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rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
August 28 2010 09:09 GMT
#15061
How do I get the "chinese art" in my LoL?
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
August 28 2010 09:30 GMT
#15062
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=205938
Pretty sure thats the link
Just follow the instructions on how to "install" them
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 10:35:16
August 28 2010 09:31 GMT
#15063
Guess I'll throw out my thoughts on various Ashe builds since somehow she's getting a lot of attention, quite surprisingly. After all she's comparatively annoying to farm with early on, and relies so much on farm... Her attack animation feels so slow, but I guess that is to be expected for an Archer with that kind of rack.

So, I can imagine 5 ways to play Ashe, but I only recommend the first one currently:
1) Ghostblade + Brutalizer, APen + CDR. Build has been mentioned/discussed several times in the previous pages.
2) Bloodrazor and some other ASpd stuff. Imo other champs can do this much safer and more effectively.
3) AD/Crit: This was how I played her before I heard about 1). It takes forever to farm up enough items to become really relevant, and you can't really afford any defense.
4) Balanced AD/ASpd build with teleport to to maximize your backdoor capabilities. Other chars are better at this once again (better escapes, dps buffs etc).
5) CDR and defense/auras/whatever you want for ECA spam and being useless otherwise.

If you want to try 2), you probably could go something like DShield/whatever > Boots > Razor (for farming) > Serkers > Bloodrazor.
For 3) I suggest to not go for Infinity Edge first. If my math is correct, a Bloodthirster or Black Cleaver will yield more damage because the crit component isn't very efficient until you have enough base damage (a single 100% crit every fight doesn't fix that either). Another option would be to get 2 BFSwords and then an Infinity Edge.


EDIT: Well, obviously I am a horrible newb for using this build. Dat suicidal Morgana can't be wrong. The 0 stacks Cho neither. Besides, I was focused by 5 enemies all the time, lol.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
August 28 2010 13:03 GMT
#15064
chat down for you guys?
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 15:04:11
August 28 2010 15:02 GMT
#15065
Just fyi MissFortune's joke is "Like the twins, Shock and Awe?"
and i think her taunt is something to the effect of "Watch it kid or you'll respawn at home"

Oh and her 2nd skin is called "waterloo" but it doesnt have a model yet so I cant show you it (only the texture is in there)
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
August 28 2010 15:32 GMT
#15066
How do you deal with Morde mid as Ashe?

The mah fucker got his shield up all the time. I can't really chip away at him because his two skills hurt me much more than he
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
August 28 2010 15:43 GMT
#15067
No solo lane can ship away at mordekaiser. Call in for a gank, he doesn't even have a slow and is totally helpless when outnumbered.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 28 2010 15:48 GMT
#15068
On August 29 2010 00:32 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
How do you deal with Morde mid as Ashe?

The mah fucker got his shield up all the time. I can't really chip away at him because his two skills hurt me much more than he


Morde by himself is a scary bastard. Get him away from a creepwave. Trying to fight him with friendly creeps around is a total waste. He's just gonna fire his E, fill up his entire shield, and keep whacking away at you.

When I play Morde I *always* take a 1v2 lane. It's absurd how much control he can have once he hits level 5. You're guaranteed to push the enemy back to their tower.

The only real way to deal with him is a gank. Once he starts to run, he's dead. He's got no escape, and when there's no creeps to charge his shield on, he's surprisingly vulnerable. Xin charging out of the bushes can ruin his day easily.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
August 28 2010 15:50 GMT
#15069
all ashe can do is last hit ,_, vs morde
skyhighftw on iccup
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 28 2010 16:03 GMT
#15070
Soloside.... ur 2 for 2 as far as disconnecting in games with me!

BM!!!
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 28 2010 16:15 GMT
#15071
I got completely zoned out of my own jungle today as Warwick by a jungle Chogath. It hurts when your own champ does that to you =/.

Hi Rhavanna!
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 28 2010 16:19 GMT
#15072
In other news does anyone know what the difference is between bronze, gold, dark blue and bright silver are for these?

[image loading]
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
August 28 2010 16:32 GMT
#15073
Ashe always seemed like one of the most interesting champs to me. The few times that I played her I did the "rush infininininity edges and then booots duurrr" build (but the Brute/Ghostblade build sounds pretty sick, actually). I was always way behind in terms of farming and items, but managed to be useful despite that. Every one of Ashe's skills (except arguably Volley) is basically a utility skill - it enables everyone else on your team to be awesome.

Ashe is one of the best gankers since you can guarantee that almost any target will just stay put whether or not they have Merc Treads or Cleanse or whatever. Even if you don't do lots of damage yourself, your presence will cause kills to happen. In a teamfight situation, you can definitely tell if you're behind in items when you Volley. However, it only takes one ice arrow to turn a fight around, even on someone with Merc Treads.

So basically, my thoughts on Ashe are this: she doesn't absolutely require items to be useful (like a WW needs Bloodrazor). The design of her skills gives her a large amount of utility that can allow her to come from behind with good coordination.

The real problem with Ashe, as some have already said, is feeding the other team. No real escape mechanism, and she gets dominated in solo lane by so many. If they increased her autoattack range a little bit (and made it scale back when the slow is toggled on), I think that might help her be a little bit more viable in mid.

--------------------------

In other news, being Malphite with an Abyssal Scepter and ramming 3 people into the sky right before your Annie stun Tibbers them is the reason I play this game.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 28 2010 16:52 GMT
#15074
On August 29 2010 01:19 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
In other news does anyone know what the difference is between bronze, gold, dark blue and bright silver are for these?

[image loading]

The higher the number, the "better" the color? bronze < dark blue < gold < bright silver?

Your stats are sooo different from mine:
5258 takedowns
50700 kills
201 wins
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 28 2010 17:00 GMT
#15075
It's official: Kennen can lightning rush while silenced.
it's my first day
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 28 2010 17:08 GMT
#15076
imo the real problem with ashe is that she's just not amazing at anything... I go for a BF sword + IE/Thirster into boots build because I'd rather be pretty good but not top tier at one thing than mediocre at everything.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 28 2010 17:44 GMT
#15077
On August 29 2010 02:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
imo the real problem with ashe is that she's just not amazing at anything... I go for a BF sword + IE/Thirster into boots build because I'd rather be pretty good but not top tier at one thing than mediocre at everything.

You get Ghostblade + Brutalizer for about the same money as Infinity Edge.

Assume you got 85 base AD around level 14 or so. 25 APen from runes + masteries. Enemy has 100 Def.

With Infinity Edge you have 165 AD, 25 APen, about 30% extra damage on average from crits.
123 damage on average.

With Ghostblade + Brutalizer you have 140 AD, 60 APen, 15% extra damage on average from crits.
115 damage on average.

So your passive is slightly stronger with Infinity Edge, and you have an average of 8 damage more per attack. With Ghostblade + Brutalizer you have 25% CDR and a nice active.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Jazriel
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-28 17:53:56
August 28 2010 17:53 GMT
#15078
I still don't understand the mentality of "Hurr durr IE on Ashe." I never get IE on Ashe and I have yet to see an Ashe in a pubby unranked game come even close to how effective I am with her (and they're usually inferiour players, my Ashe is pretty good). Having flexible, low to medium costed items that slowly builds up into into higher damage; isn't that plainly superiour?

Boots + Pot
Brutalizer
(In no particular order: )
Upgraded boots
Phage -> Frozen Mallet
LW

I don't see how anyone could want IE over that.
#1 LoL player
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 28 2010 17:56 GMT
#15079
Of course, Infinity Edge has a much less useful buildup, so you really don't do much until you get it, but Brut/GB doesn't scale as well. IE + LW is still probably the best two item combination for DPS, while Brut/GB won't help nearly as much as enemies build up armor.

What would the best followup to Brut/GB?
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
August 28 2010 18:27 GMT
#15080
I can't find Barbsq's Urgot overview wahhh anyone bookmark it?
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