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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 26 2010 18:20 GMT
#14701
I always take Smite/Ghost on Eve. One or two HoGs + Sheen into pure tanking items, with a Lichbane by the end of the game hopefully (as it helps your damage output more than TriForce).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 26 2010 18:21 GMT
#14702
I don't think jungle eve works particularly well unless you have an opposing jungler as well. I think a lot of jungle eve's strength simply comes from completely buttfucking the opposing jungler.
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Nafaltar
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany302 Posts
August 26 2010 18:32 GMT
#14703
On August 27 2010 02:30 Jazriel wrote:
Advice for Evelyn? Staple items? Runes? Enemies to avoid?


Use ArP Reds and ArP or HP quints, blues and yellows are really up to you. Personally I lane her, going Ravage->Shadowwalk->Ravage->ShadowWalk->Ravage->Ult>ravage>hatespike>shadowwalk.
Item wise start with Dorans Ring and if you can expect some kills/assist go Mejas into Lichbane+potions. If you fear getting pushed early skip mejas for hitpoints into Lichbane and then take it fromt here.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
August 26 2010 18:35 GMT
#14704
Awesome, EU is up again. Everything but tutorial is disabled.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
EffectS
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium795 Posts
August 26 2010 18:39 GMT
#14705
On August 27 2010 03:21 Mogwai wrote:
I don't think jungle eve works particularly well unless you have an opposing jungler as well. I think a lot of jungle eve's strength simply comes from completely buttfucking the opposing jungler.


steal buffs with smite? :D
TEEHEE
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 26 2010 18:45 GMT
#14706
yea, steal buff, stun, ravage/HS the shit out of them.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 26 2010 18:47 GMT
#14707
On August 27 2010 03:45 Mogwai wrote:
yea, steal buff, stun, ravage/HS the shit out of them.

Smiting breaks stealth so you can't steal a buff and then stun them.
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 18:49:31
August 26 2010 18:48 GMT
#14708
Or just randomly appear and disappear around them without actually doing anything. Creepy.

Maybe type /dance as you fade out.

EDIT: so what, smite is instant. stun, smite, continue with whatever. Just a bit harder mechanically.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 26 2010 18:48 GMT
#14709
On August 27 2010 03:47 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 03:45 Mogwai wrote:
yea, steal buff, stun, ravage/HS the shit out of them.

Smiting breaks stealth so you can't steal a buff and then stun them.

Stun->smite->kill? It's not like there are global cooldowns in LoL.

Also EU is working now. I'd like to go for a couple more ARAM games...
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
August 26 2010 18:49 GMT
#14710
On August 27 2010 01:23 r33k wrote:
Quick question, how is galio 1v2 played?

I haven't seen anyone pull it off yet, His E and Q should allow him to zone enemies easily but what prevents him from being good? Lack of mana regen? Lack of an actual cc ability?


I dunno what you people complaining about mana are doing on him(spamming every skill on cooldown?) but I've 1v2'd him a bunch this week while he's free and had 0 issues past like, lvl 3. Are you not running 3/3 meditation, and starting Doran's Ring? 0/9/21 with mpen/mp5pl/mrespl/hp(I think I would actually get mp5pl quints too if I were to buy Galio and play him from here out, but that's a diff discussion).

It's not like you should be comboing every creep wave anyways, that's a great way to expose yourself because you aren't a champ that will win a 1v2 early.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
August 26 2010 18:52 GMT
#14711
On August 27 2010 03:12 Southlight wrote:

lol I smash people with Eve with 1800 unranked on my smurf with no runes and masteries. People suck at this game. People do okay with Eve in the 2300 elo range.


I don't think non-ranked ELO means anything, I don't even know what is high since nobody's never play unranked since it means nothing.

No runes and masterie, what's the point of playing without them ?

And for eve well i've been playing ranked for a while (since it got out) and still waiting to see a eve in a game.
Brood War is forever
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 26 2010 18:55 GMT
#14712
On August 27 2010 03:49 red_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 01:23 r33k wrote:
Quick question, how is galio 1v2 played?

I haven't seen anyone pull it off yet, His E and Q should allow him to zone enemies easily but what prevents him from being good? Lack of mana regen? Lack of an actual cc ability?


I dunno what you people complaining about mana are doing on him(spamming every skill on cooldown?) but I've 1v2'd him a bunch this week while he's free and had 0 issues past like, lvl 3. Are you not running 3/3 meditation, and starting Doran's Ring? 0/9/21 with mpen/mp5pl/mrespl/hp(I think I would actually get mp5pl quints too if I were to buy Galio and play him from here out, but that's a diff discussion).

It's not like you should be comboing every creep wave anyways, that's a great way to expose yourself because you aren't a champ that will win a 1v2 early.

I don't play him, it's just that even with udyr where I pretty much always give my 1v2 guy a couple kills/assists I find that Galios are always struggling, I guess I should just blame it on them being bad then.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 26 2010 18:57 GMT
#14713
On August 27 2010 03:52 ScDeluX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 03:12 Southlight wrote:

lol I smash people with Eve with 1800 unranked on my smurf with no runes and masteries. People suck at this game. People do okay with Eve in the 2300 elo range.


I don't think non-ranked ELO means anything, I don't even know what is high since nobody's never play unranked since it means nothing.

No runes and masterie, what's the point of playing without them ?

And for eve well i've been playing ranked for a while (since it got out) and still waiting to see a eve in a game.


Non-ranked elo is still a decent way of gauging relative levels, if you know what yours is (not really possible anymore). My smurf is level... 16 now was it? With like a 3:1 w/l ratio playing mostly with random low-level pugs from LiquidParty.

Unranked 2.2~2.4k is like 1.6-1.7k ranked atm (I think), and unranked 1800 would be around the 14/1500s, which is where most people posting in this thread are. Point being, that I routinely smash people at levels Eve is supposedly not viable at, and I don't even know what I'm doing with her (except for building like a tank).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 19:04:36
August 26 2010 19:03 GMT
#14714
On August 27 2010 03:57 Southlight wrote:
Non-ranked elo is still a decent way of gauging relative levels, if you know what yours is (not really possible anymore). My smurf is level... 16 now was it? With like a 3:1 w/l ratio playing mostly with random low-level pugs from LiquidParty.

Unranked 2.2~2.4k is like 1.6-1.7k ranked atm (I think), and unranked 1800 would be around the 14/1500s, which is where most people posting in this thread are. Point being, that I routinely smash people at levels Eve is supposedly not viable at, and I don't even know what I'm doing with her (except for building like a tank).


I highly doubt that any unranked = 1.7k ranked elo.

1700 is fairly high, you have to run constantly with a good team to get there. I'm pretty sure that people who are at the top of unranked are also at the top of ranked and the others are scrubs who don't play ranked.

Anyway I don't think you can make comparison like that since I don't think any good players loose their time on unranked, I mean what's the point?


On an other note still looking for some good player for 3v3 ranked (lol) 1400+ US around 17h30 EST tonight, I wanna get to 1500 soon !
Brood War is forever
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 26 2010 19:05 GMT
#14715
I'm pretty sure they're using nintendos to run the LoL servers...
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 19:07:25
August 26 2010 19:07 GMT
#14716
On August 27 2010 04:03 ScDeluX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 03:57 Southlight wrote:
Non-ranked elo is still a decent way of gauging relative levels, if you know what yours is (not really possible anymore). My smurf is level... 16 now was it? With like a 3:1 w/l ratio playing mostly with random low-level pugs from LiquidParty.

Unranked 2.2~2.4k is like 1.6-1.7k ranked atm (I think), and unranked 1800 would be around the 14/1500s, which is where most people posting in this thread are. Point being, that I routinely smash people at levels Eve is supposedly not viable at, and I don't even know what I'm doing with her (except for building like a tank).


I highly doubt that any unranked = 1.7k ranked elo.

1700 is fairly high, you have to run constantly with a good team to get there. I'm pretty sure that people who are at the top of unranked are also at the top of ranked and the others are scrubs who don't play ranked.

Anyway I don't think you can make comparison like that since I don't think any good players loose their time on unranked, I mean what's the point?


On an other note still looking for some good player for 3v3 ranked (lol) 1400+ US around 17h30 EST tonight, I wanna get to 1500 soon !

Stop talking about things you know nothing about to people who know something about them, you're embarrassing yourself.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-26 19:16:45
August 26 2010 19:08 GMT
#14717
Yes... my main unranked was 2370, and I consider myself someone who should be in the top 100 easily in ranked (~1640? I think atm, stupid HSGG). And my smurf was over 1800 last I checked, which makes me comfortable saying that when I smurf on Eve with no runes and scarce masteries and romp that it makes a lie out of people saying she's not viable at 1200 (which is like, newbie island relatively speaking).

Rather, it simply makes me say,

Suck Less.

Also I've seen some people whom are otherwise 16/17XX play Eve, usually for shits and giggles. Unfortunately it doesn't usually translate to wins at the 16/17XX level (as Mog insinuated) but anything lower and they'd demolish people. Like Yiruru/Hotshot/Dan Dinh playing Eve.

Is she a good hero? Debatable, I'd say not (unless you're playing against a hero that NEEDS the jungle and so a counter-jungle presence really fucks them up, like WW maybe). But to say she's not viable at 1200 is a joke.

Edit:
With regards to the other point; the real waste of time about unranked when you have a high unranked elo isn't the game itself, but the queue time. Oh god the imba queue-time. It is invincible.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
August 26 2010 19:16 GMT
#14718
On August 27 2010 03:35 spinesheath wrote:
Awesome, EU is up again. Everything but tutorial is disabled.


Relog when that happens, that means the general pvp.net is up but the gaming part is down, it takes like 2 more minute than the general server to come up.

On August 27 2010 04:03 ScDeluX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2010 03:57 Southlight wrote:
Non-ranked elo is still a decent way of gauging relative levels, if you know what yours is (not really possible anymore). My smurf is level... 16 now was it? With like a 3:1 w/l ratio playing mostly with random low-level pugs from LiquidParty.

Unranked 2.2~2.4k is like 1.6-1.7k ranked atm (I think), and unranked 1800 would be around the 14/1500s, which is where most people posting in this thread are. Point being, that I routinely smash people at levels Eve is supposedly not viable at, and I don't even know what I'm doing with her (except for building like a tank).


I highly doubt that any unranked = 1.7k ranked elo.

1700 is fairly high, you have to run constantly with a good team to get there. I'm pretty sure that people who are at the top of unranked are also at the top of ranked and the others are scrubs who don't play ranked.

Anyway I don't think you can make comparison like that since I don't think any good players loose their time on unranked, I mean what's the point?


On an other note still looking for some good player for 3v3 ranked (lol) 1400+ US around 17h30 EST tonight, I wanna get to 1500 soon !


I spent the last month just training my Akali in normals and while im not at the very top i'm in the 300-400 bracket consistently(currently 1587 ranked, elo capped normal). While you won't see wont see many big names there every match if you are at normal elo cap games take 10-15 minutes to be found and you will be matched with people who know how to play generally. You usually get a mix of people who just abuse the op of the month and decent players who are trying/practicing champs.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 26 2010 19:18 GMT
#14719
On August 27 2010 04:16 GranDim wrote:
I spent the last month just training my Akali in normals and while im not at the very top i'm in the 300-400 bracket consistently(currently 1587 ranked, elo capped normal). While you won't see wont see many big names there every match if you are at normal elo cap games take 10-15 minutes to be found and you will be matched with people who know how to play generally. You usually get a mix of people who just abuse the op of the month and decent players who are trying/practicing champs.


My last normal queue with main account took 20 minutes, and that's when I said screw it I'm not doing this anymore, hahah. I love the IP but it's just uggggggh makes me wanna die.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
August 26 2010 19:20 GMT
#14720
On August 27 2010 04:07 Mogwai wrote:
Stop talking about things you know nothing about to people who know something about them, you're embarrassing yourself.


That was an random answer, it's like saying, you don't know shit, I know the truth but I won't expain anything cause I'm good and your not. True I don't know nothing about unranked ratings, but it's not that hard to figure that it mostly don't mean nothing, Yes people at the top are good, no arguing, but making comparison with ranked elo seems a bit random...

On August 27 2010 04:08 Southlight wrote:
Yes... my main unranked was 2370, and I consider myself someone who should be in the top 100 easily in ranked (~1640? I think atm, stupid HSGG). And my smurf was over 1800 last I checked, which makes me comfortable saying that when I smurf on Eve with no runes and scarce masteries and romp that it makes a lie out of people saying she's not viable at 1200 (which is like, newbie island relatively speaking).

Rather, it simply makes me say,

Suck Less.

Also I've seen some people whom are otherwise 16/17XX play Eve, usually for shits and giggles. Unfortunately it doesn't usually translate to wins at the 16/17XX level (as Mog insinuated) but anything lower and they'd demolish people. Like Yiruru/Hotshot/Dan Dinh playing Eve.

Is she a good hero? Debateable, I'd say not (unless you're playing against a hero that NEEDS the jungle and so a counter-jungle presence really fucks them up, like WW maybe). But to say she's not viable at 1200 is a joke.


I gotta admit that 1200 to 1350 is a noobfest, but you admit that Eve is shit past that.

End of the debate?

Summoners name so I can check your profiles Southlight and Mogwai?
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