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Fruscainte
4596 Posts
I'd assume stuff like getting a bunch of crit runes when you don't play Tryndamere or Shaco. I'm building up ArP Marks Mp5/level Seals CDR/level Glyphs HP Quints Since I pretty much only play melee DPS chars bar nunu, but I only need to replace ArP marks with AP Marks for nunu. Nonetheless, can my aforementioned rune build work for Malphite tank as well? | ||
NonY
8751 Posts
wow someone brought up poppy while i wrote this post haha (no it didnt take me 20 minutes to write that post haha. but i came back to the thread and didnt refresh and wrote it) On August 17 2010 01:39 myopia wrote: I've never seen a Poppy do well. I'm never thrilled to see one on my team, nor do I ever feel threatened laning against her. her early laning usually isn't great. she has some good burst and stun if she can ram into a wall but it's hard to make that happen against people purposely defending against it. once she hits 6 though she gets much stronger. hit 6, go shop, pick up a buff maybe, then go tower dive someone. also i think there are a lot of bad poppies and a lot of poppies who think they're good because their opponents dont know how to play against poppy | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 17 2010 01:27 Yiruru wrote: You can cast spells with Mumu You can't do shit against Galio. Galio isn't a problem, although hes a high pick for sure since AoE CC rapes. Vlad isn't really that OP or anything, but I totally disagree with the champion concept. Heals in general are fairly broken in LoL early game because of the mana concept. If you take the DotA alternative, heroes like Enchant or Necro exhaust their mana in 2 heals, where in LoL, you can spam it indefinitely. The "Solo" metagame has gone from stuff like zoning X vs Annie to avoid a death spike to things like "Kat Spam! Nid Heal Spam! Spear Spam! Transfusion Spam!" which pretty much throws the skill ceiling out the window. Oh, and can someone explain to me why there are so many invulnerability spells in this game? I never understood the Zhonyas invulnerability. not sure I fully agree... more skill usage early gives players more variance in how they choose to play. I don't really like the direction vlad takes solo play, but the Kat/Nid/Panth/Annie glory days were very interesting IMO. there was a lot of ability usage, but that just meant there was a lot of variety in the play and plenty of decisions to make which led to a very skill intensive and exciting 1v1 early game. what I hate about vlad is just the never ending healing. he's just going to grind you down and with the range on it and no cost to limit it, there's pretty much nothing anyone can do to stop it. On August 17 2010 01:32 myopia wrote: meh after wasting 10k IP on bad runes, I recommend everyone to get 9 mp5plvl yellows and blues before they decide on anything else. They're cheap and awesome. this this this this this this this this this this | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 17 2010 01:48 Mogwai wrote: he's just going to grind you down and with the range on it and no cost to limit it, there's pretty much nothing anyone can do to stop it. I play Kassadin. Boom! But Kassadin is kinda also victim to the "spam Q and win" disease. Though I don't think he's anyways near as ezwin as most other spam heroes. Edit: On August 17 2010 00:25 Mogwai wrote: Oh well, they're baddies and we should expect them to suck whereas I'm the fucking man, so I need to play perfectly (honestly, I'm not joking, this is pretty much how you have to approach solo/duo queue, IMO). live and learn I guess, lol. Incidentally this is kinda what I mentioned on Skype isn't it :p I feel like when you hit top X you automatically need to have confidence in yourself, even an inflated egotistical one, because you need to be able to carry through bad teammates and you have to be able to win every matchup and you have to be able to trudge through almost-unavoidable losses >_< | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On August 17 2010 01:54 Mogwai wrote: well, that's what I hear people bitching about vlad saying, so I was just kinda guessing. I barely solo anymore, lol, and when I do, it's garen solo top which is T_T vs. vlad's stupid tricksies. I only play the most retarded laning hero in the game so I dunno, I definitely think it's annoying how much heal/spam he has, though, so I can see him demolishing most ranged DPS etc. His hero design is just stupid, sigh. I dunno what's with Riot and these self-replenishing heroes. Garen's passive is annoying enough, why're they giving so many heroes base staying power? | ||
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
On August 17 2010 01:57 Southlight wrote: I only play the most retarded laning hero in the game so I dunno, I definitely think it's annoying how much heal/spam he has, though, so I can see him demolishing most ranged DPS etc. His hero design is just stupid, sigh. I dunno what's with Riot and these self-replenishing heroes. Garen's passive is annoying enough, why're they giving so many heroes base staying power? This exactly. Spammable Spells are fine. Spammable Heals are not. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
By contrast when I'm against like, Nidalee it's just *rolls eyes* stop healing. | ||
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Spyfire242
United States715 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
edit oh man why does Nony have to stream SC2 while I'm at work :| | ||
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Spyfire242
United States715 Posts
On August 17 2010 02:18 Mogwai wrote: Mord is the least scary damage tank out there IMO. I'm considerably more scared of Cho and NuNu TBH. His survivability is so good >.< but yea I know I was only joking really, I just cant harass him effectively whenever I lane against him and he can tower dive so early its annoying. >.> | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1609/44538628.jpg) God i hate when such games happen - i stole golem from shaco, ganked every lane, when i got lvl 7 they all had 0/1 except for 4/1 ez (he got lane vs janna/shaco and killed shaco 3 times by then lol -.-) and of course we lose TT We need "LoL whining thread" | ||
Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
Just as a tank there are better champs, and as far as damage is concerned, there are far better champs. I'll often rack up kills and towers early/mid game as Morde, only to find myself becoming useless late game. Damn can he farm though. <3 | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On August 17 2010 01:39 myopia wrote: I've never seen a Poppy do well. I'm never thrilled to see one on my team, nor do I ever feel threatened laning against her. On August 17 2010 01:36 Orpheos wrote: one char that i def think has great design, but is kinda hard to learn and isnt really good enough is poppy. i mean the charge into a wall for stun is a really cool concept. and her ult is hilarious. i watched HSGG maybe yesterday? ult some random tank and proceed to 1v5 taking down like 3 of them before he died. im surprised he didnt do it more. i was talking about cool design not about whether it was balanced. i guess hard to learn isnt right. i just feel lik if you dont use the ult right in a teamfight, and your team isnt working with you well, she just kinda dies. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
On August 17 2010 02:33 Haemonculus wrote: Set Morde up in a 1v2 lane and he's bloody unstoppable. Almost guaranteed to take down a tower early by himself. I get early double-kills with him fairly often. He's amazingly durable midgame and still very powerful by the start of late game. Just as a tank there are better champs, and as far as damage is concerned, there are far better champs. I'll often rack up kills and towers early/mid game as Morde, only to find myself becoming useless late game. Damn can he farm though. <3 Late game Mord's ult actually becomes pretty amazing. Takes out 1/3 of my health despite FoN. Everything else about him falls off, though - unless he gets their fed DPS carry as a pet. Also, re: poppy, you need a team that can handle basically a 4v4 situation or at least survive until you've flattened the enemy carry. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On August 17 2010 02:25 Kaniol wrote: God i hate when such games happen - i stole golem from shaco, ganked every lane, when i got lvl 7 they all had 0/1 except for 4/1 ez (he got lane vs janna/shaco and killed shaco 3 times by then lol -.-) and of course we lose TT We need "LoL whining thread" How does one jungle as ap shaco? | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
JitB? I dunno, I always get one point in deceive and shiv and then level JITB in order to jungle faster...and if I can land the fear in a gank, that's pretty awesome too. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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