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yazu
United States255 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On September 20 2010 11:16 Phrost wrote: Okay heres the secret to double up. The 2nd shot travels backwards based on the direction that MF is not the creep. IE if she shoots it in the face, it will come out its ass, if she shoots it in its right side, it will come out the left. All you have to do is not stand directly in a line with a ranged minion and her. if you're off to one side then your chances of getting hit are much less. apparently it tries to pick a target in a 70 degree arc behind the target, if it cant, then it goes up to 180 degrees to find a target. or just move forward | ||
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Kaneh
Canada737 Posts
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
Jungle panth guide looks very interesting mogwai will def try it tonight. | ||
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radmax86
United States437 Posts
On September 20 2010 11:04 Southlight wrote: There are no real "counters" to Kass because he's a pretty straight-forward poke hero with range. Mord can walk through him for the most part, but he does that to most heroes. The big thing you have to understand with Kassadin is that you're going to get hit, so you have to punish him when Q is on cooldown. The players I struggle the most with (not heroes) are the ones that understand this and lay on pressure - this buys them enough time until my Q starts to really "kick in" that they get a farm advantage, hence why Kassadin is generally known to have a bad early game. For instance, most people know that Kassadin crushes Trist straight-up early on. However last night ColZDude fought me to a stand-still by taking advantage of my cooldown and picking me apart with autoattack, DoT, and jump. At level 8ish I started chomping him down but he'd kept up with CS by that point which is a "win" for Tristana. Likewise I've cruised against Master of LoL's Ezreal and Vladimir, yet have had some Ezreals beat me straight up, even kill me at level 2 by landing a good combo, and I've generally refrained from laning against Vlad because he starts overhealing me, so a good Vlad will lay on pressure with the drain + autoattack. Edit: Another example - Kass generally obliterates MF. Just ask HeavOnEarth. However an MF last night fought me to a standstill by going all-out on me with double-up and the rain of bullets with autoattack. She used her movement speed not to attempt to avoid me but to try to kill me, and in the war of attrition she'd start to win out because she simply does more damage than my Q. That's the sort of playstyle you NEED to swap to against Kassadin. You can't hope he won't hit you. How do you do against sivirs who are very good with their spell shields? | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
I think tanky builds like banshees veil and guardian angel are more normal and safe though. Oh and fun little story. I was playing a game where we were losing but the enemy team was just so insistent on doing baron that it lost them the game. We had top spawn above baron with flypigmomo as MF and me as GP. That's a fucking lot of distance aoe damage on the baron and they couldn't get it with our ults blowing them up. It's funny, both pirates have an evil little laugh and then boom the nukes start flying. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
Also, shit, Elementz played so well that game that he just gained a shit ton of respect from me. Dude was going nuts with Kennen: ![[image loading]](http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/1321/elementzvsloco.png) EDIT: high level jungle nunus run teleport + smite so that they can port to a ward on opposing buffs and steal with consume + smite. Epik ran it at WCG for that reason. | ||
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Apexplayer
United States406 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss125/zapzack3/urgotttt.png?t=1284961885) Btw, he sucks, way less op than other fed heros, but op nonetheless. Also, did you know that you can outrange kog maws ult with his q+e? If you have site (or a good guesser) you can get 3 ridiculously long range shots in before time is up. | ||
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goldenkrnboi
United States3104 Posts
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flowandebb
Canada158 Posts
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Xech
United States17 Posts
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 20 2010 10:13 Jazriel wrote: A lot of people don't understand Ashe at all it seems. W > Q > E? Wtf? Seriously? Have fun having a bad slow, unspammable volley, and very little farm. Not to mention, have you "Volley > All" people even seen the damage scaling on Volley? It goes up what, +10 dmg a level? What a joke. I'm a good Ashe, E > Q. Get one point in W early (lvl 2 or 3 depending on your lane). I'll default to maxing E and Q first, but depending on the enemy team and flow of the game you might need the reduced cooldown higher levels of W gives you, so you can put some points into it earlier. Then again, I run Clairvoyance and Flash on my Ashe. I have yet to see another Ashe good enough to do the same, so maybe I'm just crazy (lol ghost). So is this really meant seriously? You want to play her as an extremely weak autoattacker with a lot of scouting? Because that's all you get to do if you don't max W asap. Sure, being a support hero can be nice and fun, but Ashe has no way to dish out damage without Volley. Yeah right, the damage scaling on Volley is crap (even if you assume 5 hits, but at least you have 5*AD then). I would keep it at level 1 if it weren't for the cooldown. But turns out that you need it at rank 5 as soon as you hit level 9. At 4 seconds, it is decently spammable. At 2.4 seconds, it almost feels like Hate Spike. On a sidenote, I've been getting Philosopher's Stone more often lately. Almost every game. Works pretty well. Mana for 1 additional Volley every 30 seconds actually ups my damage output quite a bit between level 9 and 18 where I am often OOM. I don't like getting blue buff since I max CDR early anyways, and usually there is an ally who can use it better. I'll gladly take it from an enemy though :p Shurelia's Firecrest (the new item that builds from Philo) doesn't sound like a good idea though. I don't see a place in my build for it. Too expensive early, and too weak late game. | ||
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Iri
150 Posts
US client, Iridos - if anyone is interested in some practice games, I can use the practice. | ||
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Pikachusc2
Canada91 Posts
yeah im srs im down if you're not any of those | ||
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
Also I love it when Vlad's think using their pool is a better plan then taking a hit from Q, especially since my q will be off cd before their pool, and I'll be able to give him a nice 600 dmg burst making him have to back or watching him stay and die to my next teleport. I'd also like to add that with kassadin when i grab blue buff i have 2.6 sec cd on my teleport, meaning that NO CARRY IN THE WORLD WILL KILL ME BEFORE I CAN TELEPORT A SECOND TIME. In any realistic situation anyway, fully fed kog will ofc be able to kill the awsomeness that is Kassadin. | ||
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Jaw
United States274 Posts
On September 20 2010 16:16 Pikachusc2 wrote: im down if your not a turret hugging, healing using ghost running faggot yeah im srs im down if you're not any of those you sound angry. you mad? User was warned for this post | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On September 20 2010 15:02 goldenkrnboi wrote: how the hell do i keep going 10+ kills with katarina, and i've lost almost every single game. >> i hate my teams Kat can't push towers for shit and she has no late game in a game where she's not 20-0 by 15 minutes. | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On September 20 2010 14:33 Mogwai wrote: EDIT: high level jungle nunus run teleport + smite so that they can port to a ward on opposing buffs and steal with consume + smite. Epik ran it at WCG for that reason. he ran it for that reason, but he didnt notice amumu getting liz the first time and didnt tele and steal it like they had planned  | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
We were playing against Morg/Shen/Xin/Trynd(who was building ArP/AS? WTF?)/Akali, and getting absolutely destroyed until I realized that except for Morgana, they all have to be in melee range to do anything...hell even Morgana has to be close for her Ult. So we stacked Sunfires. Behold: ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/Pex5A.png) I was so mad at first too because I hadn't gotten my first win of the day yet. Also once again I blanked out my record 'cause I'm bad. | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On September 20 2010 04:28 UniversalSnip wrote: Who are all these people running for a drink of water as soon as champ select starts? It's always like "I got onto champ screen, picked x, went for a drink of water, and when I came back WAS SHOCKED TO SUDDENLY FIND teemo/mundo/jax/eve team!" How would that change if I stayed? They wouldn't pick this crap you think? | ||
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