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AtTheFuneral
United States137 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
My smurf is ShindouNagi if you wanna see the random Eve games. Edit: On August 27 2010 04:21 AtTheFuneral wrote: does anyone know or have the math for the lvl 18 mp5 runes and why everyone uses those instead of the flat mp5 because it seems like you have more mana problems early game so the flat would be much more useful and at what point the lvl 18 runes become better? It's 28 at 18 if you have double. At like level 4-5 it starts to trump flat if I remember correctly? Edit2; On August 27 2010 04:22 Mogwai wrote: I just normal queue with my scrub friends and lose 100% of the time unless I tryhard super carry them with Kayle/Garen, but I'm always just playing some random hero I don't know how to play and they're all outclassed so we get raped, lol. I tried to random pub with people on my main with TL ppl like 5 times and every time after the queue gets past 10 I give up and hop on smurf... except for one time where we miraculously got a game at like 21 minutes and then I said f it and went on my smurf after that. lol. Screw normal queue!!!  Damned matchmaking. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:21 AtTheFuneral wrote: does anyone know or have the math for the lvl 18 mp5 runes and why everyone uses those instead of the flat mp5 because it seems like you have more mana problems early game so the flat would be much more useful and at what point the lvl 18 runes become better? ummm is multiplication really that hard? this sort of question seriously drives me nuts because I just don't get how people are so lazy that they can't take 5 seconds to just figure out when runes catch up when and then make a decision based on that. the per levels ones surpass the flats by level 5, hence, they're just better. the only /level vs. flats that have a lower level of surpassing that I know of are AD Marks where the /level ones surpass at level 4. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:20 ScDeluX wrote: That was an random answer, it's like saying, you don't know shit, I know the truth but I won't expain anything cause I'm good and your not. True I don't know nothing about unranked ratings, but it's not that hard to figure that it mostly don't mean nothing, Yes people at the top are good, no arguing, but making comparison with ranked elo seems a bit random... Except it's not random. With some exceptions, the same people that were high Elo unranked before ranked existed(so when it was for more than getting some practice in on a champ before you queue it in ranked 1700 brackets) are the same people that are rated highly in ranked. That's the comparison he is making, capped unranked = 1700+, and the 1800-1900+ unranked people being the 1500-1700 ranked players. | ||
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AtTheFuneral
United States137 Posts
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petro[void]
United States43 Posts
I'd welcome any thoughts from a more experienced player on improving my singed build or play style. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
Worst are Energy/lvl runes which pass flat ones at level 14. Who cares. This excludes Quints, don't have the values as nicely availavle for those. They generally look like they have worse /lvl versions though. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:24 Mogwai wrote: ummm is multiplication really that hard? this sort of question seriously drives me nuts because I just don't get how people are so lazy that they can't take 5 seconds to just figure out when runes catch up when and then make a decision based on that. the per levels ones surpass the flats by level 5, hence, they're just better. the only /level vs. flats that have a lower level of surpassing that I know of are AD Marks where the /level ones surpass at level 4. lawl math fail. yea its kinda stupid how early scaling mp5s get better than flats. they should normalize/fix the balance between flats and scaling so you actually have to make choices with runes. also you have to admit smash what you said to him was kind of a dick move. at least uta tried to give some explanation >_< as far as unranked goes i believe for the higher elo people, unranked is actually better than ranked as far as determining ranking because the system had more time to sort people into their proper brackets. people didnt bitch(as much) about getting people in their games that were much worse. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
I don't think it's common that you'll have invincible games with any tanks (countless times I've gone in with a stacked Udyr and still died in seconds) but Singed, with his speed boost, his crazy HP regen, and his base high armor/MR (esp. with mr per level runes) is one of the sturdiest and toughest to kill. That's all :p You can play riskier (farm deeper into enemy territory) and get away. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:29 red_ wrote: Except it's not random. With some exceptions, the same people that were high Elo unranked before ranked existed(so when it was for more than getting some practice in on a champ before you queue it in ranked 1700 brackets) are the same people that are rated highly in ranked. That's the comparison he is making, capped unranked = 1700+, and the 1800-1900+ unranked people being the 1500-1700 ranked players. Hasn't the ranking been reset on normal when ranked got out? I'm not sure but I don't think I have a ELO in normal and I was pretty high b4 season one. I used to play alot of 3v3 normal b4 ranked came out and we managed to defeat good teams, I remember beating MegaZero team once. Maybe someone can check my profile @ SaiBot and tell me if I have an unranked rating ? | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:35 ScDeluX wrote: Hasn't the ranking been reset on normal when ranked got out? I'm not sure but I don't think I have a ELO in normal and I was pretty high b4 season one. I used to play alot of 3v3 normal b4 ranked came out and we managed to defeat good teams, I remember beating MegaZero team once. Maybe someone can check my profile @ SaiBot and tell me if I have an unranked rating ? normal ranking was not reset. its just that everyone had their ranked elos "reset" to zero. ie their normal ranking didnt seed them into higher ranked ranking. there was a period of time where you could check your unranked elo by going into your adobe air client logs. but it seems they patched it out | ||
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ShoreT
United States489 Posts
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petro[void]
United States43 Posts
So does it make sense to use his high base tank stats as an excuse to pick up mostly health/mana and AP, like I do, or to bolster those stats with MR/armor items/runes? | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:20 ScDeluX wrote: That was an random answer, it's like saying, you don't know shit, I know the truth but I won't expain anything cause I'm good and your not. True I don't know nothing about unranked ratings, but it's not that hard to figure that it mostly don't mean nothing, Yes people at the top are good, no arguing, but making comparison with ranked elo seems a bit random... I gotta admit that 1200 to 1350 is a noobfest, but you admit that Eve is shit past that. End of the debate? Summoners name so I can check your profiles Southlight and Mogwai? Oh god, it's shikyo 2.0. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 27 2010 04:32 spinesheath wrote: AD/lvl seals actually surpass flat AS seals at level 3 (0.14 vs 0.05*3). Glyphs tie up at level 3: 0.09 and 0.03*3. Worst are Energy/lvl runes which pass flat ones at level 14. Who cares. This excludes Quints, don't have the values as nicely availavle for those. They generally look like they have worse /lvl versions though. yea, quints typically catch up in the 9-11 range iirc. flats are typically preferable there because you can get such a considerable bonus out of them by doing that. On August 27 2010 04:32 Orpheos wrote: lawl math fail. yea its kinda stupid how early scaling mp5s get better than flats. they should normalize/fix the balance between flats and scaling so you actually have to make choices with runes. also you have to admit smash what you said to him was kind of a dick move. at least uta tried to give some explanation >_< as far as unranked goes i believe for the higher elo people, unranked is actually better than ranked as far as determining ranking because the system had more time to sort people into their proper brackets. people didnt bitch(as much) about getting people in their games that were much worse. Where did I fail math? if anything it was typing fail because I said 'when' twice, lol. ofc it was a dick move but like, Utah tried to explain something and then he starts with his, "um, I have no frame of reference on any of this, so let me speculate about things that you know about and have just told me about despite the fact that I know nothing about them." I generally don't try to be a dick, but sometimes I can't help myself. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
Now, I guess that's taking a different meaning for the word because damn does he die easy if you stun him  Can't carry while dead.Maybe southlight should post names of the people that actually know what they're talking about on post 1 ROFL. | ||
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scDeluX
Canada1341 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
hahaha. where did shikyo go anyways. i feel like i havent seen him in awhile. oh and mogwai i was refering to the other guy's math fail. | ||
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