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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
September 13 2010 13:39 GMT
#17761
So can someone explain to me how the inventory system works? Several times I've bought items that i thought were different from eachother.. but it still replaced the current item i had equipped.

Are magic/unique items replacing eachother?

I'm just totally confused.. halp
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 13:45:19
September 13 2010 13:42 GMT
#17762
Hotshot uses SotD on Xin because Attack Speed is actually pretty strong on him to begin with because of his passive and his W, as well as his Q to a lesser extent. SotD is what he uses in particular because of how he plays Xin - he runs full ArP, then gets Brutalizer + Ghostblade + SotD and bursts with 104 ArPen / Undodgable. It's a bit gimmicky, but it seems to work pretty well for him.

Edit: The item system works like this: Items in your inventory have their cost subtracted from the recipe that you wanted to buy. If you have a Ruby Crystal and want to purchase a Catalyst the Protector, you only need 850g instead of Catalyst's 1325 cost. Since you don't lose stats from combining, it's just a way to buy part of an item when you go to town instead of the whole thing.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 13:50:04
September 13 2010 13:48 GMT
#17763
On September 13 2010 22:39 Senx wrote:
So can someone explain to me how the inventory system works? Several times I've bought items that i thought were different from eachother.. but it still replaced the current item i had equipped.

Are magic/unique items replacing eachother?

I'm just totally confused.. halp

You probably bought an item that built from an item you already had.

Examples:
1) You have a Doran's Shield and buy a Cloth Armor. You will end up with both items because they are not related at all.
2) You have an Amplifying Tome and by a Mejai's Soulstealer. You will now only have the Soulstealer because the Tome builds into the Soulstealer. To make up for the loss, you only have to pay the price for "upgrading" the Tome. If you want a Tome and a Soulstealer, you can just buy another Tome. In all but very few cases it doesn't matter if you buy items in one go or if you get the parts it builds from first and complete the item later. It costs exactly the same.
3) You have a Sheen, a Phage and a Zeal, and buy a Trinity Force. Now you will only have the Trinity Force as it builds from all 3 items together. If you were missing the Zeal, you would just have to pay that additional money to finish the Trinity Force.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 13:54:22
September 13 2010 13:51 GMT
#17764
So theres 6 slots in the inventory if i remember right, and there's 5 different categories at the shop to choose items from, so how many items per category can I actually have in my inventory at once?

To above post:

No Im pretty sure I bought one of these unique/magic items that replaced a previous magic item

Was it beacuse they were both in the damage category?

Edit: Ok I think I understand better now. Pretty much you cannot use an item that is used to build a higher tier item.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 13 2010 13:52 GMT
#17765
Playing vs a soraka with smite. Let hilarity ensue.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 14:02:59
September 13 2010 13:55 GMT
#17766
On September 13 2010 22:51 Senx wrote:
So theres 6 slots in the inventory if i remember right, and there's 5 different categories at the shop to choose items from, so how many items per category can I actually have in my inventory at once?


The categories are just a way to find items more efficiently instead of having to scroll through a huge list. The items in those categories also overlap partially, for example Wit's End can be found under Attack -> Attack Speed and Defense -> Magic Resist

You can just have 6 items. No matter where they are from. If your inventory is full, you can still purchase Elixiers (Consumables), and they will be activated immediately (they give a 4 minute buff to various stats).


Yes you can use items that build into higher tier items.
Again the Soulstealer example:
You start off with an Amplifying Tome, and it gives you 20 Ability Power (AP). Later on you shop again and buy a Mejai's Soulstealer. Your Tome will be gone, but the Soulstealer will still provide the 20 AP plus other stats. There are only a few exceptions where stats are lost upon upgrading, but you always get something else for it.

UNIQUE does mean that the stats after this can only be obtained once, even though you can have the same item twice. For example you can get 2 Brutalizers. You will get 2 * 25 damage, but you can only get the other stats once (10% cooldown reduction and 15 armor penetration).
Unique does only apply to items with identical names. If you have 2 different items with the same unique stats, they will stack. Though there are exceptions, mainly the unique effects of Sheen/Lichbane/Trinity Force won't stack.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
September 13 2010 13:55 GMT
#17767
Senx - Yeah, the item is consumed. The only items I can think of where that's not a benefit are Catalyst and the Gold/10sec items.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
September 13 2010 13:59 GMT
#17768
Thanks alot guys.. just need to find my champ of choice now so I can figure out what items I need for it most :>
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 13 2010 14:00 GMT
#17769
Does anyone know how sheen interacts with xin's three talon strike aka his q? Does the bonus damage proc after the first hit or after the popup?
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 13 2010 14:02 GMT
#17770
first hit.

sidenote: don't build sheen on Xin.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 14:10:40
September 13 2010 14:04 GMT
#17771
I wouldn't I just get curious :3

also I tested manamune on shen to see if he'd get bonus damage based on 200 energy and the answer is no

also, to myopia, that was a great find in ki strikeanf vopal blade. I thought it was irrelevant at first but upon further consideration and testing, not only will ki strike not proc healing from vorpal, but if you already have the vorpal heal buff in progress and you attack the same creep with ki strike and kill it, you'll CANCEL the heal you were proccing

this isn't huge unless you're auto attacking but it is pretty annoying on jungle shen if you finish a creep with ki strike
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
September 13 2010 14:05 GMT
#17772
On September 13 2010 22:59 Senx wrote:
Thanks alot guys.. just need to find my champ of choice now so I can figure out what items I need for it most :>


You should have fun playing all the characters! Most people at low summoner levels are new to the game (or play like they're new) so you won't be out classed until you know what you're doing

Just remember 2 simple rules and you'll be godly: stay behind the guy who seems to know what they're doing (and this means the whole map, don't go closer to their base than the other guy) and never ever ever try to save someone from dying unless your whole team is going to save them.

Other than that, you'll get the hang of it! I started with LoL as a newbie and have worked my way up to being almost average HA!
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
September 13 2010 14:08 GMT
#17773
On September 13 2010 23:02 Mogwai wrote:
first hit.

sidenote: don't build sheen on Xin.


But Xin's E has this awesome .4 ratio! Don't be a hater
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 13 2010 14:09 GMT
#17774
Mogwai hate what he pleases!

HSGG's build is bad too. Any time I try to use that crap I just die, why the fuck would you not just build tanky with a BR?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Not Locodoco
Profile Joined September 2010
2 Posts
September 13 2010 14:20 GMT
#17775
damn, the korean colleges rejected me
so now i can full time lol again
goal for next 2 months is to hit 1900 solo q elo :D
wish me luck guys ~
(and i wont troll team liquid forumz this tiem 8D )
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
September 13 2010 14:34 GMT
#17776
SotD is nice on any hero that uses primarily auto-attacks or enhanced auto attacks. 100 bonus magic damage ever 4 hits is more or less 25 bonus magic damage to each auto attack. Not bad at all imho
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
September 13 2010 14:39 GMT
#17777
Or you could buy a Pickaxe.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 13 2010 14:40 GMT
#17778
pickaxe + 55% AS is more expensive than SotD...

just saying...
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 14:44:01
September 13 2010 14:42 GMT
#17779
But assuming you're a physical DPS and down the line you're intending to invest in armor pen (or you already have) it's more damage.

Edit:
For instance, SotD might be more cost effective in terms of ASPD than Pickaxe + Recurve (+25 damage +40% aspd) but

with the latter you're halfway to Bloodrazor.





Hmm.

Edit2:
or should I say

just saying...
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
September 13 2010 14:44 GMT
#17780
LW>SotD 99% of the time anyways =[
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