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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On July 30 2010 19:57 Juicyfruit wrote: got owned by DPS udyr and I'm not even sure why. LOL. Black cleaver + trinity force + tiger stance. He did like 2000 damage in 2 second >.>? It's pretty much bound to happen, I'm an udyr player and don't even know what Tiger Stance does lol, I just know to farm a wave before hardpushing a tower or looking for a gank, get one rank in it and watch my target's HP fall faster than if I was playing Jax... I'm not even sure what the mechanics for it are, I know it splits the attack into 3 hits as a passive but gives a massive buff upon activation, and while stancedancing you'll keep the buff on for as long as you want. The on-hit effects tho don't work normally while in TS: a Sion's passive for example will proc less often because it considers every 3-hit volley as only one hit thus reducing fewer hits than it normally would, Sheen/Triforce/Lichbane buffs all 3 attacks, I'm not sure about when Wit's End and BC will proc tho. Also the 3 hits bypass the 2.4 attack speed cap, since he had probably capped his AS with items/passive he was making 7.2 atks per second, which is a lot. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
On July 30 2010 21 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 30 2010 21 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:13 r33k wrote: It's pretty much bound to happen, I'm an udyr player and don't even know what Tiger Stance does lol, I just know to farm a wave before hardpushing a tower or looking for a gank, get one rank in it and watch my target's HP fall faster than if I was playing Jax... I'm not even sure what the mechanics for it are, I know it splits the attack into 3 hits as a passive but gives a massive buff upon activation, and while stancedancing you'll keep the buff on for as long as you want. The on-hit effects tho don't work normally while in TS: a Sion's passive for example will proc less often because it considers every 3-hit volley as only one hit thus reducing fewer hits than it normally would, Sheen/Triforce/Lichbane buffs all 3 attacks, I'm not sure about when Wit's End and BC will proc tho. Also the 3 hits bypass the 2.4 attack speed cap, since he had probably capped his AS with items/passive he was making 7.2 atks per second, which is a lot. wtf attack speed cap is 2.5 and with tiger stance ur attacks do 1/3 of ur normal damamge so u don't get a dps increase out of that(except for the +as u gain from tiger stance) udyr's best played as a jungler 1.jungle 2.gank the 2v1 lane 3.drag when u can 4.buy raduin+sunfire or banshee depending on the line up 5.focus thier carry in teamfights that's how its done | ||
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Dark.Carnival
United States5095 Posts
Also, the more games I play, the more I miss denies. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
1.intro some1 above me said they got owned by a dps udyr and the first replay he got was "it's pretty much bound to happen" yea.........WTF.udyr's strength is his jungling prowess,the utility his various stances bring to a teamfight and his natural tankiness due to his passive and turtle stance,so this mini guide is going to teach u how to play him as a jungler/semi-tank not a 2nd rate melee dps. 2.pregame set up runes -red:attack speed (helps with jungling and with proccing phoenix stance's active) -yellow:dodge (burst reduction and scales well with hp items,which we're gonna buy) -blue:flat cdr (more stancedance yay~) -quint: ms boost (ur a melee tank who needs to be close to ur target to stun/dps so natrually we take ms boost as our quints) masteries 1/16/13 improved smite is hot so is uber long buff duration and +exp and we dump the rest in defensive cuz we's a tank summoner spells -smite and ghost undeniably the best ss for udyr item build serker boots->heart of gold->randuin->sunfire or banshee depending on the line up->if the game hasn't ended by now just try to counter thier carry skill build phoenix,turtle,phoenix,bear,phoenix max phoenix than turtle than bear 3.how to jungle start with boots + 3 x pots(1 pot + 1 ward if ur in a 5 man and u know ur teammates will harass their jungler when he tries to golem) jungle path wraiths(smite blue)->mini golem(drink a pot)->tp home buy a ward if thier jungler is amumu or ww and go to drag and place a ward than *obviously fucking skip this step if ur not against a amumu or ww big golem(smite)->wolves->wraiths->liz(smite) now if ur 2 v 1 lane is not pushed out(idk why it should be but sometimes ppl pull a fullretard) u gank there if not u gank mid important thing to note-if the lanes dont look gankable than dont do it and continue on with ur jungle and that concludes how to fucking play udyr the RIGHT way | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On July 30 2010 21:36 Dark.Carnival wrote: Why is Zilean always in the free hero rotation? Is he their default hero every week? ._.;; Also, the more games I play, the more I miss denies. lol dc go back to sc2/hon k thx | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
also, the vampire champ turns out to be very useful as 1v1 vs caster at mid. i used ryze vs him the 1st time and have to use lots of mind games to overcome the fact that he can dodge my full combo using his 2nd skill. that skill should be his ulti instead of a normal skill. | ||
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Pakje
Belgium288 Posts
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oberon
United States1320 Posts
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AbyssV3
United States172 Posts
Per Win IP Boost 3 Day IP Boost = x8 IP on wins, x4 IP on loses. I'm power gaming all weekend. Lol. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On July 30 2010 22:04 Pakje wrote: Can someone explain me how to lane against vlad guy. All he does is transfuse and steals your health. ionno, i solo'd mid against one as xin and ruined the kid. I dunno if he was just bad, but the transfuse doesnt really do that much, so you basically got to try to punish him for coming close enough to do it somehow. As xin, i just lept, knockup'd and proceeded to spear him in the face, and while subsequent attempts got pooled (still did significant dmg tho), i did set the tone for that lane and established my dominance. I'd imagine for other heroes its different (i.e. if i were ez, i would try to draw him in front of creeps and mystic shot him every time he tried to transfuse me) | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
I'm curious if other heroes can do it to, maybe even gank two lanes at once...that would screw up your opponents game plan starting with 4 deaths. Kayle might be able to get there fast enough if she takes her heal first and combines it with ghost... | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On July 30 2010 22:24 STS17 wrote: I started doing that Rammus gank thing from the video a few pages back, where he teleports to a land then drops a ward and has the entire team come gank the two going top. I started using Rally instead of a ward because its cheaper and makes the gank easier. Man it's hilarious when doing it in the solo queue if you can convince your team to try it. I'm curious if other heroes can do it to, maybe even gank two lanes at once...that would screw up your opponents game plan starting with 4 deaths. Kayle might be able to get there fast enough if she takes her heal first and combines it with ghost... teemo might be able to but rammus would be the fastest. there are lots of place you can gank at level 1->2 using teleport + wards. just played against an ez, 3 went bot to fb level 1, imidiately tele port to a ward near mid and gank for a kill. he almost got it but i ghost into their jungle and B back in time. (very effective with a team that mass stun.) | ||
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Cirn9
1117 Posts
On July 30 2010 22:18 AbyssV3 wrote: Double IP Week Per Win IP Boost 3 Day IP Boost = x8 IP on wins, x4 IP on loses. I'm power gaming all weekend. Lol. You can buy the per win boosts and stack them with the X day boosts? Imba | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On July 30 2010 21:44 locodoco wrote: + Show Spoiler + mini udyr guide by loco 1.intro some1 above me said they got owned by a dps udyr and the first replay he got was "it's pretty much bound to happen" yea.........WTF.udyr's strength is his jungling prowess,the utility his various stances bring to a teamfight and his natural tankiness due to his passive and turtle stance,so this mini guide is going to teach u how to play him as a jungler/semi-tank not a 2nd rate melee dps. 2.pregame set up runes -red:attack speed (helps with jungling and with proccing phoenix stance's active) -yellow:dodge (burst reduction and scales well with hp items,which we're gonna buy) -blue:flat cdr (more stancedance yay~) -quint: ms boost (ur a melee tank who needs to be close to ur target to stun/dps so natrually we take ms boost as our quints) masteries 1/16/13 improved smite is hot so is uber long buff duration and +exp and we dump the rest in defensive cuz we's a tank summoner spells -smite and ghost undeniably the best ss for udyr item build serker boots->heart of gold->randuin->sunfire or banshee depending on the line up->if the game hasn't ended by now just try to counter thier carry skill build phoenix,turtle,phoenix,bear,phoenix max phoenix than turtle than bear 3.how to jungle start with boots + 3 x pots(1 pot + 1 ward if ur in a 5 man and u know ur teammates will harass their jungler when he tries to golem) jungle path wraiths(smite blue)->mini golem(drink a pot)->tp home buy a ward if thier jungler is amumu or ww and go to drag and place a ward than *obviously fucking skip this step if ur not against a amumu or ww big golem(smite)->wolves->wraiths->liz(smite) now if ur 2 v 1 lane is not pushed out(idk why it should be but sometimes ppl pull a fullretard) u gank there if not u gank mid important thing to note-if the lanes dont look gankable than dont do it and continue on with ur jungle and that concludes how to fucking play udyr the RIGHT way Wow I really didn't know water was wet, thanks for telling me what I said in the post you quoted. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
On July 30 2010 22 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 30 2010 22 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:34 r33k wrote: Wow I really didn't know water was wet, thanks for telling me what I said in the post you quoted. np i enjoy enlightening noobs good thing ur posts were full of hard facts that i could quote instead of lots of questions and bullshit that u made up | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On July 30 2010 22:30 NB wrote: teemo might be able to but rammus would be the fastest. there are lots of place you can gank at level 1->2 using teleport + wards. just played against an ez, 3 went bot to fb level 1, imidiately tele port to a ward near mid and gank for a kill. he almost got it but i ghost into their jungle and B back in time. (very effective with a team that mass stun.) I know rammus is the fastest I was curious about a second hero that could make it in between the opposing first and second tower before the other team reaches is for a possible double-lane gank. Ideally you could use something like Rammus + your mid + his lane partner (preferably ranged with stun/snare) and in the other lane send something like Sion (with ignite + exhaust) and whoever else can get there fast enough to let sion teleport there (kayle/teemo seem fast enough with ghost) | ||
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cyoadventure
United States35 Posts
On July 30 2010 22:24 STS17 wrote: I started doing that Rammus gank thing from the video a few pages back what video? I just skimmed back 20 pages and didn't see anything  I am interested however! | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On July 30 2010 22:38 locodoco wrote: np i enjoy enlightening noobs good thing ur posts were full of hard facts that i could quote instead of lots of questions and bullshit that u made up Your lack of reading ability is incredible, I am truly astonished. | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On July 30 2010 23:03 cyoadventure wrote: what video? I just skimmed back 20 pages and didn't see anything I am interested however! By "a few pages back" I meant almost 100 ^^ Anyways here is the video. | ||
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