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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
September 09 2010 12:56 GMT
#17001
due to the lack of escaping item, champs such at kraken which allowed you to "capture" enemy champs are just imba. see amumu and gren or shen? those initiator =force you to get cleanse or flash else the enemy will get 1 free kill
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Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
September 09 2010 13:00 GMT
#17002
Is it just me or is there no one on chat? Either LiquidParty, SWF, or the default channels. PVP Chat is broken methinks?
#1 LoL player
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
September 09 2010 13:01 GMT
#17003
Rammus is an incredible initiator. Idk wth you people are on. Dshield -> Boots1 -> HoG -> Boots2 -> GA.

Having a team following a rolling Rammus is plain scary.
#1 LoL player
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
September 09 2010 13:22 GMT
#17004
if you want to play rammus you basically have to jungle though, his lane phase is horrendous and hes a great early game ganker so I dont see any other way to play him. not to mention that he can keep up with the solo lane jungling.

i dont think misfortune is that good, i was midding vs master of LoL last night as malzahar and i dominated him in the lane phase, Q spam didnt effect me much with 0-9-21 masteries. i could regen it easily enough. in the meantime, everytime he went up to Q me he ate a 400 dmg nuke + 300 silence if i hit it. i had a jungling warwick and we had a fun time LOl DOUBLE SUPPRESSION WHY U PLAYIN THIS GAME BRO?

also her ult makes no sense as an auto attacking hero, at least with ezrael its global so you can fire it to get charges on your passive before the fight starts, hers is pretty close range so you would have to use after the fight starts which means you arent auto attacking for pretty much the whole fight....its basically just an early game weapon/farming tool...pretty bad
Brees on in
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 09 2010 13:24 GMT
#17005
There was already 4 win IP boost on EU, dunno what You ppl talking about, lol.
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Infie
Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands59 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 13:27:49
September 09 2010 13:27 GMT
#17006
On September 09 2010 21:41 ghen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 21:38 redtooth wrote:
On September 09 2010 21:26 ghen wrote:
kraken
so basically an imba blitzcrank?


That's exactly what I thought. Imagine blitz being able to pull their entire team and target easier since it isn't a skill shot.


blitz is pudge in dota or devourer in hon. (same grapple hook as main skill) lol is really different from dota/hon. abilities and especially ults are a lot more epic in dota/hon but have higher cooldowns and cost more mana. it is also a lot harder to catch multiple heroes in 1 eoa imo because the map seems bigger for some reason.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
September 09 2010 13:27 GMT
#17007
On September 09 2010 21:44 ProdT wrote:
Kraken isnt even that powerful in Heroes of Newerth, he would be dumb in League of Legends.


Kraken's ults seem easy and imba but in fact they are incredibly difficult to pull off right. However, I once got a 5-man ult into an overfed Soulstealer and it was basically an instant ace. Man they were raging hard.

It's not that hard to balance such a champ, his AoE is anything but large so CC both prevents him from ulting and makes him look like an idiot.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Tyri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany453 Posts
September 09 2010 13:28 GMT
#17008
Anyone knows when the patch will happen on EU servers?
I really hate to be x days behind the US servers (was like that in wow too :X)
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
September 09 2010 13:34 GMT
#17009
On September 09 2010 22:27 Infie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 21:41 ghen wrote:
On September 09 2010 21:38 redtooth wrote:
On September 09 2010 21:26 ghen wrote:
kraken
so basically an imba blitzcrank?


That's exactly what I thought. Imagine blitz being able to pull their entire team and target easier since it isn't a skill shot.


blitz is pudge in dota or devourer in hon. (same grapple hook as main skill) lol is really different from dota/hon. abilities and especially ults are a lot more epic in dota/hon but have higher cooldowns and cost more mana. it is also a lot harder to catch multiple heroes in 1 eoa imo because the map seems bigger for some reason.


Admit it, people in HoN/DotA are just better at dodging skillshots. In fact, the thing I hate most about LoL is the lack of disjoints. Seen that video where a sand king at like 10 hp is running away from a Lion where he disjoints Lion's autoattack by burrow strike and kills him without taking any damage? That kind of shit is impossible in LoL because almost nothing disjoints.

FFS I've had numerous occasions of Garen's ult reaching a blinking champion when he already transfered to a different place. Sure I love it when I play Garen, but when I play Kass it makes me think that the game is fucking stupid.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
September 09 2010 13:37 GMT
#17010
Apparently Zilean's ult got a stealth change. It's gone from the boring 3 small wooden hourglasses to 3 giant glowing golden hourglasses that glow with the brightness of a 5-sunfire Garen with Courage up. It's more or less completely impossible to not know that the ult's on you now, so it's a buff to getting people to run back in and a nerf to putting it up too early.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 14:17:20
September 09 2010 13:40 GMT
#17011
Some guy picks WW with Ghost/Ignite. I tell him to get Smite. "lol u low elo?"
Yeah I tried to explain it to him, but his only answer was "waste of a summoner slot". Might also mention that this was unranked, so blind pick.
Then I had to give mid to a Nidalee who got like 70 minion kills while the enemy Ez got 120. Can't convince anyone of anything once they for some reason think you're a newbie...
My laning partner Kennen kept autoattacking despite me telling him to stop. I mean, I had their Kayle and non-jungling Olaf (they had no jungler at all) zoned, and he kept pushing the lane like mad. And because he has more damage etc he also stole all my farm, or just denied it by letting minions kill them.
I had opened Regrowth, promptly earning a "fail". Because of the horrible farm I got Philosopher's (we don't have the patch yet on EU) and Avarice.
In the mean time our WW got fed like an idiot, he was at 12-2 by the end of the game. We won just after I was able to finish Ghostblade/Bruta/Swifties. And I really was only running around trying to get my farm back up. Was ganked by 3 people once which led to my only death.
WW claimed to know top players who would never jungle with Smite. He made it sound like he was friends with them. Oh and apparently my Ghostblade was fail too.

God I hate it when idiots are allowed to feed on bad players and think they are so good...
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
September 09 2010 13:54 GMT
#17012
On September 09 2010 22:22 Brees wrote:
if you want to play rammus you basically have to jungle though, his lane phase is horrendous and hes a great early game ganker so I dont see any other way to play him. not to mention that he can keep up with the solo lane jungling.


What starting items/path ?
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 14:23:57
September 09 2010 14:13 GMT
#17013
On September 09 2010 22:01 Jazriel wrote:
Rammus is an incredible initiator. Idk wth you people are on. Dshield -> Boots1 -> HoG -> Boots2 -> GA.

Having a team following a rolling Rammus is plain scary.
rammus sucks. play a real jungle tank.

On September 09 2010 22:34 BluzMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2010 22:27 Infie wrote:
On September 09 2010 21:41 ghen wrote:
On September 09 2010 21:38 redtooth wrote:
On September 09 2010 21:26 ghen wrote:
kraken
so basically an imba blitzcrank?


That's exactly what I thought. Imagine blitz being able to pull their entire team and target easier since it isn't a skill shot.


blitz is pudge in dota or devourer in hon. (same grapple hook as main skill) lol is really different from dota/hon. abilities and especially ults are a lot more epic in dota/hon but have higher cooldowns and cost more mana. it is also a lot harder to catch multiple heroes in 1 eoa imo because the map seems bigger for some reason.
Admit it, people in HoN/DotA are just better at dodging skillshots. In fact, the thing I hate most about LoL is the lack of disjoints. Seen that video where a sand king at like 10 hp is running away from a Lion where he disjoints Lion's autoattack by burrow strike and kills him without taking any damage? That kind of shit is impossible in LoL because almost nothing disjoints.
are they? i mean i main movespeed katarina which basically relies on me not getting hit (even by auto-attacks) by moving faster than they can react (at level 1 my hp is pretty close to my movespeed lol). flash and zhonyas are free "disjoints" available to every single hero in the game and i'm pretty sure garen's ult bug is just an animation bug (meaning that he killed you before you teleported but the animation happens in a weird order). honestly i hate people who say HoN/DotA is better at ______ because there are many top DotA players who have moved to LoL and say that there isn't much of a difference (some even say LoL's competition is harder).
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Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
September 09 2010 14:30 GMT
#17014
hi i switched from DotA to LoL

LoL is much easier

=[

Rammus is good also =[

Flash is just a get out of jail free card when you make a mistake.

Kraken will never be balanced as long as Flash is in the game, but will also be useless without it. (Hint, Flash needs to not work if you take damage or CC)
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
September 09 2010 14:34 GMT
#17015
On September 09 2010 23:30 Yiruru wrote:
hi i switched from DotA to LoL

LoL is much easier

=[

Rammus is good also =[

Flash is just a get out of jail free card when you make a mistake.

Kraken will never be balanced as long as Flash is in the game, but will also be useless without it. (Hint, Flash needs to not work if you take damage or CC)
zzz i hate you. kill my thunder more.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
September 09 2010 14:39 GMT
#17016
LoL is significantly easier than HoN. Only good thing is LoL is free and HoN is more "My hero counters your hero, gg in 40 min."
#1 LoL player
Nabber
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom11 Posts
September 09 2010 14:42 GMT
#17017
Ok just a quick question - I recently started playing Poppy (free rotations ftw) - after 5-10 games i bought her though, but I have a question in regards to mastery/rune/item builds - I'm trying to work out the better option, AP, AD, or a mix of both. Can anybody help me with some ideas? I usually build sheen into lich bane or tri force, but from there onwards I can't decide - Zhonya's? hextech? TBC? Basically my aim is to get my Q doing as much damage as possible so i can ulti and focus down the squishy carry in seconds.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 14:44:51
September 09 2010 14:43 GMT
#17018
How can LoL be significantly easier than HoN? In what aspect? Are you implying there is a hard, low skill cap? Are the mechanics easier? Are the opponents worse?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 14:52:30
September 09 2010 14:51 GMT
#17019
Jungle rammus: Apen / Flat Armor / Scaling MR / Health, start with cloth armor + pots, blue golem first and skill d-curl over powerball.

Haven't played HoN, but from what I hear Ulti's are on much longer CD's and more mana intensive, wards are capped or have CDs.
AtTheFuneral
Profile Joined December 2009
United States137 Posts
September 09 2010 14:51 GMT
#17020
Yea please explain how LoL is so much easier than HoN. Only thing that maybe easier is that you dont have to learn two shops and items are easier to learn. Other than that I'd say both take equal skills. They both imply the same concepts except HoN has denying and don't tell me that denying makes the games drastically harder thats just retarded.
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