On August 16 2010 13:42 Khul Sadukar wrote: I hate shaco.
Is suppression working on WW yet? I didn't see any nerfs to him. Hard to tell if ppl cleanse out of ult too as it seems there's many escapes to it. Seems to do jack shit half the time.
i don't think ww needs buffs, he's got the fastest jungling power and a well played ww can win lots of games. cleanse got nerfed so i think he should be fine
On August 16 2010 16:10 G0dly wrote: if you're jungle mumu and there's a jungle shaco who's denying you exp with constant jitbs everywhere and ganks, what's the proper response?
I warded both buffs, dragon, a few bushes, etc. but I still got ganked at lvl 2, denied golem/lizard/dragon etc.
if I ask my team to help, they're losing exp/gold as well, so I dunno
should I just quit and lane?
How does he have time to run around to all those places and not be screwing himself over? how would a jitb stop you from killing creeps? A lot of what you say doesn't make sense. If you don't want to get ganked, don't get low on your hp.
in this particular game, I think he started at his lizard, then ganked me right as I was doing my wolves after golem. I had to go b.
he then took the wolves, and when I went to my lizard I found a jitb there. I then proceed to get ganked doing small golems, died. bleh
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
On August 16 2010 18:30 NB wrote: for twitch and teemo, ap or ad?
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
twitch = ad
teemo : meh char in general ap for fun, ad is a little more serious I suppose
My personal bans:
Shaco/Taric/Kayle/Heim
pick mummy or ban mummy pick kayle
I dont agree with banning shen/rammus/akali/vlad/xin/morde/nidalee/ww at all.. there would have to be a specific reason for any of those, like if your a heavy phys team then rammus is a pretty fast ban, shen is really not ideal after early game but if your team has a weak early game sure ban him and taric.. I agree galio is pretty damn game changing when played well especially combined with some other aoe disabler.. the rest are just a dime a dozen
though Im sure at a higher level of play there are a lot more ways to think about things . like cutting them off from a jungler/good tank, etc.. cutting off a weakness of your team comp..
On August 16 2010 18:30 NB wrote: for twitch and teemo, ap or ad?
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
twitch = ad
teemo : meh char in general ap for fun, ad is a little more serious I suppose
My personal bans:
Shaco/Taric/Kayle/Heim
pick mummy or ban mummy pick kayle
I dont agree with banning shen/rammus/akali/vlad/xin/morde/nidalee/ww at all.. there would have to be a specific reason for any of those, like if your a heavy phys team then rammus is a pretty fast ban, shen is really not ideal after early game but if your team has a weak early game sure ban him and taric.. I agree galio is pretty damn game changing when played well especially combined with some other aoe disabler.. the rest are just a dime a dozen
though Im sure at a higher level of play there are a lot more ways to think about things . like cutting them off from a jungler/good tank, etc.. cutting off a weakness of your team comp..
nah, that list is what you "commonly see" got banned zzzz
mostly i love ban second so that i can try not banning both shaco and heim so i can pick one of them :D
dont understand y you ban kayle though, gun blade buff => kayle imba?
On August 16 2010 13:42 Khul Sadukar wrote: I hate shaco.
Is suppression working on WW yet? I didn't see any nerfs to him. Hard to tell if ppl cleanse out of ult too as it seems there's many escapes to it. Seems to do jack shit half the time.
i don't think ww needs buffs, he's got the fastest jungling power and a well played ww can win lots of games. cleanse got nerfed so i think he should be fine
Well they said they would make his ult suppression and rebalance him just wondering if they have yet. Doesn't seem like. Btw shaco is the best jungler hands down. (I'm teaching soo many words to this swype keyboard today lol)
Also I've turned my loss steak around by going dual bloodthirsters lol. should prob get a last whisper instead. I watched the ww spotlight and they suggested ghostblade like wtf?!?
Can anyone link some good videos? A couple I found on youtube all suck apart from that 4m dragon one.
atk speed quint/marks cdr blue flat armor ylw 16(atk speed)/0/14 open longsword + 1 hp pot start blue (q) start mini golem (w)
i hardly do the same thing when i jungle every game with ww. too many different scenarios. sometimes, ill red pot + ward or cloth armor + ward sometimes ill start at the other teams blue or my lizard(red pot) into 4min dragon or my lizard into level 2 gank or blue buff straight into laning. etc etc.
Nunu can do blue golem first. It has to be very specific though. Cloth armor + 2 health pots. You won't need more pots because his consume gets powerful at level 3.
My runes: apen / mp5/lvl / CDR / HP quints (2 out of 3 lol)
Probably much easier with dodge yellows and the last quint.
Start with smite, let golem hit you twice. consume. Spam consume until the fight ends. You will be very low health compared to other junglers, but once you get to wraiths you'll be back up again.
dang!.. got tricked picking heim and got ass raped by ashe and teemo... teemo going the lamp ward thing so almost 1 hit my turret T__T... they also have kat >.<
On August 16 2010 18:30 NB wrote: for twitch and teemo, ap or ad?
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
teemo is for baddies, AP twitch is a joke, and that list is very wrong . akali/morde are never good bans, kayle/ezreal are, vlad/xin/galio usually aren't, nidalee/shen/WW usually aren't either.
On August 16 2010 18:30 NB wrote: for twitch and teemo, ap or ad?
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
twitch = ad
teemo : meh char in general ap for fun, ad is a little more serious I suppose
My personal bans:
Shaco/Taric/Kayle/Heim
pick mummy or ban mummy pick kayle
I dont agree with banning shen/rammus/akali/vlad/xin/morde/nidalee/ww at all.. there would have to be a specific reason for any of those, like if your a heavy phys team then rammus is a pretty fast ban, shen is really not ideal after early game but if your team has a weak early game sure ban him and taric.. I agree galio is pretty damn game changing when played well especially combined with some other aoe disabler.. the rest are just a dime a dozen
though Im sure at a higher level of play there are a lot more ways to think about things . like cutting them off from a jungler/good tank, etc.. cutting off a weakness of your team comp..
nah, that list is what you "commonly see" got banned zzzz
mostly i love ban second so that i can try not banning both shaco and heim so i can pick one of them :D
dont understand y you ban kayle though, gun blade buff => kayle imba?
On August 16 2010 18:30 NB wrote: for twitch and teemo, ap or ad?
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
teemo is for baddies, AP twitch is a joke, and that list is very wrong . akali/morde are never good bans, kayle/ezreal are, vlad/xin/galio usually aren't, nidalee/shen/WW usually aren't either.
On August 16 2010 18:30 NB wrote: for twitch and teemo, ap or ad?
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
twitch = ad
teemo : meh char in general ap for fun, ad is a little more serious I suppose
My personal bans:
Shaco/Taric/Kayle/Heim
pick mummy or ban mummy pick kayle
I dont agree with banning shen/rammus/akali/vlad/xin/morde/nidalee/ww at all.. there would have to be a specific reason for any of those, like if your a heavy phys team then rammus is a pretty fast ban, shen is really not ideal after early game but if your team has a weak early game sure ban him and taric.. I agree galio is pretty damn game changing when played well especially combined with some other aoe disabler.. the rest are just a dime a dozen
though Im sure at a higher level of play there are a lot more ways to think about things . like cutting them off from a jungler/good tank, etc.. cutting off a weakness of your team comp..
nah, that list is what you "commonly see" got banned zzzz
mostly i love ban second so that i can try not banning both shaco and heim so i can pick one of them :D
dont understand y you ban kayle though, gun blade buff => kayle imba?
ok are you trolling or just a genuine baddie?
I'm pretty sure NB is just trolling the thread as hard as he can.
On August 16 2010 18:30 NB wrote: for twitch and teemo, ap or ad?
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
teemo is for baddies, AP twitch is a joke, and that list is very wrong . akali/morde are never good bans, kayle/ezreal are, vlad/xin/galio usually aren't, nidalee/shen/WW usually aren't either.
On August 16 2010 19:34 NB wrote:
On August 16 2010 19:08 BraveGhost wrote:
On August 16 2010 18:30 NB wrote: for twitch and teemo, ap or ad?
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
twitch = ad
teemo : meh char in general ap for fun, ad is a little more serious I suppose
My personal bans:
Shaco/Taric/Kayle/Heim
pick mummy or ban mummy pick kayle
I dont agree with banning shen/rammus/akali/vlad/xin/morde/nidalee/ww at all.. there would have to be a specific reason for any of those, like if your a heavy phys team then rammus is a pretty fast ban, shen is really not ideal after early game but if your team has a weak early game sure ban him and taric.. I agree galio is pretty damn game changing when played well especially combined with some other aoe disabler.. the rest are just a dime a dozen
though Im sure at a higher level of play there are a lot more ways to think about things . like cutting them off from a jungler/good tank, etc.. cutting off a weakness of your team comp..
nah, that list is what you "commonly see" got banned zzzz
mostly i love ban second so that i can try not banning both shaco and heim so i can pick one of them :D
dont understand y you ban kayle though, gun blade buff => kayle imba?
ok are you trolling or just a genuine baddie?
I'm pretty sure NB is just trolling the thread as hard as he can.
i'm leaning towards being a baddie as there is a semblance of knowledge in that post (some of the bans are good).
So I switched to Veigar from Ryze and I'm enjoying it a lot more. Only problem is regardless of my score, k:d, assists, helping teammates or number of buildings I destroy, I lose 80% of my games with Veigar.
I'm confused D:
ALSO: There is so much bm in this game, it's awful.
On August 16 2010 18:30 NB wrote: for twitch and teemo, ap or ad?
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
teemo is for baddies, AP twitch is a joke, and that list is very wrong . akali/morde are never good bans, kayle/ezreal are, vlad/xin/galio usually aren't, nidalee/shen/WW usually aren't either.
On August 16 2010 19:34 NB wrote:
On August 16 2010 19:08 BraveGhost wrote:
On August 16 2010 18:30 NB wrote: for twitch and teemo, ap or ad?
if im not wrong, the order of ban champs are: heim +shaco taric + shen + soraka rammus + amumu + akali (+ vlad + xin +galio) morde + nidalee + WW the rest
twitch = ad
teemo : meh char in general ap for fun, ad is a little more serious I suppose
My personal bans:
Shaco/Taric/Kayle/Heim
pick mummy or ban mummy pick kayle
I dont agree with banning shen/rammus/akali/vlad/xin/morde/nidalee/ww at all.. there would have to be a specific reason for any of those, like if your a heavy phys team then rammus is a pretty fast ban, shen is really not ideal after early game but if your team has a weak early game sure ban him and taric.. I agree galio is pretty damn game changing when played well especially combined with some other aoe disabler.. the rest are just a dime a dozen
though Im sure at a higher level of play there are a lot more ways to think about things . like cutting them off from a jungler/good tank, etc.. cutting off a weakness of your team comp..
nah, that list is what you "commonly see" got banned zzzz
mostly i love ban second so that i can try not banning both shaco and heim so i can pick one of them :D
dont understand y you ban kayle though, gun blade buff => kayle imba?
ok are you trolling or just a genuine baddie?
I'm pretty sure NB is just trolling the thread as hard as he can.
i'm leaning towards being a baddie as there is a semblance of knowledge in that post (some of the bans are good).
EPT
. akali/morde are never good bans, kayle/ezreal are, vlad/xin/galio usually aren't, nidalee/shen/WW usually aren't either.
ok are you trolling or just a genuine baddie?
