20 2010 17:13 GMT
#19032
somebody should give this guy a medal:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=252501

P.S. Shen > Panth
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StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 20 2010 17:19 GMT
#19033
On September 21 2010 02:13 Mogwai wrote:

P.S. Shen < Panth

fix't
You can't milk those!
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
September 20 2010 17:22 GMT
#19034
On September 21 2010 02:13 Mogwai wrote:
somebody should give this guy a medal:
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=252501

P.S. Shen > Panth


Rofl, that got me.
That's hilarious.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 20 2010 17:24 GMT
#19035
it gets everyone. it's cyclical.

and shen's passive is sweet and he has an awesome AoE disable that's also a freakin' sweet escape mechanism and his ult's better.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Enki
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States2548 Posts
September 20 2010 17:24 GMT
#19036
On September 21 2010 02:04 oberon wrote:
Has leaving/surrendering early become more common in LoL recently? The last two games I played were one in which we had two ragequitters, and one in which my team surrendered a game in which we were slightly down...but had won the last teamfight. This was especially annoying since I'd gotten two kills in that fight, had mejai + levi, and the cash for the kills bought me zhonya's (on Vlad).

Has there been an influx of impatient people in the mediocre ELO range or something?


I certainly notice alot more assholes lately.

I quit 2 games yesterday.
The first one, everyone spoke portugese or something, and my lane partner walked right into tower range twice within the first 5 minutes. Like, no sense in me trying to play with people I can't even understand.

The second game, someone in champ select bitched that someone took his character (vlad).
The Vlad goes mid, the kid who bitched goes mid as well and he walks into middle and feeds their morde twice in a row. He says he will keep doing it all game.

That was one bad night ~_~

Maybe its because im in shit elo range thanks for kids like these.
"Practice, practice, practice. And when you're not practicing you should be practicing. It's the only way to get better. The only way." I run the Smix Fanclub!
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
September 20 2010 17:24 GMT
#19037
I was looking at the stats of a bunch of highly ranked players for 5v5 and noticed some weirdness going on with their item choices. For starters, if they're going AP, they seem to get multiple Doran's Rings. The most I saw was 3 on a random person's Nidalee. What's the point to this? I know the Doran items are cheap for the stats they provide, but 3 Doran's?

There's definitely a difference between how the pros itemize versus what the general public and 99% of item guides suggest. (Though I believe 99% of guides to be full of crap.) I'd like to see more information about pro builds. Does anyone have a list of what people got in the WCG tournaments for example?

Also, how do Kog, Vlad, and Ezreal compare to say Akali or Nidalee in terms of button pressing? I feel Nidalee/Akali have a higher skill requirement to play and would like to choose more champions with the same demands.
"Do a barrel roll"
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
September 20 2010 17:26 GMT
#19038
On September 21 2010 01:57 gtrsrs wrote:
regardless, isn't malz supposed to use all his spells at once and just try and kinda tick them down over 3 seconds or whatever? i still don't see the point of having a super expensive item that applies a slow when you just want to hit them with everything at once and kill them immediately. and his two spells that aren't malefic visions are gonna give a terrible terrible 15% slow that will do virtually nothing imo imo imo


Malz isn't nearly as good of a burster as Annie or Ryze, I think he's far better when built as 'caster-support' kind of champion, trying to have a constant slow on few of the opposing champs, silencing 3-4 guys and comboing his null zone with amumu's ulti and whatnot.
With Rylai's he can kite quite well.35% slow for 4+s is nothing to laugh at
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-20 17:28:01
September 20 2010 17:27 GMT
#19039
On September 21 2010 02:24 Phunkapotamus wrote:
I was looking at the stats of a bunch of highly ranked players for 5v5 and noticed some weirdness going on with their item choices. For starters, if they're going AP, they seem to get multiple Doran's Rings. The most I saw was 3 on a random person's Nidalee. What's the point to this? I know the Doran items are cheap for the stats they provide, but 3 Doran's?

There's definitely a difference between how the pros itemize versus what the general public and 99% of item guides suggest. (Though I believe 99% of guides to be full of crap.) I'd like to see more information about pro builds. Does anyone have a list of what people got in the WCG tournaments for example?

Also, how do Kog, Vlad, and Ezreal compare to say Akali or Nidalee in terms of button pressing? I feel Nidalee/Akali have a higher skill requirement to play and would like to choose more champions with the same demands.


Doran's stacking = more survivability early/mid game for squishies. It's more cost effecient than the nerfed catalysts every1 was using back in the day.

Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 20 2010 17:31 GMT
#19040
Stacking Dorans is mostly just a way to come back in lane from losing. It's usually not something you plan on doing so much as something you have to do to stay relevant when you're getting worked over early.

Kog is 100% positioning, hitting W at the right time and right clicking on the right guy. No difficulty there.

Vlad is a little tricky, but doesn't have as complex combos as Akali/Nid.

Ezreal is just being able to hit your Q and also some positioning and decision making with your E.

If you want another intricate combo character, play Kennen, his shit is mad tricky and cool. Really high skill cieling with that little fucker.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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