Also I always feel like if they'd just kept helping we could have won 2v3...
EDIT: Mogwai, is picking order really based on ELO? I haven't noticed a correlation, but I haven't really been checking.
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
August 16 2010 14:29 GMT
#12401
Also I always feel like if they'd just kept helping we could have won 2v3... EDIT: Mogwai, is picking order really based on ELO? I haven't noticed a correlation, but I haven't really been checking. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
August 16 2010 14:29 GMT
#12402
I happily defer to whoever I'm queueing with if they want a high pick to try to get a hero (like EzPz and Soraka). I'll QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ if I defer and end up having Kass taken though. Edit: Picking order is definitely by Elo, but I'm not sure how they deal with Duo queue. Whenever I duo with Mog we're usually picks 1 and 3, but we're almost always top 2 in Elo on our team, so it doesn't seem to make much sense. | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
August 16 2010 14:32 GMT
#12403
On August 16 2010 22:41 Southlight wrote: i'm even simpler haha. i just want my team to not die while i solo an inhib before 20 minutes.Show nested quote + If/when you Mumu with me I just want you to make sure I'm there before you blow your ult ;;On August 16 2010 22:40 Mogwai wrote: On August 16 2010 15:23 redtooth wrote: On August 16 2010 14:22 Mogwai wrote: because that second game i had two towers down before lvl 11. nidalee beating kayle, looool. i was seriously about to rage at you after all those ridiculous fights. seriously, just let me afk-farm in peace without having to worry about you guys.On August 16 2010 13:33 redtooth wrote: i'm used to playing not-tanks so when i play amumu, I frequently follow my teammates doing something stupid because I'm not used to being the tank who needs to hold onto his ult always, no matter how badly you wanna try to save someone from being a retard, fml.On August 16 2010 13:09 BlackHat wrote: let's do more of this.So I was playing Kayle and Shaco showed up for a gank. I used heal and invincible to get away. He proceeds to send in the clone to tower dive and the turret promptly blows it up, killing me with the damn explosion. fml i was in duo que with smash and someone picked nidalee. my kat runes weren't available. fml. edit: we got qued with vman on our team. fml. I still manage to win though. No idea how i get away with throwing so many mummy ults away. zzzz, I won another mediocre Amumu game after that. I blew my ult twice trying to save Trynd from 3 people, only to have him turn around and die and afterwards be like, "well mummy used his ult" it made me T_T. I guess when my team's competent I feel comfy with tanks, but when they're doing stupid shit, I have no idea how to try to pull them back into the game. Then when you use your ult I just want you to try your best to land it on their squishies, so that I can nail them. Those are the only two things I want. On August 16 2010 21:52 Iplaythings wrote: my premade sometimes bans morgana if we don't think we can get her. i used to think she sucked and was roleless but turns out she's quite a game-changer. metagame right now is support casters and off-tanks.Am I seriously the only who bans morgana frequently? edit: they need to do something about pick-order and Elo, especially in 5man premades. i usually end up with 2nd pick in premade and i REALLY don't need it (odds of nidalee/kat being picked: 1% if they don't know its me). AoN raped me though by counter-picking nid (daaaarn you treeeskimooooo) and running tanky comp though. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 14:33 GMT
#12404
On August 16 2010 23:29 Tooplark wrote: I always feel terrible when someone saves me and I keep attacking them. But I play Olaf, so I guess it's in character. Also I always feel like if they'd just kept helping we could have won 2v3... EDIT: Mogwai, is picking order really based on ELO? I haven't noticed a correlation, but I haven't really been checking. I think there's a correlation. As far as I can tell, pick ordering is in order of ELO with some weirdness when duo queueing (party leader always picks before other player). | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 14:34 GMT
#12405
On August 16 2010 23:32 redtooth wrote: Show nested quote + i'm even simpler haha. i just want my team to not die while i solo an inhib before 20 minutes.On August 16 2010 22:41 Southlight wrote: On August 16 2010 22:40 Mogwai wrote: If/when you Mumu with me I just want you to make sure I'm there before you blow your ult ;;On August 16 2010 15:23 redtooth wrote: On August 16 2010 14:22 Mogwai wrote: because that second game i had two towers down before lvl 11. nidalee beating kayle, looool. i was seriously about to rage at you after all those ridiculous fights. seriously, just let me afk-farm in peace without having to worry about you guys.On August 16 2010 13:33 redtooth wrote: i'm used to playing not-tanks so when i play amumu, I frequently follow my teammates doing something stupid because I'm not used to being the tank who needs to hold onto his ult always, no matter how badly you wanna try to save someone from being a retard, fml.On August 16 2010 13:09 BlackHat wrote: let's do more of this.So I was playing Kayle and Shaco showed up for a gank. I used heal and invincible to get away. He proceeds to send in the clone to tower dive and the turret promptly blows it up, killing me with the damn explosion. fml i was in duo que with smash and someone picked nidalee. my kat runes weren't available. fml. edit: we got qued with vman on our team. fml. I still manage to win though. No idea how i get away with throwing so many mummy ults away. zzzz, I won another mediocre Amumu game after that. I blew my ult twice trying to save Trynd from 3 people, only to have him turn around and die and afterwards be like, "well mummy used his ult" it made me T_T. I guess when my team's competent I feel comfy with tanks, but when they're doing stupid shit, I have no idea how to try to pull them back into the game. Then when you use your ult I just want you to try your best to land it on their squishies, so that I can nail them. Those are the only two things I want. but diving is so fun! | ||
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
August 16 2010 14:35 GMT
#12406
On August 16 2010 23:33 Mogwai wrote: haven't solo'd too much but in 5mans the party leader picks first and the rest is based on Elo.Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 23:29 Tooplark wrote: I always feel terrible when someone saves me and I keep attacking them. But I play Olaf, so I guess it's in character. Also I always feel like if they'd just kept helping we could have won 2v3... EDIT: Mogwai, is picking order really based on ELO? I haven't noticed a correlation, but I haven't really been checking. I think there's a correlation. As far as I can tell, pick ordering is in order of ELO with some weirdness when duo queueing (party leader always picks before other player). | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
August 16 2010 14:37 GMT
#12407
On August 16 2010 23:32 redtooth wrote:i'm even simpler haha. i just want my team to not die while i solo an inhib before 20 minutes. Hahah, I prefer it if my team doesn't fail, too, but sometimes that's not going to happen, so I just move on and try to 2v5 the other team. Most of the time it works if my team hasn't fed enough (like that Garen feeding top vs lilballz' team, I still feel like if Smash hadn't accidentally finished Golem and then hadn't blown ult without me for about 20 straight minutes we would have still won despite top and bottom epic failing T_T That golem steal was pretty funny, and a bit sad, hahahah). It's why I may have sounded unnecessarily harsh on Smash but, as the top two elo players on the team I felt like the burden was on us to carry and overcome fail teammates... and we just didn't play it perfectly enough to do it. I'll also always be stuck wondering if I should have ganked more than I did, but I was afraid of the Ezreal getting farmed up every time I left the lane, etc. etc. Edit: Party leader always picks first; my question is what determines 2nd and 3rd pick, because with 1640 I shouldn't be picking third (theoretically) after some 1550 scrub. Obviously I'm not gonna complain, and more-often-than-not I'm very happy when there's people picking 2nd and 3rd, relegating me lower on the pick chart (I hate when we're top 2 pick cuz it means our teammates are usually gonna blow) but I dunno. I've also randomly seen some 1660s pick 4th. It's bizarre. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 14:41 GMT
#12408
On August 16 2010 23:37 Southlight wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 23:32 redtooth wrote:i'm even simpler haha. i just want my team to not die while i solo an inhib before 20 minutes. Hahah, I prefer it if my team doesn't fail, too, but sometimes that's not going to happen, so I just move on and try to 2v5 the other team. Most of the time it works if my team hasn't fed enough (like that Garen feeding top vs lilballz' team, I still feel like if Smash hadn't accidentally finished Golem and then hadn't blown ult without me for about 20 straight minutes we would have still won despite top and bottom epic failing T_T That golem steal was pretty funny, and a bit sad, hahahah). It's why I may have sounded unnecessarily harsh on Smash but, as the top two elo players on the team I felt like the burden was on us to carry and overcome fail teammates... and we just didn't play it perfectly enough to do it. I'll also always be stuck wondering if I should have ganked more than I did, but I was afraid of the Ezreal getting farmed up every time I left the lane, etc. etc. I started running from gol before I stopped crying T_T won't happen again :p | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
August 16 2010 14:41 GMT
#12409
It feels like if I host a dual-queue, I'm 95% of the time going to have bans/first pick, which I hate. If I'm the invitee in a dual-queue, I'm usually last or 2nd to last. Who knows how that system works. Having first pick though is horrid for me. I much prefer to fill out our team and/or react to the enemy team. All magic damage? Kassadin. All melee/physical champs? Jax. All squishies? Akali. Team looking like a bunch of tards? Pub-stomp style Kayle. Etc etc etc... | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
August 16 2010 14:43 GMT
#12410
On August 16 2010 23:41 Mogwai wrote: I started running from gol before I stopped crying T_T won't happen again :p Hahahah I didn't even really care, I also didn't think it'd be a big deal until we lost the fight as soon as my mana dropped out, THEN I went fuck, what if :[ I don't usually have golem at that point in a game so I didn't really pay it much attention. It's why I said "just make it worthwhile," but unfoooooooortunaaaaaaaatelyyyyyyyyy... :D | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
August 16 2010 14:44 GMT
#12411
On August 16 2010 23:41 Haemonculus wrote: It feels like if I host a dual-queue, I'm 95% of the time going to have bans/first pick, which I hate. If I'm the invitee in a dual-queue, I'm usually last or 2nd to last. Who knows how that system works. Party leader always has first pick of the party. Let the other person invite, that way you have a chance of dropping in the order. | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
August 16 2010 14:46 GMT
#12412
On August 16 2010 23:44 Southlight wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 23:41 Haemonculus wrote: It feels like if I host a dual-queue, I'm 95% of the time going to have bans/first pick, which I hate. If I'm the invitee in a dual-queue, I'm usually last or 2nd to last. Who knows how that system works. Party leader always has first pick of the party. Let the other person invite, that way you have a chance of dropping in the order. Oh, always, lol. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
August 16 2010 14:55 GMT
#12413
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 15:12 GMT
#12414
On August 16 2010 23:43 Southlight wrote: Show nested quote + On August 16 2010 23:41 Mogwai wrote: I started running from gol before I stopped crying T_T won't happen again :p Hahahah I didn't even really care, I also didn't think it'd be a big deal until we lost the fight as soon as my mana dropped out, THEN I went fuck, what if :[ I don't usually have golem at that point in a game so I didn't really pay it much attention. It's why I said "just make it worthwhile," but unfoooooooortunaaaaaaaatelyyyyyyyyy... :D lol, what am I gonna do with full mana blue buff mummy!? I mean, I cried the whole fight, spammed everything when I could, but it was a clear case of an impending team fight and a low mana carry-kass who needs blue buff that I just happened to accidentally steal by QQing. It's not really like mummy eats through his whole mana pool in fights and that's why he runs out of gas. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
August 16 2010 15:19 GMT
#12415
Edit: Sadly, their Chogath carried them in that game far more than the Udyr, and he was by far the most devastatingly scary hero on their team Which is really weird because it's freakin Chogath. How the hell does Wit's End Chogath even work anyways, wtffffffff. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 15:25 GMT
#12416
Oh well, they're baddies and we should expect them to suck whereas I'm the fucking man, so I need to play perfectly (honestly, I'm not joking, this is pretty much how you have to approach solo/duo queue, IMO). live and learn I guess, lol. EDIT: Wit's end Cho' Gath feeds off of our terrible solo top to the point where it really doesn't even matter what he buys. Who was he even against? | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
August 16 2010 15:26 GMT
#12417
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Nebula
England780 Posts
August 16 2010 15:27 GMT
#12418
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 15:28 GMT
#12419
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
August 16 2010 15:30 GMT
#12420
Edit: The real sad thing is how our Garen lost to a Chogath that rushed Wit's End. | ||
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