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myopia
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Mogwai
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On July 31 2010 01:48 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: He's too easily kited, unlike olaf/garen who have abilities which make them immune to CC. Be that as it may, even tank udyr gets kited. I just don't see why people go for phoenix over tiger if it's THIS strong. It's not like it's hard to just get tank item and then tack on an atma's impaler and green elixir for around 35% crit rate and just hit for like 600 damage with tiger. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 31 2010 02:37 Juicyfruit wrote: But I swear I got critted for like 400/400/200 from tiger stance >.< Be that as it may, even tank udyr gets kited. I just don't see why people go for phoenix over tiger if it's THIS strong. because being able to build purely as a tank and getting your damage output from innate skill points is better than needing to invest money in items to effectively do damage. also, Udyr is a jungler and phoenix stance jungles like a boss. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Since udyr can only max 3 skills out of his 4, most guide just say to not max tiger. I feel this squanders some potential. Actually, tiger does pretty good damage with just the base AD, and unlike phoenix it's damage up-front so you aren't necessarily force to commit 4 attacks before you get the damage pay-off (besides the sunfire cape effect from phoenix of course). | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
Or is their website wrong? | ||
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Mogwai
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
 I've always been confused about where tank udyr's damage comes from, to be honest >.> And yeah, phoenix goes up to 5, so he can't max all 4 of his stances | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Shit, if LilBallz does Phoenix, you do Phoenix. | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Udyr has 5/5/5/5 so by default he can only max 3 skills at most. Phoenix Stance gives up to 48 AP and 24 damage for like 3 seconds. He also has a Sunfire effect that does up to 55 magic damage, plus +.25 AP ratio, which innately gives him +12 because of its own temporary proc, for a total of 67 base magic damage per second at maxed level. Every four hits he does a giant 200 damage AoE swing, +.25 ratio again for a total of 212. Assuming one attack per second that means level 5 stance gives well over 160 DPS... plus the actual base damage, so he'll do like 250 DPS easily when you max Phoenix at level 9. The other two skills you usually raise are Turtle (tanking/damage mitigation) and Bear (for the crucial 3-second speedboost). Unfortunately that leaves Tiger as the odd-man out. Further complicating matters against Tiger is that for you to do as much damage as you surmised, you'd need a heck of a lot of base damage. Considering that it's expensive to buy damage, doing so means you'd gimp on tanking items. When you further contemplate that Udyr builds have generally revolved around tanking ie. Locket, Sunfire, etc. it becomes pretty simple to understand why Phoenix >>>>>>>> Tiger, not even counting the fact that the AoE from Phoenix is much more important for jungle speed and that the low actual base damage you have means you have a useless Tiger stances early on. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On a kind of unrelated note; Does anyone know how the models in sc2 and LoL work? I know you can import custom models into sc2 but is the file type used by both games the same? I'm curious if SC2's map editor could be used to make LoL machinima because the camera features are pretty interesting. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
On July 30 2010 22:18 AbyssV3 wrote: Double IP Week Per Win IP Boost 3 Day IP Boost = x8 IP on wins, x4 IP on loses. I'm power gaming all weekend. Lol. You positive it stacks multiplicatively, not additively? Please tell me as soon as you can test it. | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On July 31 2010 03:12 APurpleCow wrote: You positive it stacks multiplicatively, not additively? Please tell me as soon as you can test it. Per Win IP Boost 3 Day IP Boost i dont think those two can stack | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On July 31 2010 03:14 emucxg wrote: Per Win IP Boost 3 Day IP Boost i dont think those two can stack Phreak said they do, for 6x ip (with the double ip weekend) | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
On July 31 2010 03:15 Phrost wrote: Phreak said they do, for 6x ip (with the double ip weekend) link??? | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
The Store is currently unavailable, we will be back shortly. FFF | ||
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