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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 14:29:55
August 16 2010 14:29 GMT
#12401
I always feel terrible when someone saves me and I keep attacking them. But I play Olaf, so I guess it's in character.
Also I always feel like if they'd just kept helping we could have won 2v3...

EDIT: Mogwai, is picking order really based on ELO? I haven't noticed a correlation, but I haven't really been checking.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 14:31:07
August 16 2010 14:29 GMT
#12402
I almost always get first pick and I say fuck you all and take Kassadin anyways. So... fuck guilt. :D

I happily defer to whoever I'm queueing with if they want a high pick to try to get a hero (like EzPz and Soraka). I'll QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ if I defer and end up having Kass taken though.

Edit:
Picking order is definitely by Elo, but I'm not sure how they deal with Duo queue. Whenever I duo with Mog we're usually picks 1 and 3, but we're almost always top 2 in Elo on our team, so it doesn't seem to make much sense.
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 14:34:34
August 16 2010 14:32 GMT
#12403
On August 16 2010 22:41 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 22:40 Mogwai wrote:
On August 16 2010 15:23 redtooth wrote:
On August 16 2010 14:22 Mogwai wrote:
On August 16 2010 13:33 redtooth wrote:
On August 16 2010 13:09 BlackHat wrote:
So I was playing Kayle and Shaco showed up for a gank. I used heal and invincible to get away. He proceeds to send in the clone to tower dive and the turret promptly blows it up, killing me with the damn explosion. fml
let's do more of this.
i was in duo que with smash and someone picked nidalee. my kat runes weren't available. fml.

edit: we got qued with vman on our team. fml.
i'm used to playing not-tanks so when i play amumu, I frequently follow my teammates doing something stupid because I'm not used to being the tank who needs to hold onto his ult always, no matter how badly you wanna try to save someone from being a retard, fml.

I still manage to win though. No idea how i get away with throwing so many mummy ults away.
because that second game i had two towers down before lvl 11. nidalee beating kayle, looool. i was seriously about to rage at you after all those ridiculous fights. seriously, just let me afk-farm in peace without having to worry about you guys.

zzzz, I won another mediocre Amumu game after that. I blew my ult twice trying to save Trynd from 3 people, only to have him turn around and die and afterwards be like, "well mummy used his ult" it made me T_T. I guess when my team's competent I feel comfy with tanks, but when they're doing stupid shit, I have no idea how to try to pull them back into the game.
If/when you Mumu with me I just want you to make sure I'm there before you blow your ult ;;

Then when you use your ult I just want you to try your best to land it on their squishies, so that I can nail them.

Those are the only two things I want.
i'm even simpler haha. i just want my team to not die while i solo an inhib before 20 minutes.
On August 16 2010 21:52 Iplaythings wrote:
Am I seriously the only who bans morgana frequently?
my premade sometimes bans morgana if we don't think we can get her. i used to think she sucked and was roleless but turns out she's quite a game-changer. metagame right now is support casters and off-tanks.

edit: they need to do something about pick-order and Elo, especially in 5man premades. i usually end up with 2nd pick in premade and i REALLY don't need it (odds of nidalee/kat being picked: 1% if they don't know its me). AoN raped me though by counter-picking nid (daaaarn you treeeskimooooo) and running tanky comp though.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 14:33 GMT
#12404
On August 16 2010 23:29 Tooplark wrote:
I always feel terrible when someone saves me and I keep attacking them. But I play Olaf, so I guess it's in character.
Also I always feel like if they'd just kept helping we could have won 2v3...

EDIT: Mogwai, is picking order really based on ELO? I haven't noticed a correlation, but I haven't really been checking.

I think there's a correlation. As far as I can tell, pick ordering is in order of ELO with some weirdness when duo queueing (party leader always picks before other player).
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 14:34 GMT
#12405
On August 16 2010 23:32 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 22:41 Southlight wrote:
On August 16 2010 22:40 Mogwai wrote:
On August 16 2010 15:23 redtooth wrote:
On August 16 2010 14:22 Mogwai wrote:
On August 16 2010 13:33 redtooth wrote:
On August 16 2010 13:09 BlackHat wrote:
So I was playing Kayle and Shaco showed up for a gank. I used heal and invincible to get away. He proceeds to send in the clone to tower dive and the turret promptly blows it up, killing me with the damn explosion. fml
let's do more of this.
i was in duo que with smash and someone picked nidalee. my kat runes weren't available. fml.

edit: we got qued with vman on our team. fml.
i'm used to playing not-tanks so when i play amumu, I frequently follow my teammates doing something stupid because I'm not used to being the tank who needs to hold onto his ult always, no matter how badly you wanna try to save someone from being a retard, fml.

I still manage to win though. No idea how i get away with throwing so many mummy ults away.
because that second game i had two towers down before lvl 11. nidalee beating kayle, looool. i was seriously about to rage at you after all those ridiculous fights. seriously, just let me afk-farm in peace without having to worry about you guys.

zzzz, I won another mediocre Amumu game after that. I blew my ult twice trying to save Trynd from 3 people, only to have him turn around and die and afterwards be like, "well mummy used his ult" it made me T_T. I guess when my team's competent I feel comfy with tanks, but when they're doing stupid shit, I have no idea how to try to pull them back into the game.
If/when you Mumu with me I just want you to make sure I'm there before you blow your ult ;;

Then when you use your ult I just want you to try your best to land it on their squishies, so that I can nail them.

Those are the only two things I want.
i'm even simpler haha. i just want my team to not die while i solo an inhib before 20 minutes.

but diving is so fun!
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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
August 16 2010 14:35 GMT
#12406
On August 16 2010 23:33 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 23:29 Tooplark wrote:
I always feel terrible when someone saves me and I keep attacking them. But I play Olaf, so I guess it's in character.
Also I always feel like if they'd just kept helping we could have won 2v3...

EDIT: Mogwai, is picking order really based on ELO? I haven't noticed a correlation, but I haven't really been checking.

I think there's a correlation. As far as I can tell, pick ordering is in order of ELO with some weirdness when duo queueing (party leader always picks before other player).
haven't solo'd too much but in 5mans the party leader picks first and the rest is based on Elo.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 14:42:18
August 16 2010 14:37 GMT
#12407
On August 16 2010 23:32 redtooth wrote:i'm even simpler haha. i just want my team to not die while i solo an inhib before 20 minutes.


Hahah, I prefer it if my team doesn't fail, too, but sometimes that's not going to happen, so I just move on and try to 2v5 the other team. Most of the time it works if my team hasn't fed enough (like that Garen feeding top vs lilballz' team, I still feel like if Smash hadn't accidentally finished Golem and then hadn't blown ult without me for about 20 straight minutes we would have still won despite top and bottom epic failing T_T That golem steal was pretty funny, and a bit sad, hahahah). It's why I may have sounded unnecessarily harsh on Smash but, as the top two elo players on the team I felt like the burden was on us to carry and overcome fail teammates... and we just didn't play it perfectly enough to do it. I'll also always be stuck wondering if I should have ganked more than I did, but I was afraid of the Ezreal getting farmed up every time I left the lane, etc. etc.

Edit:
Party leader always picks first; my question is what determines 2nd and 3rd pick, because with 1640 I shouldn't be picking third (theoretically) after some 1550 scrub. Obviously I'm not gonna complain, and more-often-than-not I'm very happy when there's people picking 2nd and 3rd, relegating me lower on the pick chart (I hate when we're top 2 pick cuz it means our teammates are usually gonna blow) but I dunno.

I've also randomly seen some 1660s pick 4th. It's bizarre.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 14:41 GMT
#12408
On August 16 2010 23:37 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 23:32 redtooth wrote:i'm even simpler haha. i just want my team to not die while i solo an inhib before 20 minutes.


Hahah, I prefer it if my team doesn't fail, too, but sometimes that's not going to happen, so I just move on and try to 2v5 the other team. Most of the time it works if my team hasn't fed enough (like that Garen feeding top vs lilballz' team, I still feel like if Smash hadn't accidentally finished Golem and then hadn't blown ult without me for about 20 straight minutes we would have still won despite top and bottom epic failing T_T That golem steal was pretty funny, and a bit sad, hahahah). It's why I may have sounded unnecessarily harsh on Smash but, as the top two elo players on the team I felt like the burden was on us to carry and overcome fail teammates... and we just didn't play it perfectly enough to do it. I'll also always be stuck wondering if I should have ganked more than I did, but I was afraid of the Ezreal getting farmed up every time I left the lane, etc. etc.

I started running from gol before I stopped crying

T_T

won't happen again :p
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 16 2010 14:41 GMT
#12409
I prefer to have last pick honestly. I play all these unusual champs so it's not like my favorites ever get banned, and rarely are they picked by the enemy team.

It feels like if I host a dual-queue, I'm 95% of the time going to have bans/first pick, which I hate. If I'm the invitee in a dual-queue, I'm usually last or 2nd to last. Who knows how that system works.

Having first pick though is horrid for me. I much prefer to fill out our team and/or react to the enemy team. All magic damage? Kassadin. All melee/physical champs? Jax. All squishies? Akali. Team looking like a bunch of tards? Pub-stomp style Kayle. Etc etc etc...
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 16 2010 14:43 GMT
#12410
On August 16 2010 23:41 Mogwai wrote:
I started running from gol before I stopped crying

T_T

won't happen again :p


Hahahah I didn't even really care, I also didn't think it'd be a big deal until we lost the fight as soon as my mana dropped out, THEN I went fuck, what if :[ I don't usually have golem at that point in a game so I didn't really pay it much attention. It's why I said "just make it worthwhile," but unfoooooooortunaaaaaaaatelyyyyyyyyy...

:D
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 16 2010 14:44 GMT
#12411
On August 16 2010 23:41 Haemonculus wrote:
It feels like if I host a dual-queue, I'm 95% of the time going to have bans/first pick, which I hate. If I'm the invitee in a dual-queue, I'm usually last or 2nd to last. Who knows how that system works.


Party leader always has first pick of the party. Let the other person invite, that way you have a chance of dropping in the order.
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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 16 2010 14:46 GMT
#12412
On August 16 2010 23:44 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 23:41 Haemonculus wrote:
It feels like if I host a dual-queue, I'm 95% of the time going to have bans/first pick, which I hate. If I'm the invitee in a dual-queue, I'm usually last or 2nd to last. Who knows how that system works.


Party leader always has first pick of the party. Let the other person invite, that way you have a chance of dropping in the order.

Oh, always, lol.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 16 2010 14:55 GMT
#12413
My problem with first pick is there are only a few firstpick heroes I can play vaguely well - I play a mediocre heimerdinger, a barely acceptable Morgana, or a Shaco Shaco. I definitely would rather go "oh hey lots of cc but not enough killiness OLAAAAF" or "hmm our team needs a jungler, like OLAAAAF" or "screw this, I win when I pick OLAAAAF"
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 15:12 GMT
#12414
On August 16 2010 23:43 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 23:41 Mogwai wrote:
I started running from gol before I stopped crying

T_T

won't happen again :p


Hahahah I didn't even really care, I also didn't think it'd be a big deal until we lost the fight as soon as my mana dropped out, THEN I went fuck, what if :[ I don't usually have golem at that point in a game so I didn't really pay it much attention. It's why I said "just make it worthwhile," but unfoooooooortunaaaaaaaatelyyyyyyyyy...

:D

lol, what am I gonna do with full mana blue buff mummy!?

I mean, I cried the whole fight, spammed everything when I could, but it was a clear case of an impending team fight and a low mana carry-kass who needs blue buff that I just happened to accidentally steal by QQing. It's not really like mummy eats through his whole mana pool in fights and that's why he runs out of gas.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 15:20:48
August 16 2010 15:19 GMT
#12415
Well, Turkey likes when Amumu takes blue for faster ult CD, but yeah. I mean in retrospect it sucks, but I honestly didn't really care, until after the fight when I realized it probably would have won the fight (and possibly the game), hahah. After that it was a chain of unfortunate events that snowballed their team ahead of us, and the sad thing is I still felt like we had a chance (despite redtooth laughing about lilballz 1v4ing us... except he really didn't, it might have looked like it because we ignored him though). Nyeh.

Edit:
Sadly, their Chogath carried them in that game far more than the Udyr, and he was by far the most devastatingly scary hero on their team Which is really weird because it's freakin Chogath. How the hell does Wit's End Chogath even work anyways, wtffffffff.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 15:26:11
August 16 2010 15:25 GMT
#12416
amumu likes blue early, but he really doesn't need it for teamfighting. That was early enough that I still would've liked having blue under normal circumstances, but it was kinda the nail in the coffin mistake because of how obvious the teamfight at mid was. It sucks because the other big mistakes were pretty much out of our control...

Oh well, they're baddies and we should expect them to suck whereas I'm the fucking man, so I need to play perfectly (honestly, I'm not joking, this is pretty much how you have to approach solo/duo queue, IMO). live and learn I guess, lol.

EDIT: Wit's end Cho' Gath feeds off of our terrible solo top to the point where it really doesn't even matter what he buys. Who was he even against?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 16 2010 15:26 GMT
#12417
Our fail Garen that caused you to blow ult like 5 times and kept bitching about your ult in the opposite manner from which the rest of our team was bitching, LOL.
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Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
August 16 2010 15:27 GMT
#12418
I want to queue dodge every time i see a Yi in my team t_t. 0-3 in ranked today so far. Fuck solo queue
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 16 2010 15:28 GMT
#12419
wasn't our garen top solo now that I think about it? like, cho rushed Wit's End... VS A NON-MANA USER. rofl
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 15:31:00
August 16 2010 15:30 GMT
#12420
Pretty sure he rushed it cuz of me and you. Case in point he killed you twice, and during teamfights he was such a big threat to me that I had no choice but to snare him and keep him away and focus on avoiding all his crap.

Edit:
The real sad thing is how our Garen lost to a Chogath that rushed Wit's End.
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