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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i33.tinypic.com/9qd6rq.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i38.tinypic.com/6fcvoi.jpg) Yay, solo queue isn't complete garbage anymore! Either that or I am incredibly lucky I am having alot of fun with free GP week, really considering buying him. Has anyone tried Galio yet? opinions/thoughts? Also lol @ more run pages...I have only finished one and have bought barely any heros, they should make gaining IP faster or lower the prices, the amount of grinding you have to do really makes this game feel like a chore most of the time T_T | ||
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ToT)OjKa(
Korea (South)2437 Posts
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
On August 10 2010 08:05 Chrispy wrote: Hmm tankplank kind of varies. I like tankplank against heavy physical dps teams but you don't see many of those. Standard Tankplank boots 1 Avarice blade Mercs treads Sunfire Cape Atma's Impaler Youmoos Ghostblade Sunfire cape/Infinity Edge If it's heavy AP team throw in a banshees after atma's impaler. Although if it's heavy AP team I'd recommend just going Dps instead. On August 10 2010 08:12 Shikyo wrote: I think that a full tankplank is better, aka HoGs -> 1-2 Sunfires -> Atmas -> Veil if needed, if not, more sunfires or alternatively frozen mallet EDIT: These are 2 "tankplank" builds. I feel they fare better than normal DPS only gangplank builds. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
nothing like random-ass 1.2K crit parley being the deciding factor in a teamfight :p. | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On August 11 2010 01:18 stormtemplar wrote: Hey, looking for a premade to play with in ranked. I'm about to reach lvl 20. Anyone up for it? Don't you need to be 30 to do ranked? | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
For the sake of an experiment, let's assume that Annie has sorc shoes, 10 mpen from masteries(full marks and a quint), and that Ashe has merc treads and no other sources of mres. Then let's compare a Haunting Guise and a Needlessly Large Rod. Let's also assume Annie doesn't have the mpen mastery and no other sources of AP. Damage of lvl 5 Disintegrate with Needlessly Large Rod: 260 + (0.6*80) = 308 Damage to Ashe: 308 / 1.25 = 246.4 Damage of lvl 5 Disintegrate with Haunting Guise: 260 + (0.6*25) = 275 Damage to Ashe : 275 / 1.05 = 261.9 Haunting Guise is cheaper than NLR and also gives HP. Is Haunting Guise underrated? Discuss. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On August 11 2010 02:07 Mogwai wrote: critplank is funnier though... nothing like random-ass 1.2K crit parley being the deciding factor in a teamfight :p. I seriously despise that shit. Getting crit like that randomly, by a gangplank that is terrible, (all of them) and dying as a result makes me sad. It's one of the lamest ways to die in all of League of Legends I think. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On August 11 2010 02:10 Shikyo wrote: How good is a Haunting Guise? For the sake of an experiment, let's assume that Annie has sorc shoes, 10 mpen from masteries(full marks and a quint), and that Ashe has merc treads and no other sources of mres. Then let's compare a Haunting Guise and a Needlessly Large Rod. Let's also assume Annie doesn't have the mpen mastery and no other sources of AP. Damage of lvl 5 Disintegrate with Needlessly Large Rod: 260 + (0.6*80) = 308 Damage to Ashe: 308 / 1.25 = 246.4 Damage of lvl 5 Disintegrate with Haunting Guise: 260 + (0.6*25) = 275 Damage to Ashe : 275 / 1.05 = 261.9 Haunting Guise is cheaper than NLR and also gives HP. Is Haunting Guise underrated? Discuss. I am kinda sure its underrated since most people didnt like it after its spell wamp was taken away. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
it's also a lot less noticeable vs. higher amount of magic resist. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 11 2010 02:11 keV. wrote: I seriously despise that shit. Getting crit like that randomly, by a gangplank that is terrible, (all of them) and dying as a result makes me sad. It's one of the lamest ways to die in all of League of Legends I think. ^ Chrispy would take offense to that "(all of them)" comment. Kid's too good with Pirate. | ||
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keV.
United States3214 Posts
On August 11 2010 02:15 Mogwai wrote: ^ Chrispy would take offense to that "(all of them)" comment. Kid's too good with Pirate. He can parle like a pro huh? IMPRESSIVE. That comment was more directed at how simple the hero is to play. | ||
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Gordonbombay
United States24 Posts
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Nafaltar
Germany302 Posts
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On August 11 2010 02:10 Shikyo wrote: How good is a Haunting Guise? For the sake of an experiment, let's assume that Annie has sorc shoes, 10 mpen from masteries(full marks and a quint), and that Ashe has merc treads and no other sources of mres. Then let's compare a Haunting Guise and a Needlessly Large Rod. Let's also assume Annie doesn't have the mpen mastery and no other sources of AP. Damage of lvl 5 Disintegrate with Needlessly Large Rod: 260 + (0.6*80) = 308 Damage to Ashe: 308 / 1.25 = 246.4 Damage of lvl 5 Disintegrate with Haunting Guise: 260 + (0.6*25) = 275 Damage to Ashe : 275 / 1.05 = 261.9 Haunting Guise is cheaper than NLR and also gives HP. Is Haunting Guise underrated? Discuss. Spell Pen has a diminished effect as the amount of mres your target has increases, obviously, so does ability power. However, if you aren't going for a full spell penetration build then generally stacking AP is a better choice, though it does give extra HP as well so I find the guise to be an excellent item for the price. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On August 11 2010 02:13 Mogwai wrote: na, cuz haunting guise doesn't build into z-ring. it's also a lot less noticeable vs. higher amount of magic resist. That seriously is the range where most non-tanky champions will be Most don't get any additional mres other than merc treads. Let's do the same with 130 mres(you very, very rarely see anyone have higher than this) though: Damage of lvl 5 Disintegrate with Needlessly Large Rod: 260 + (0.6*180) = 308 Damage to Ashe: 308 / 2.0 = 154 Damage of lvl 5 Disintegrate with Haunting Guise: 260 + (0.6*125) = 275 Damage to Ashe: 275 / 1.8 = 152.8 However, after just a little bit of more AP, Haunting Guise is better again. With 100 extra AP from a random source: Damage of lvl 5 Disintegrate with Needlessly Large Rod: 260 + (0.6*180) = 368 Damage to Ashe: 368 / 2.0 = 184 Damage of lvl 5 Disintegrate with Haunting Guise: 260 + (0.6*125) = 335 Damage to Ashe: 335 / 1.8 = 186.1 Remember it's cheaper and gives 200 hp. Oh another thing. No one was dissing Brutalizer just because it didn't build into an Infinity Edge. So yeah, to me Haunting Guise seems really underrated, these results are quite surprising. On August 11 2010 02:18 STS17 wrote: Spell Pen has a diminished effect as the amount of mres your target has increases, obviously, so does ability power. However, if you aren't going for a full spell penetration build then generally stacking AP is a better choice, though it does give extra HP as well so I find the guise to be an excellent item for the price. Actually, stacking mpen until they're as close to 0 mres as possible is a lot better than stacking AP. If you get a Void Staff, this might not be the case anymore. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
I've mentioned it a number of times, but LIBF's awesome Anivia basically rushed Sorc + Guise and had MPen runes so he'd run around with some 60 or so magic pen, which meant even with Merc Treads you didn't have enough. Eating a full combo from Anivia is brutal. He'd basically ride this early-game to stack AP and just kill people really fast and wreck a game from the onset. It's a bad item if you're building for mid-late game. Edit: By the way the reason Guise sucks mid-late is because it costs a lot for an item that's essentially as useful as Doran's Ring late-game. That is to say you'll probably sell it for space. Edit2: Also most people did diss Brutalizer. The only heroes that ran Bruta prior to Ghostblade were Ashe and Pantheon. It was a really bad item on everyone else because it costs a lot, doesn't actually add that much damage, and gets countered for really cheap (300 gold). | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
"By the way the reason Guise sucks mid-late is because it costs a lot for an item that's essentially as useful as Doran's Ring late-game. That is to say you'll probably sell it for space." Champions by default have way more armor than mres, and Brutalizer only had 15 apen whereas HG has 20. Also, mpen scales with the amount of AP you have. Oh, did I even mention the health... I'll probably start rushing HG on every caster from now on, love calculating things like this ^_^ | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
for whatever it's worth, I can't remember the last time I finished a remotely close game with less than 150 MRes on Amumu or Garen. | ||
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