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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 04:34:04
September 07 2010 04:31 GMT
#16561
Hey Brees - how do you build Malzahar? I've been going:

0/9/21 flash/ghost MS quint / mpen / mp5plvl /mp5plvl

then all tanky caster items: ring-ring-sorc-rylais-banshees-frozen. Been working well in normal queue.


On September 07 2010 13:12 Atrioc wrote:
Hey so I main Vlad/Anivia and mostly play unranked with friends at Uni. I want to try out a non-mage hero, but would prefer to switch to someone that can make use of at least most of the runes I already have.

Right now I have

- MPen Reds (Full)
- APen Reds (Half Full)
- CDR/18 Blues (Full)
- Flat HP Quints (Full)
- MP5/18 Yellows (Full)
- HP/18 Yellows (Full)

Any interesting non-mage hero that can build off of these runes?


Your runes are general enough that they'll work on any champ in the game. They may not be completely ideal, but they'll do.
it's my first day
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 07 2010 04:32 GMT
#16562
On September 07 2010 12:57 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Ok, I'm having some serious issues with duo queue (normal games). Is duo queue just broken? My duo queue record is probably near 65-70% losses whereas my solo queue record is about the opposite. More recently, I have been getting 5-man premades (I asked them after games) which beat our team within 10 minutes, making for an extra-frustrating 15 minutes of smashing. My most recent duo queue record is ~30 losses in a row - yes, that's 0 wins in 30 games. I thought duo queue didn't count as premade, is this now incorrect?


if you are in duo queue, your opponents will not be a 5-man premade, they are lying if they say they are
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
September 07 2010 04:41 GMT
#16563
On September 07 2010 13:06 Khul Sadukar wrote:
How many games u played total?

It does take a ton of matches to get to the level where u don't have guaranteed feeders every game.


I've only played about 400ish games total.

On September 07 2010 13:32 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 12:57 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Ok, I'm having some serious issues with duo queue (normal games). Is duo queue just broken? My duo queue record is probably near 65-70% losses whereas my solo queue record is about the opposite. More recently, I have been getting 5-man premades (I asked them after games) which beat our team within 10 minutes, making for an extra-frustrating 15 minutes of smashing. My most recent duo queue record is ~30 losses in a row - yes, that's 0 wins in 30 games. I thought duo queue didn't count as premade, is this now incorrect?


if you are in duo queue, your opponents will not be a 5-man premade, they are lying if they say they are


Yeah that's what I read somewhere before. I just have a tiny bit of trouble believing that 5 randoms can pull off as much coordination as I've seen with some of these teams that said they were premade (the kind of stuff we do in our own premades - gank the weakest character/lane over and over to get someone fed, hide spread out in the jungle and have someone bait etc.).

It's easier for me to believe that there's some issue with the matchmaking (only within the past few days) than that another team of solo queuers are somehow not as crippled in terms of overall coordination/skill as my team. The recent matchmaking time increase bug may be a visible symptom of some more complex problem.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 07 2010 04:45 GMT
#16564
nah, it's just selective memory
you're more prone to remember a bunch of baddies that lose you 15 elo points in 10 short minutes than the leagues of average players that don't feed/excel a bunch every game

besides, ganking a feeder who clearly has no map awareness over and over isn't exactly high level play, nor is basic baiting...
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
September 07 2010 05:06 GMT
#16565
He said normal games, where anyone fights everyone.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
September 07 2010 05:07 GMT
#16566
On September 07 2010 13:45 gtrsrs wrote:
nah, it's just selective memory
you're more prone to remember a bunch of baddies that lose you 15 elo points in 10 short minutes than the leagues of average players that don't feed/excel a bunch every game

besides, ganking a feeder who clearly has no map awareness over and over isn't exactly high level play, nor is basic baiting...


I don't feel that losing 30 games in a row is selective memory. The past few days have just been particularly bad, which is the only reason I was really asking. I agree at those tricks not being high-level - especially since they don't work on anyone except bad players... which are on my team :/.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 06:09:35
September 07 2010 05:07 GMT
#16567
On September 07 2010 12:25 deth2munkies wrote:
So I don't get why nobody plays Soraka anymore. I almost never drop a game as her when I'm playing ranked and she still supports hard. Maybe not as good as Taric, but seeing as he gets banned so often...

Anyway, I've been going merc/tabi (depending on main carries of opposite team), GA, Banshees/Thornmail, Zhonya's and it works amazingly. Summoner heal + Ult negates heavy AoE (so you just wait till they blow their CDs then blow both those and get your team back to 3/4 health) and GA means if they focus you, they lose, because you can blow all your heals, die, rez, then heal again while your carries pound them.


problem is, she's seriously outshined in the support department by several heroes. janna, alistair, taric and even kayle (i kno she's not technically support) add more utility to the team than soraka does due to the nerfs of locket and riot's crusade against heal comps (which i think they blamed a significant amount on soraka)

edit: this is purely from the viewpoint from my elo btw, just thought i'd clairify that, since that issue seems to be coming up fairly often in this thread
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
September 07 2010 06:12 GMT
#16568
fun fact:
HeavOnEarth's blog is the lowest rated blog on TL.
i wonder who he pissed off that 1-starred all of them haha.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 07 2010 06:14 GMT
#16569
lol
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 06:16:54
September 07 2010 06:15 GMT
#16570
On September 07 2010 13:31 myopia wrote:
Hey Brees - how do you build Malzahar? I've been going:

0/9/21 flash/ghost MS quint / mpen / mp5plvl /mp5plvl

then all tanky caster items: ring-ring-sorc-rylais-banshees-frozen. Been working well in normal queue.



I run the same masteries and spells, I use Flat HP quints, magic pen reds, Flat armor yellows, and Scaling MR blues (I like to play shield heroes and it helps make you a little more tanky)

i only play him if i can get solo lane and farm mid with E/W combo, maxing E then Q then W.

usually go doran ring + hp pot
catalyst
merc treads
haunting guise
Rylai's
catalyst ---> banshee veil
Zhonya's

the great thing about malzahar is that you can completely nullify one person on their team without putting yourself in danger at all as long as you know when and who to ult
Brees on in
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 07 2010 06:29 GMT
#16571
ive actually been playing malz, and for a champ who i have consistently bashed and looked down upon, im going to have to say im impressed. Ive been going ignite/flash and ring, rylais, banshees against caster teams and frozen heart against physicals. I think the interesting thing about him is that he really punishes people who stray out of position, as well as being an insanely strong pusher. Gonna be glad to see the malz buffs next patch :o
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BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
September 07 2010 06:46 GMT
#16572
Anyone have any thoughts as to how much Miss Fortune will cost? I've been avoiding buying runes for a little bit since it seems inevitable that she will be 3150 or 6300. I know RIOT needs to make money, but they haven't released a 1350 champ since I started playing a couple weeks before season one.
Borsalino for life.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 07 2010 06:47 GMT
#16573
On September 07 2010 15:46 BlackHat wrote:
Anyone have any thoughts as to how much Miss Fortune will cost? I've been avoiding buying runes for a little bit since it seems inevitable that she will be 3150 or 6300. I know RIOT needs to make money, but they haven't released a 1350 champ since I started playing a couple weeks before season one.


my bet's on 3150
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
September 07 2010 06:53 GMT
#16574
They had Xin Zhao the super-easy-to-play-monkey for 3150. 1350 champs won't exist anymore.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 07:06:10
September 07 2010 06:58 GMT
#16575
On September 07 2010 15:53 BluzMan wrote:
They had Xin Zhao the super-easy-to-play-monkey for 3150. 1350 champs won't exist anymore.


That's my thoughts exactly. They definitely can't claim the prices are based on difficulty after that one.

Edit: I mean the pricing for new ones.
Borsalino for life.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 07:40:08
September 07 2010 07:38 GMT
#16576
On September 07 2010 06:35 myopia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 06:30 spinesheath wrote:
I'm still feeling a bit squishy with Singed... Any suggestions for masteries? My current favorite is 0/21/9. Guess I'll also drop the MSpd quints to see how it feels with more HP.
If I get 3 in Meditation, the MP5/L seals seem obsolete, so maybe I should try something with Veteran's Scars and 3 in Meditation, and then replace the seals with flat defense (because I have those already).
I'm using Teleport/Ghost for now, but I really miss Cleanse. It just sucks being stunned.


I'm no singed pro but I run the following without feeling squishy at all

0/9/21 <- get Strength of Spirit
cleanse/ghost
MS quint / MPen red / mp5plvl yellow / mres plvl blue

items are something like

mana crystal + two pots
merc treads / swiftness
roa
banshees
sunfire
force of nature
ga

though you've got a lot of latitude with items after your first RoA.


x/x/21 seems like a waste on Singed. Imo the CDR isn't important for him, and he isn't so reliant on summoner spells that I would go all the way down to 21. Movespeed is reasonable, but nothing below that.
Of course I am not really squishy with Singed, but I want to be able to dive even more recklessly and therefore I am looking for the sturdiest setup that doesn't hurt his usefulness.


On September 07 2010 13:41 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 13:06 Khul Sadukar wrote:
How many games u played total?

It does take a ton of matches to get to the level where u don't have guaranteed feeders every game.


I've only played about 400ish games total.

Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 13:32 gtrsrs wrote:
On September 07 2010 12:57 DefMatrixUltra wrote:
Ok, I'm having some serious issues with duo queue (normal games). Is duo queue just broken? My duo queue record is probably near 65-70% losses whereas my solo queue record is about the opposite. More recently, I have been getting 5-man premades (I asked them after games) which beat our team within 10 minutes, making for an extra-frustrating 15 minutes of smashing. My most recent duo queue record is ~30 losses in a row - yes, that's 0 wins in 30 games. I thought duo queue didn't count as premade, is this now incorrect?


if you are in duo queue, your opponents will not be a 5-man premade, they are lying if they say they are


Yeah that's what I read somewhere before. I just have a tiny bit of trouble believing that 5 randoms can pull off as much coordination as I've seen with some of these teams that said they were premade (the kind of stuff we do in our own premades - gank the weakest character/lane over and over to get someone fed, hide spread out in the jungle and have someone bait etc.).

It's easier for me to believe that there's some issue with the matchmaking (only within the past few days) than that another team of solo queuers are somehow not as crippled in terms of overall coordination/skill as my team. The recent matchmaking time increase bug may be a visible symptom of some more complex problem.


If your team is doing well, you're a decent player and get your team to follow your advice - yes it happens, although rare - then you can coordinate a crushing victory with ease. Doesn't have to be a premade.
I wonder if our enemies thought we had some sort of masterplan that included Ashe + Ez in mid when we crushed them while I had to put up with a flamer Ez...


My bet is that Miss Fortune will be 6000 IP. A lot of people will buy her for the looks, way to make money. Though I personally would prefer her to look more pirate-y.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
September 07 2010 08:17 GMT
#16577
There's nothing wrong with champs being 6300.

If you think about it, a typical person will definitely get over 3K IP in a timespan of 2 weeks. You get this much just winning a single game every day. Riot releases new champs every 2 weeks, so, if they're all 3150 or below in IP, there's exactly no stimulus for anyone to invest into Riot Points. It does make little sense from the player's perspective as well - you don't need to own EVERY champion Riot releases.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 07 2010 08:56 GMT
#16578
On September 07 2010 17:17 BluzMan wrote:
There's nothing wrong with champs being 6300.

If you think about it, a typical person will definitely get over 3K IP in a timespan of 2 weeks. You get this much just winning a single game every day. Riot releases new champs every 2 weeks, so, if they're all 3150 or below in IP, there's exactly no stimulus for anyone to invest into Riot Points. It does make little sense from the player's perspective as well - you don't need to own EVERY champion Riot releases.


GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL

in all seriousness tho i do agree with you
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BlackHat
Profile Joined April 2010
United States264 Posts
September 07 2010 09:22 GMT
#16579
On September 07 2010 17:17 BluzMan wrote:
There's nothing wrong with champs being 6300.

If you think about it, a typical person will definitely get over 3K IP in a timespan of 2 weeks. You get this much just winning a single game every day. Riot releases new champs every 2 weeks, so, if they're all 3150 or below in IP, there's exactly no stimulus for anyone to invest into Riot Points. It does make little sense from the player's perspective as well - you don't need to own EVERY champion Riot releases.


This is true, but I can't agree with there being no stimulus for rp. People like to have skins, ip boosts are great, the 7 rune pages are a good deal, and the bundles can save you a lot of time/money. And while someone may get 3k or more in two weeks, think of how much of that goes into runes. A set of good quints can set you back 6150. There are times I decided not to get a new champ because I needed runes, not just to complete my main page, but also many champs take different runes.

I'd like to pick up Malz and play him a bit but his cost is too prohibitive for a character I might not play a lot. Plus I'm discouraged from playing mages since I don't have a full set of Mpen marks. It just exacerbates the problem when every new champ is at least 3150. I didn't say they should make everyone cheap, what's wrong with a 1350 champ once in >3 months?

Meh it's not really a big deal, I was just kinda pointing it out. I think the new champ looks pretty cool and I am just sad that I can't finish my Mpen marks because I have to save a boatload of points. Q.Q
Borsalino for life.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 09:33:42
September 07 2010 09:32 GMT
#16580
Challenger for Nasus 1v1: DPS sion?

100% lifesteal and stun. I saw one today decimate a very fed olaf 1v1.
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