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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
September 13 2010 14:44 GMT
#17781
On September 13 2010 23:44 Yiruru wrote:
LW>SotD 99% of the time anyways =[


I totally agree (/o_o)/

SotD is quite the Jax killer though.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 13 2010 14:46 GMT
#17782
I'm not disagreeing that SotD is nothing special, but to say "just buy a pickaxe" is oversimplifying, lol.

The 30 Armor Pen in your burst is the biggest selling point of SotD anyway.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
September 13 2010 14:47 GMT
#17783
On September 13 2010 23:20 Not Locodoco wrote:

LOL
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 13 2010 14:50 GMT
#17784
yo utah, while you posting here, edit this guide into first post and mark my old pantheon guide out of date:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129727&currentpage=855#17097
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
September 13 2010 14:50 GMT
#17785
On September 13 2010 23:46 Mogwai wrote:
The 30 Armor Pen in your burst is the biggest selling point of SotD anyway.


Fine.

Just buy LW.

And get comparable (and later significantly better) armor pen, and have comparable damage output via the +10 damage (considering the +25 gets shafted by MR which you won't be reducing on most aspd heroes)
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Not Locodoco
Profile Joined September 2010
2 Posts
September 13 2010 14:51 GMT
#17786
On September 13 2010 23:44 Yiruru wrote:
LW>SotD 99% of the time anyways =[

LW isn't that great of an item anymore
I'll buy SotD or Brut if the other team has 2 or more 200+ armor champs
Think about it,ur not gonna be focusing them anyways and Brut or SotD is gonna give more boost to ur damage for the gold when ur hitting <100 targets,(i run armor pen quints and marks)
so think twice before u spend 1950 on an item that u shouldnt get
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 13 2010 14:51 GMT
#17787
personally I think Starks is more comparable to SotD than LW, but yea, w/e, they're both 99% of the time better than SotD, so w/e.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 13 2010 14:53 GMT
#17788
lol that was fast
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
September 13 2010 14:54 GMT
#17789
On a different note, my last two ranked wins are not with Kassadin. Oh snap!
When do you play on weekends? I played all Friday/bunch of Sat and then set Sun aside for work... only to find you not around at all on Fri/Sat and then you appear late Sunday O_o
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azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
September 13 2010 14:54 GMT
#17790
Oh, I always got SotD for anti-dodge, e.g. Jax/Nid
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 13 2010 14:58 GMT
#17791
well this weekend was weird because my girlfriend out of nowhere decided to hop on a bus up to NYC Friday afternoon and spend the weekend with me, so I was pretty busy until she peaced out on Sunday.

on typical non-GF weekends, I just sporadically play all weekend, lol.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
September 13 2010 15:03 GMT
#17792
Mmkay.

What do people think of an AP page on Taric?
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 13 2010 15:08 GMT
#17793
Mana Regen > AP for Taric, Janna, Soraka, etc.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
September 13 2010 15:11 GMT
#17794
On September 14 2010 00:08 NeoIllusions wrote:
Mana Regen > AP for Taric, Janna, Soraka, etc.


Really?

PGB has always run a pure AP page on Soraka, and you can definitely feel it laning against him - he can run off level 1 Astral which makes it a lot nicer on the mana pool.

Taric gets mad mana off auto-attack, so the big thing for him is staying power (especially as you can take Clarity on him if so desired). It's why you used to see people running around with massive armor pages on Taric. Hence my wondering if AP is a viable alternative on him (esp in light of the switch of his AP ratio vs his base heal).

Janna definitely needs regen, but she also tends to take Clarity, so I'm not sure.
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 15:15:23
September 13 2010 15:12 GMT
#17795
I could see playing around with AP/lvl Reds/Quints on Taric, but I don't think i'd give up mp5pl in either other slot. That'd give, what, 39 AP? (31 with flat AP quints?) Flat AP might be worth it.. you'd basically counteract the latest Q nerf while boosting your other skills, and you're not THAT squishy at l1. I'm not really sure how well it'd actually play lategame, though.

edit: did not know that AP was blue primary. I think I might actually start buying them to try.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 15:16:55
September 13 2010 15:16 GMT
#17796
^^

It's not so much a countering his nerf and more wondering if the AP page I'm building is worth using on Taric as well. As it is when I play Taric I run mspd quints aspd marks and double mp5pl, lol.

Edit:
Not that I think that's good on him, I just don't own tank runes.
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
September 13 2010 15:18 GMT
#17797
I think it might be worth testing something like.. 1x MSpd, 2x AP Quints, AP/Lvl Marks/Glyphs, Mp5 seals? That'd give you a ton of extra AP by midgame, but you might need to build a regen item (tears/chalice) to sustain.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 13 2010 15:20 GMT
#17798
just run clarity

new topic, olaf is the scariest motherfucker in this game, discuss.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-13 15:22:23
September 13 2010 15:20 GMT
#17799
On September 14 2010 00:20 Mogwai wrote:
just run clarity

new topic, olaf is the scariest motherfucker in this game, discuss.


I hit R and laugh, and then E him when his ult is down, and laugh some more.

Edit:
He's definitely more effective than Udyr (lol) at trying to kill a DPS carry through a supporting Kassadin, though.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 13 2010 15:22 GMT
#17800
Kassadin is such a cheater.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
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