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jtbem
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 14:55:16
August 10 2010 14:53 GMT
#11281
6300ip/590rp for a single rune page
2600rp for 7 rune pages
aka Sowelulol
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 14:55:43
August 10 2010 14:54 GMT
#11282
I sense a firestorm coming.
+ Show Spoiler +
DUEL FFS!!!


Oh holy fuck. On the other hand, I'm surprised it's even available for IP at all.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 14:57:35
August 10 2010 14:56 GMT
#11283
How the hell are you supposed to duel about Soulstealer, it's totally a 5v5 item.

On August 10 2010 23:53 jtbem wrote:
6300ip/590rp for a single rune page
2600rp for 7 rune pages


Yaaaaaaaaaargh T_T
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 10 2010 14:59 GMT
#11284
rune pages are too expensive, but w/e, I think I'm already over it.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 10 2010 14:59 GMT
#11285
I'm just having trouble balancing playing LoL with all the other stuff going on in my life (including SC2, though I've hardly played that too _-_). I think I only need one page though so I guess I don't really care.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2010 15:00 GMT
#11286
On August 10 2010 23:43 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 23:37 Shikyo wrote:
EDIT: maybe soulstealers can be consistant, but back when I used to build them in nearly every game, I had huge variance. The soulstealer needs to get to like 12 stocks really fast to be worth it, and in an average game where I do sometimes die, it's really difficult.


I don't understand this. Why? It's a fucking AP item, that already gives a base of 20, and costs ~1200. Assuming you're equating it to NLR and Blasting Wand you only need 40 more AP for it to be worth its cost, which is 5 stacks. Where the hell does this 12 stack come from?

Eh it's because of the early lack of strenght. That's why avarice doesn't make up for its cost in 5 minutes although it theorically does, because you have to value in the loss of efficiency from earlier.

Let's say with a mejais you can get 3-0-2. Chances are that with an amp + blashing wand you could have gotten 5-0-3 in that time because of your higher starting AP. Mejai isn't "worth its cost" at 5 stacks, then it's just even and then needs to make up for the huge loss of efficiency from earlier. Maybe 12 is too high but it's close. Also take in account that if you die just once you're set back dramatically.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 10 2010 15:01 GMT
#11287
What are people's opinion on Clairvoyance as a summoner spell? I've been taking it on my jungling WW lately and its been useful for keeping my ass protected (by checking areas in the jungle people like to camp for ganks) or to keep an eye on the other teams jungler.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2010 15:03 GMT
#11288
On August 11 2010 00:01 STS17 wrote:
What are people's opinion on Clairvoyance as a summoner spell? I've been taking it on my jungling WW lately and its been useful for keeping my ass protected (by checking areas in the jungle people like to camp for ganks) or to keep an eye on the other teams jungler.

janna, soraka with clairvoyance in the opposing team is a huge pain in the ass
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 10 2010 15:04 GMT
#11289
Rod of Ages and Catalyst are also not "worth the cost" until 10-15 minutes down the line yet I don't see you complaining about the slowness like I was (in fact I'm only getting RoA nowadays for the hp/mana after someone showed me EHP was the same as GA). Yet for some reason despite the terrible cost-time efficiency of RoA you seem to consider it standard, while an item for a fraction of RoA's cost that gives more consistent AP mass (if you're good) and allows you to actually carry is somehow horrible? Does not register.

Also 60 damage (40 AP) is generally not going to make or break your day.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 10 2010 15:05 GMT
#11290
On August 11 2010 00:00 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 23:43 Southlight wrote:
On August 10 2010 23:37 Shikyo wrote:
EDIT: maybe soulstealers can be consistant, but back when I used to build them in nearly every game, I had huge variance. The soulstealer needs to get to like 12 stocks really fast to be worth it, and in an average game where I do sometimes die, it's really difficult.


I don't understand this. Why? It's a fucking AP item, that already gives a base of 20, and costs ~1200. Assuming you're equating it to NLR and Blasting Wand you only need 40 more AP for it to be worth its cost, which is 5 stacks. Where the hell does this 12 stack come from?

Eh it's because of the early lack of strenght. That's why avarice doesn't make up for its cost in 5 minutes although it theorically does, because you have to value in the loss of efficiency from earlier.

Let's say with a mejais you can get 3-0-2. Chances are that with an amp + blashing wand you could have gotten 5-0-3 in that time because of your higher starting AP. Mejai isn't "worth its cost" at 5 stacks, then it's just even and then needs to make up for the huge loss of efficiency from earlier. Maybe 12 is too high but it's close. Also take in account that if you die just once you're set back dramatically.

seriously? you seriously think the difference between 20 and 60 AP is fairly equated to 2 kills and an assist? like, really? honestly? is this seriously how the analysis works in your mind?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
August 10 2010 15:10 GMT
#11291
Now they kinda need to make us pay 5000 more IP to be able to give runepages NAMES.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 10 2010 15:11 GMT
#11292
On August 11 2010 00:10 BluzMan wrote:
Now they kinda need to make us pay 5000 more IP to be able to give runepages NAMES.


Actually you can already name them >_> Or were you being sarcastic.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 15:18:05
August 10 2010 15:17 GMT
#11293
Riot needs people to buy stuff. If they keep giving stuff away just for playing their game, they're going to fail as a business and none of us want that. The pricing is still overboard, IMO, but whatever, if they done seriously fucked up, the sales numbers will show them that they did and they'll have to adjust accordingly to appease the community, but I'm not gonna hold it against them for trying to get theirs. *shrugs*

EDIT: and ofc he was being sarcastic, herpdederp
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
SCC-Faust
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3736 Posts
August 10 2010 15:27 GMT
#11294
Galio's shield (w) is absolute shit and is 100x inferior to Garen's, Janna's, Morgana's, and anyone else that has anything that resembles a shield. The only use I've found for his dumb Bulwark is to use it on himself before he uses his ultimate.

Other than that I guess his abilities are kinda cool.
I want to fuck Soulkey with a Zelderan.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 10 2010 15:32 GMT
#11295
Personally, I think they should charge for ranked play which would unlock all champions and give you access to runes and masteries (one page and mastery set-up per champion) while giving you access to all runes. Ultimately this levels the playing field for all players since everything becomes available to everyone. These unlocks would only be available in ranked play (so you would still need to purchase champions for the "free" normal play.
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2010 15:35 GMT
#11296
On August 11 2010 00:05 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 00:00 Shikyo wrote:
On August 10 2010 23:43 Southlight wrote:
On August 10 2010 23:37 Shikyo wrote:
EDIT: maybe soulstealers can be consistant, but back when I used to build them in nearly every game, I had huge variance. The soulstealer needs to get to like 12 stocks really fast to be worth it, and in an average game where I do sometimes die, it's really difficult.


I don't understand this. Why? It's a fucking AP item, that already gives a base of 20, and costs ~1200. Assuming you're equating it to NLR and Blasting Wand you only need 40 more AP for it to be worth its cost, which is 5 stacks. Where the hell does this 12 stack come from?

Eh it's because of the early lack of strenght. That's why avarice doesn't make up for its cost in 5 minutes although it theorically does, because you have to value in the loss of efficiency from earlier.

Let's say with a mejais you can get 3-0-2. Chances are that with an amp + blashing wand you could have gotten 5-0-3 in that time because of your higher starting AP. Mejai isn't "worth its cost" at 5 stacks, then it's just even and then needs to make up for the huge loss of efficiency from earlier. Maybe 12 is too high but it's close. Also take in account that if you die just once you're set back dramatically.

seriously? you seriously think the difference between 20 and 60 AP is fairly equated to 2 kills and an assist? like, really? honestly? is this seriously how the analysis works in your mind?

It's surprisingly significant.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 15:40:28
August 10 2010 15:39 GMT
#11297
Just played my first ranked with a team of:

Garen(me), Galio, Kayle, Sivir, Morgana.

I dove so fucking bad. Their Janna denied me a bunch of kills though. Galio seems pretty fucking good to me. Really good support hero. This was a 1500~ game. It's hard to pinpoint his exact strengths with basically a full support team, he does a pretty significant amount of damage too.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 15:42:50
August 10 2010 15:41 GMT
#11298
On August 11 2010 00:27 SCC-Faust wrote:
Galio's shield (w) is absolute shit and is 100x inferior to Garen's, Janna's, Morgana's, and anyone else that has anything that resembles a shield. The only use I've found for his dumb Bulwark is to use it on himself before he uses his ultimate.

Other than that I guess his abilities are kinda cool.

How about shielding a tank while running away yourself? The tank might even just take minion/tower hits.
Dunno if this even works/makes sense, I can't find any precise stats on Gailo...

On August 11 2010 00:35 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 00:05 Mogwai wrote:
On August 11 2010 00:00 Shikyo wrote:
On August 10 2010 23:43 Southlight wrote:
On August 10 2010 23:37 Shikyo wrote:
EDIT: maybe soulstealers can be consistant, but back when I used to build them in nearly every game, I had huge variance. The soulstealer needs to get to like 12 stocks really fast to be worth it, and in an average game where I do sometimes die, it's really difficult.


I don't understand this. Why? It's a fucking AP item, that already gives a base of 20, and costs ~1200. Assuming you're equating it to NLR and Blasting Wand you only need 40 more AP for it to be worth its cost, which is 5 stacks. Where the hell does this 12 stack come from?

Eh it's because of the early lack of strenght. That's why avarice doesn't make up for its cost in 5 minutes although it theorically does, because you have to value in the loss of efficiency from earlier.

Let's say with a mejais you can get 3-0-2. Chances are that with an amp + blashing wand you could have gotten 5-0-3 in that time because of your higher starting AP. Mejai isn't "worth its cost" at 5 stacks, then it's just even and then needs to make up for the huge loss of efficiency from earlier. Maybe 12 is too high but it's close. Also take in account that if you die just once you're set back dramatically.

seriously? you seriously think the difference between 20 and 60 AP is fairly equated to 2 kills and an assist? like, really? honestly? is this seriously how the analysis works in your mind?

It's surprisingly significant.

Don't forget to consider how it changes if you use SS + Blue Elixier.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 10 2010 15:43 GMT
#11299
On August 11 2010 00:35 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 00:05 Mogwai wrote:
On August 11 2010 00:00 Shikyo wrote:
On August 10 2010 23:43 Southlight wrote:
On August 10 2010 23:37 Shikyo wrote:
EDIT: maybe soulstealers can be consistant, but back when I used to build them in nearly every game, I had huge variance. The soulstealer needs to get to like 12 stocks really fast to be worth it, and in an average game where I do sometimes die, it's really difficult.


I don't understand this. Why? It's a fucking AP item, that already gives a base of 20, and costs ~1200. Assuming you're equating it to NLR and Blasting Wand you only need 40 more AP for it to be worth its cost, which is 5 stacks. Where the hell does this 12 stack come from?

Eh it's because of the early lack of strenght. That's why avarice doesn't make up for its cost in 5 minutes although it theorically does, because you have to value in the loss of efficiency from earlier.

Let's say with a mejais you can get 3-0-2. Chances are that with an amp + blashing wand you could have gotten 5-0-3 in that time because of your higher starting AP. Mejai isn't "worth its cost" at 5 stacks, then it's just even and then needs to make up for the huge loss of efficiency from earlier. Maybe 12 is too high but it's close. Also take in account that if you die just once you're set back dramatically.

seriously? you seriously think the difference between 20 and 60 AP is fairly equated to 2 kills and an assist? like, really? honestly? is this seriously how the analysis works in your mind?

It's surprisingly significant.

so you do seriously think that the difference between 3-0-2 and 5-0-3 is usually that extra 60 damage of burst? the main limiting factor on KDA is really just the number of opportunities to actually get kills. the number of opportunities in which the difference between being able to get a kill and not being able to get a kill is having that extra 40 AP is absolutely minuscule. Think about how many times you overkill your opponent by 100 damage and just think that this could be snowballing you to a stronger late game. On the flip side, think of how many times someone gets away with under 100 HP when you buy mejai's.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 10 2010 15:52 GMT
#11300
Well I don't rush AP items, I get a catalyst in place of a soulstealer, and with the lanestaying and amazing regen, the differences aren't as apparent. I don't really build for straight AP ever, so I guess that was a terrible example since I'd never just get a pure AP item first on Kass.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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