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On September 08 2010 00:39 Mogwai wrote:
TT is just such a boring map in my experience. I just feel like it's essentially impossible to farm anywhere when you're behind, which means that when the opposing team gets their foot on your throat, the game is just over and the next 10-15 minutes are merely a painful formality.
My goal is to find a group of people that... actually know how to farm in come back. It is quite hard on TT, but not impossible at all.
And yes, Up Down Left Right Up Up Down Down will unlock the server from "Busy" mode.
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On September 08 2010 00:56 Budikhan wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 00:39 Mogwai wrote:
TT is just such a boring map in my experience. I just feel like it's essentially impossible to farm anywhere when you're behind, which means that when the opposing team gets their foot on your throat, the game is just over and the next 10-15 minutes are merely a painful formality. My goal is to find a group of people that... actually know how to farm in come back. It is quite hard on TT, but not impossible at all.
Against good players if you lose your outer two towers and they still have theirs you've already lost unless you can miracle ace them because they'll just ward your base and know where you are at all times while roaming jungle and keeping waves pushing and then as soon as you move out you either get ganked as a split group or lose a tower pushing out together.
Not very easy to beat and they just straight outfarm you in the meantime by controlling liz/dragon.
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the real problem with TT is that it is even worse then SR in terms of "over at champ select"
or you just play vs an annoying team like shaco/nidalee/singed and never get a kill all game and wth is the fun is that?
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I'd be down for 5s. My nick is Vuvuzilean.
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On September 07 2010 23:41 ProdT wrote:
That's why this game shouldn't be taken seriously, most of what determines "winning" in this game is completely out of your hands. I like to sit in ELO hell and try to have fun. It is very stressfull if you try to be competitive at this game only to have other people ruin your games. The only way to go competitve in my opinion is to only play premades on a team.
Ofc the game is only competitive if you get a team and do premades. But that's what happens in every other competitive games.
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Well, it was an invitation not an order. I realize it is a bitch and near impossible, but I feel that if you have a team of 3 solid individuals and a good team comp, you might be able to pull some magic.
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On September 08 2010 01:10 tomaladisto wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2010 23:41 ProdT wrote:
That's why this game shouldn't be taken seriously, most of what determines "winning" in this game is completely out of your hands. I like to sit in ELO hell and try to have fun. It is very stressfull if you try to be competitive at this game only to have other people ruin your games. The only way to go competitve in my opinion is to only play premades on a team. Ofc the game is only competitive if you get a team and do premades. But that's what happens in every other competitive games.
Only in other competitive TEAM games, you don't necessarily need a team to be competitive in Starcraft.
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On September 08 2010 01:44 ProdT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 01:10 tomaladisto wrote:On September 07 2010 23:41 ProdT wrote:
That's why this game shouldn't be taken seriously, most of what determines "winning" in this game is completely out of your hands. I like to sit in ELO hell and try to have fun. It is very stressfull if you try to be competitive at this game only to have other people ruin your games. The only way to go competitve in my opinion is to only play premades on a team. Ofc the game is only competitive if you get a team and do premades. But that's what happens in every other competitive games. Only in other competitive TEAM games, you don't necessarily need a team to be competitive in Starcraft.
Well you do, but for a different reason.
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serious stuff:
Poll: What you spend your IP on mostlyRunes/Runes page (38) 64% Champs (21) 36% 59 total votes Your vote: What you spend your IP on mostly (Vote): Champs
(Vote): Runes/Runes page
For champ:
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: Spending IP on champs depend on:Love (how cute kennen teemo are) (16) 57% Usefullness (top ban champ) (8) 29% Imba (Ez) (3) 11% Price of champ (most expensive 1st) (1) 4% 28 total votes Your vote: Spending IP on champs depend on: (Vote): Price of champ (most expensive 1st)
(Vote): Usefullness (top ban champ)
(Vote): Love (how cute kennen teemo are)
(Vote): Imba (Ez)
For Rune:
+ Show Spoiler +Poll: Spending IP on runes depend on:What champs you have (30) 81% General HP/mana to stay alive (7) 19% 37 total votes Your vote: Spending IP on runes depend on: (Vote): What champs you have
(Vote): General HP/mana to stay alive
please consider that you are level 30 which mean you cna buy anything with your IP
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runes + based on my champs.
Reason: Runes can only be bought for IP, so if I ever were to invest real money into this game and I would mostly lack runes... that wouldn't be nice.
For the rune poll, both answers are kinda correct for me. I already have a lot of the generally useful runes like HP quints, MP5/L, APen, MPen, Dodge, flat CDR, MR/L, flat Armor... but I am always buying towards the needs of the champs I am currently playing.
I'm also hoping for more stuff like the free Nightmare Cho'gath (if you didn't own him before, you got him for free!), and it is unlikely that there will be an HP Quint giveaway :p
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champions: things i feel like playing, urgots the next i guess.
Or maybe mp5 / dodge / mr runes? idk
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Make a general page every hero can benefit from.
And i buy heroes based on if ive played them while they were free and found them fun(things like gangplank morde etc) though i didnt play morde when he was free.. he looked cool so i bought him and i havent regreted it he's fun as hell
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Tales of IP farm games:
stoppin (1:29): so i was doing an ip farm game
stoppin (1:29): and then these retards who didn't read chat were attacking the nexus before time is up
stoppin (1:29): we were worried
stoppin (1:29): as they is no way to kill them, both turrets were down
stoppin (1:29): then here comes RYZE BOT
stoppin (1:30): and DOUBLE KILL
stoppin (1:30): and he saves the day
Now that practice games need 6 human players, bot team needs 1 human player to speak. I proceed to massively troll these guys by afking, but going around killing shit as annie when tibbers cd is up. And there was another active player on my team who was trolling too, but quit halfway.
Instead of 11 min victory, took them 25 mins to win the game lolol.
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On September 08 2010 00:56 Budikhan wrote:
And yes, Up Down Left Right Up Up Down Down will unlock the server from "Busy" mode.
Was just browsing cuz the servers were busy and i was waiting for them to open up again. Then the first post i read is this... I LOVE YOU!
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On September 08 2010 01:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2010 00:56 Budikhan wrote:On September 08 2010 00:39 Mogwai wrote:
TT is just such a boring map in my experience. I just feel like it's essentially impossible to farm anywhere when you're behind, which means that when the opposing team gets their foot on your throat, the game is just over and the next 10-15 minutes are merely a painful formality. My goal is to find a group of people that... actually know how to farm in come back. It is quite hard on TT, but not impossible at all. Against good players if you lose your outer two towers and they still have theirs you've already lost unless you can miracle ace them because they'll just ward your base and know where you are at all times while roaming jungle and keeping waves pushing and then as soon as you move out you either get ganked as a split group or lose a tower pushing out together. Not very easy to beat and they just straight outfarm you in the meantime by controlling liz/dragon. eh this isn't necessarily true. when i run 3s (and when knaan ran 3s) we just focus on getting all 4 buffs. towers really aren't that important since everybody can dive hella well and it can be torn down in 5 seconds. jungle > laning on that map and people often neglect the 2 top buffs thinking red's such a cool color. and they end up losing.
as for the IP budget question, preseason i spent money only on getting runes (i have a pretty extensive rune collection) but it's getting hard as people start banning nidalee/katarina against me. i realize i'm pretty fucking bad with the other heroes i own. wish i had bought some ezpz heroes (taric, janna, garen, etc) instead of some of the most useless runes.
here's a list of runes i recommend:
- armor pen marks/quints (standard physical DPS)
- aspd marks/quints (many jungling heroes)
- scaling mp5 seals/glyphs (mana hungry heroes)
- scaling mres seals/glyphs (everybody else, full set gives a free negatron cloak @18)
runes i have but wish i didn't. some of them may be surprising but really think about the reasoning:
- flat health quints (overrated, helps to not die but so do brains. sometimes good to have for TT though. oh and also ARAM lol.)
- magic pen marks (you get a total of 9 pen with full marks. that's less than half of sorc boots. but i'll keep using them until i can think of something better to replace my marks with. may just run armor pen on casters since i do auto-attack a good amount and makes lich bane a bit more useful.)
- dodge (*sigh* 820 per rune and i don't even use them. essentially gives you 7% more health which sounds awesome in theory but mostly only works vs auto attacks. scaling HP gives you better value until you have more than 2500 hp but even then it works with all forms of damage so it's better. still recommend scaling mres though.)
- flat CDR (i'm a firm believer that CDR is a useless stat. full glyphs give 6% CDR. that means in a 100 second CD, you save yourself 6 seconds. WOW SO GUD. in a 10 second CD, you save yourself .6 seconds. AMAZING RIGHT? account for human error/reflexes and the fact that you time your skills and don't blind spam, your CD runes are going to waste since the time you save is being wasted regardless. don't know about you but i'd rather have half a negatron.)
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I switched my caster page to flat AP blues instead of flat CDR.
Didn't notice a difference in game either way.
So I'll try mres per level next 
Only difference really is Ryze. At level 18 with CDR blues and blue buff he can combo 3 times while his ult is up instead of 2 combos without having to buy CDR items.
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^ yay! I love hearing people bashing CDR!
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Movespeed Quints?
I stand by CDR as a pro ninja gimmick, and frozen heart/randuins/ maybe even Brutalizer makes for Nasus + Q + Sheen awesomeness :D
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Movespeed Quints are frequently hard to justify, but I still like them a lot. It's still hard to advocate people drop 6K on them when they're tricky to use and often don't do much/anything (you need to be utilizing this movespeed to make up for the early disadvantage of 97 HP or 12 ArPen or w/e else you could have in that slot, which is not something everyone understands how to do).
Completely Unrelated, Brees, did you add me on facebook?
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Nasus OP.
Was soloing top. Got food farm going especially on Q. Unfortunate events from global ults led me to die twice. Shrugged it off, kept farming. Bought randuin, brutalizer and boots. ???? Godlike streak.
What a strange champ where dying early twice not only doesn't seem to shut him down, it doesn't even seem to affect him a whole lot.
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