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On August 26 2010 09:54 Phrost wrote:
awesome
going on another losing streak.
How does one go from 1550 elo to 1370 in less than 2 weeks?
dude i went from 1450 to 1270 in 2 days... queueing with low level TLers and losing (-20 points per game), accidentally leaving one game during champ select (-20 points for leave), terrible teammates (vampiric scepter sivir + first-time singed in same game, urgot in general, picking morg/janna/soraka when the first two picks were support heroes, quitting when the kill count is something tiny like 4-7 because "the game is lost," etc etc etc etc) and now i'm stuck in a pit so deep i can't even carry my way out and back into the elo's where people know what last-hitting is. i shit you not, i was laning with an auto-attack teemo, and when i asked him to stop auto-ing and just last hit, his response was, and i quote: "okay brainiac, tell me again why i should stop killing creeps"
elo hell is real, and it's really, really offputting 
as always, looking for someone to duo with to get back to 1400+
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On August 26 2010 10:16 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 09:54 Phrost wrote:
awesome
going on another losing streak.
How does one go from 1550 elo to 1370 in less than 2 weeks? dude i went from 1450 to 1270 in 2 days... queueing with low level TLers and losing (-20 points per game), accidentally leaving one game during champ select (-20 points for leave), terrible teammates (vampiric scepter sivir + first-time singed in same game, urgot in general, picking morg/janna/soraka when the first two picks were support heroes, quitting when the kill count is something tiny like 4-7 because "the game is lost," etc etc etc etc) and now i'm stuck in a pit so deep i can't even carry my way out and back into the elo's where people know what last-hitting is. i shit you not, i was laning with an auto-attack teemo, and when i asked him to stop auto-ing and just last hit, his response was, and i quote: "okay brainiac, tell me again why i should stop killing creeps" elo hell is real, and it's really, really offputting as always, looking for someone to duo with to get back to 1400+
Dude I told you, just solo q.
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On August 26 2010 10:18 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 10:16 gtrsrs wrote:On August 26 2010 09:54 Phrost wrote:
awesome
going on another losing streak.
How does one go from 1550 elo to 1370 in less than 2 weeks? dude i went from 1450 to 1270 in 2 days... queueing with low level TLers and losing (-20 points per game), accidentally leaving one game during champ select (-20 points for leave), terrible teammates (vampiric scepter sivir + first-time singed in same game, urgot in general, picking morg/janna/soraka when the first two picks were support heroes, quitting when the kill count is something tiny like 4-7 because "the game is lost," etc etc etc etc) and now i'm stuck in a pit so deep i can't even carry my way out and back into the elo's where people know what last-hitting is. i shit you not, i was laning with an auto-attack teemo, and when i asked him to stop auto-ing and just last hit, his response was, and i quote: "okay brainiac, tell me again why i should stop killing creeps" elo hell is real, and it's really, really offputting as always, looking for someone to duo with to get back to 1400+ Dude I told you, just solo q.
wat
that's the problem. in solo queue i've got 4 baddies on my team. in duo i've got only 3, and can coordinate with someone
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guitarasaurus is a serious fella meaning serious business.
On August 26 2010 08:17 Southlight wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 08:05 Jazriel wrote:
Some more random questions:
-Is Kog'maw a "good" hero? As in is he a flexible addition to any random team and capable of pulling his own weight in lane and mid/late game? I really like him but I'm in the process of grinding the 6300 IP for him.
-What's a good way to build Masteries, Items, and Runes for Ashe?
Currently I'm level 18. I use Clairvoyance and Fortify. Today I've been messing with an 18/0/0 spread for +Damage, +Damage vs Minions, APen, CDR, etc.
I have a simple Tier 1 rune page (no point wasting IP on tier 2 when tier 3 is just a few levels away) that's set up for 6 Marks of APen, 6 Seals of HP/5/lvl, and 5 Glyphs of CDR/lvl, I combined a Tier 3 Quint of Focus for an additional ~1.6% CDR.
For items, I've been changing it up a bit, but I rely primarily on the build I use way back in Beta: Last Whisper, Brutalizer, Frozen Mallet, Boots of Mobility (I really like these) or Merc Treads, and Philosopher's Stone.
I used to open Regrowth Amulet and build Philo Stone and get boots first, starting on Brutalizer next. Lately I've been opening boots + 3x pots and I'll usually shop with around 2k or 2.5k gold, getting me Phage, more pots, and parts for Brutalizer. From here I build items based on what's happening in game, etc.
For skills, in beta the last thing I was doing with Ashe was perfecting jungle/money gain Ashe with Madred's and Plentiful Bounty. Currently, I find Hawkeye really amusing so I usually max it asap and focus on volley next for DPS and I put a few into Frost Arrow for AoE slow.
I'm mostly wondering how other Ashe players build their Rune page and use items. Ashe is a support DPS who's greatest strength is her 1:1 AD ratio on Volley, so for me I get +damage items with a bit of utility (CDR, AS, +Health). Things like increased crit, life steal, & AS seem really pointless and ineffective. Also, if I try to skip Philo Stone I end up with mana problems, I'm wondering if it's better to get an item with +Mana or just buy a Meki Pendant. Or are mana/5/lvl runes able to fix that problem? And if so, how many? Re: Kog, jury's still out in light of the new patches. Played well he's pretty nasty (Martin Looser King/Krimson) but otherwise he's severely underwhelming. My guess is he's still not that good. The only set in stone rune for Ashe is armor pen marks, primarily because them + Bruta works well with Volley (her reason for existance). Opening items seem to depend on perceived laning opponent - if you're against a nuker you want HP (doran item) but otherwise if it's a pokey fight I see most Ashe run triple movement quints and boot opening with 3 pots, or fort + 5pots for a real nuke scare. Damage items are IE, LW and Ghostblade (that I see most often), defensive items include Banshee, Thornmail, and Guardian Angel. arcerms and Ryzer (and a few others) no joke stack Tiamats and do remarkably well. martin's kogmaw is pretty sick. during our WCG game Judge Reinhold supposedly one-shot soraka with kog (1000+damage from a single spell). we couldn't figure out how it did so much but it was ridiculous. i wasn't in the game but during vent they just started screaming and laughing in disbelief as soraka just folded in half. death summary showed 1000 damage haha. can't remember exactly what happened (from their description) but i know all kog had was a dorans, IE, and a LW or something. none of us could believe it.
On August 26 2010 09:14 Brees wrote:
gotta run that pro AD kassadin like i do, dont listen to utahime obv heko played madreds kassadin and called me a baddie once. i was sad.
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maybe if you weren't such a baddie, he wouldn't have called you one. then you wouldn't have been sad.
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On August 26 2010 10:28 Mogwai wrote:
maybe if you weren't such a baddie, he wouldn't have called you one. then you wouldn't have been sad. i wish my ID was OXICLEAN.
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On August 26 2010 09:54 Phrost wrote:
now i'm stuck in a pit so deep i can't even carry my way out and back into the elo's where people know what last-hitting is. i shit you not, i was laning with an auto-attack teemo, and when i asked him to stop auto-ing and just last hit, his response was, and i quote: "okay brainiac, tell me again why i should stop killing creeps"
EPIC
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Loci vs Hotspot on own3d, did it freeze for anyone else?
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People auto attacking creeps when I lane is my biggest pet peeve :/ Especially when we could be dominating the lane, say I'm taric, and my lane partner keeps the lane at their tower 100% of the time, gg
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On August 26 2010 10:25 redtooth wrote:guitarasaurus is a serious fella meaning serious business. Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 08:17 Southlight wrote:On August 26 2010 08:05 Jazriel wrote:
Some more random questions:
-Is Kog'maw a "good" hero? As in is he a flexible addition to any random team and capable of pulling his own weight in lane and mid/late game? I really like him but I'm in the process of grinding the 6300 IP for him.
-What's a good way to build Masteries, Items, and Runes for Ashe?
Currently I'm level 18. I use Clairvoyance and Fortify. Today I've been messing with an 18/0/0 spread for +Damage, +Damage vs Minions, APen, CDR, etc.
I have a simple Tier 1 rune page (no point wasting IP on tier 2 when tier 3 is just a few levels away) that's set up for 6 Marks of APen, 6 Seals of HP/5/lvl, and 5 Glyphs of CDR/lvl, I combined a Tier 3 Quint of Focus for an additional ~1.6% CDR.
For items, I've been changing it up a bit, but I rely primarily on the build I use way back in Beta: Last Whisper, Brutalizer, Frozen Mallet, Boots of Mobility (I really like these) or Merc Treads, and Philosopher's Stone.
I used to open Regrowth Amulet and build Philo Stone and get boots first, starting on Brutalizer next. Lately I've been opening boots + 3x pots and I'll usually shop with around 2k or 2.5k gold, getting me Phage, more pots, and parts for Brutalizer. From here I build items based on what's happening in game, etc.
For skills, in beta the last thing I was doing with Ashe was perfecting jungle/money gain Ashe with Madred's and Plentiful Bounty. Currently, I find Hawkeye really amusing so I usually max it asap and focus on volley next for DPS and I put a few into Frost Arrow for AoE slow.
I'm mostly wondering how other Ashe players build their Rune page and use items. Ashe is a support DPS who's greatest strength is her 1:1 AD ratio on Volley, so for me I get +damage items with a bit of utility (CDR, AS, +Health). Things like increased crit, life steal, & AS seem really pointless and ineffective. Also, if I try to skip Philo Stone I end up with mana problems, I'm wondering if it's better to get an item with +Mana or just buy a Meki Pendant. Or are mana/5/lvl runes able to fix that problem? And if so, how many? Re: Kog, jury's still out in light of the new patches. Played well he's pretty nasty (Martin Looser King/Krimson) but otherwise he's severely underwhelming. My guess is he's still not that good. The only set in stone rune for Ashe is armor pen marks, primarily because them + Bruta works well with Volley (her reason for existance). Opening items seem to depend on perceived laning opponent - if you're against a nuker you want HP (doran item) but otherwise if it's a pokey fight I see most Ashe run triple movement quints and boot opening with 3 pots, or fort + 5pots for a real nuke scare. Damage items are IE, LW and Ghostblade (that I see most often), defensive items include Banshee, Thornmail, and Guardian Angel. arcerms and Ryzer (and a few others) no joke stack Tiamats and do remarkably well. martin's kogmaw is pretty sick. during our WCG game Judge Reinhold supposedly one-shot soraka with kog (1000+damage from a single spell). we couldn't figure out how it did so much but it was ridiculous. i wasn't in the game but during vent they just started screaming and laughing in disbelief as soraka just folded in half. death summary showed 1000 damage haha. can't remember exactly what happened (from their description) but i know all kog had was a dorans, IE, and a LW or something. none of us could believe it.
Wait how the fuck? The only spell Kog has that would ever approach 1k damage is his ult, which didn't scale with AD until yesterday. I am thoroughly confused(as I guess your team was).
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On August 26 2010 10:21 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 10:18 HazMat wrote:On August 26 2010 10:16 gtrsrs wrote:On August 26 2010 09:54 Phrost wrote:
awesome
going on another losing streak.
How does one go from 1550 elo to 1370 in less than 2 weeks? dude i went from 1450 to 1270 in 2 days... queueing with low level TLers and losing (-20 points per game), accidentally leaving one game during champ select (-20 points for leave), terrible teammates (vampiric scepter sivir + first-time singed in same game, urgot in general, picking morg/janna/soraka when the first two picks were support heroes, quitting when the kill count is something tiny like 4-7 because "the game is lost," etc etc etc etc) and now i'm stuck in a pit so deep i can't even carry my way out and back into the elo's where people know what last-hitting is. i shit you not, i was laning with an auto-attack teemo, and when i asked him to stop auto-ing and just last hit, his response was, and i quote: "okay brainiac, tell me again why i should stop killing creeps" elo hell is real, and it's really, really offputting as always, looking for someone to duo with to get back to 1400+ Dude I told you, just solo q. wat that's the problem. in solo queue i've got 4 baddies on my team. in duo i've got only 3, and can coordinate with someone
If you solo q you get better players than when you duo.
Why so serious
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so is it just me or were servers ridiculously laggy for a bit ingame
edit: yep its all over the servers.
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I hate being the team captain in solo queue. Anytime I'm the captain I feel like I have to pick so really "high tier" champion even if I suck with them.
I just wanna play Kass or Anivia
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On August 26 2010 11:25 HazMat wrote:I hate being the team captain in solo queue. Anytime I'm the captain I feel like I have to pick so really "high tier" champion even if I suck with them. I just wanna play Kass or Anivia
I agree, you WANT to be last pick.. First pick or second pick is the worst.. mostly cause you know the rest of your team is lower elo, as well as say.. you take a tank first pick, the rest of your team takes the 4 squishiest chars available.. Earlier we were against a first pick shaco, Our second and third pick were me mummy, and some ez.. The rest of the their team fills out with tanky/bulky kinds of chars..
My teams next 3 picks are Ashe/Katarina/Tristana
When I pick last, I usually fill a role, and we have atleast 1 other tank, support on the team.. Hate ranked with a passion, things havent even been getting better as elo rises -_-
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Just pick whoever you want and type /ignore ally and /ignore enemy
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On August 26 2010 11:33 myopia wrote:
Just pick SINGED and type /ignore ally and /ignore enemy
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FUUU team captain again, not even first pick so they get ezreal, the only top tier champ I'm ok with.
And I got matched up with this noob that runs heal/ignite on every champ that he plays with.
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On August 26 2010 11:16 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 10:21 gtrsrs wrote:On August 26 2010 10:18 HazMat wrote:On August 26 2010 10:16 gtrsrs wrote:On August 26 2010 09:54 Phrost wrote:
awesome
going on another losing streak.
How does one go from 1550 elo to 1370 in less than 2 weeks? dude i went from 1450 to 1270 in 2 days... queueing with low level TLers and losing (-20 points per game), accidentally leaving one game during champ select (-20 points for leave), terrible teammates (vampiric scepter sivir + first-time singed in same game, urgot in general, picking morg/janna/soraka when the first two picks were support heroes, quitting when the kill count is something tiny like 4-7 because "the game is lost," etc etc etc etc) and now i'm stuck in a pit so deep i can't even carry my way out and back into the elo's where people know what last-hitting is. i shit you not, i was laning with an auto-attack teemo, and when i asked him to stop auto-ing and just last hit, his response was, and i quote: "okay brainiac, tell me again why i should stop killing creeps" elo hell is real, and it's really, really offputting as always, looking for someone to duo with to get back to 1400+ Dude I told you, just solo q. wat that's the problem. in solo queue i've got 4 baddies on my team. in duo i've got only 3, and can coordinate with someone If you solo q you get better players than when you duo. Why so serious
this is distinctly not true
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On August 26 2010 11:36 HazMat wrote:
FUUU team captain again, not even first pick so they get ezreal, the only top tier champ I'm ok with.
And I got matched up with this noob that runs heal/ignite on every champ that he plays with.
seems pro.
Anyways, went on d2jsp to see how their LoL thread. Here's a lovely post.
Tryndamere > Needs Nerfed. Period
I don't know how you can nerf a champion past shit tier.
Oh and we have a thread up trying to convince people that Olaf belongs in a lane.
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On August 26 2010 11:48 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On August 26 2010 11:16 HazMat wrote:On August 26 2010 10:21 gtrsrs wrote:On August 26 2010 10:18 HazMat wrote:On August 26 2010 10:16 gtrsrs wrote:On August 26 2010 09:54 Phrost wrote:
awesome
going on another losing streak.
How does one go from 1550 elo to 1370 in less than 2 weeks? dude i went from 1450 to 1270 in 2 days... queueing with low level TLers and losing (-20 points per game), accidentally leaving one game during champ select (-20 points for leave), terrible teammates (vampiric scepter sivir + first-time singed in same game, urgot in general, picking morg/janna/soraka when the first two picks were support heroes, quitting when the kill count is something tiny like 4-7 because "the game is lost," etc etc etc etc) and now i'm stuck in a pit so deep i can't even carry my way out and back into the elo's where people know what last-hitting is. i shit you not, i was laning with an auto-attack teemo, and when i asked him to stop auto-ing and just last hit, his response was, and i quote: "okay brainiac, tell me again why i should stop killing creeps" elo hell is real, and it's really, really offputting as always, looking for someone to duo with to get back to 1400+ Dude I told you, just solo q. wat that's the problem. in solo queue i've got 4 baddies on my team. in duo i've got only 3, and can coordinate with someone If you solo q you get better players than when you duo. Why so serious this is distinctly not true
Actually if you're a higher level solo solo gives you better players in general IMO, when you duo queue at a high level it often "balances" your Elo by giving you a pair of lower duos and a random lowbie.
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