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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
It gave me a list of who it could be to check off. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On July 24 2010 03:08 radmax86 wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i28.tinypic.com/2hh385z.jpg) BOOM I'm not banned anymore! i really like that the background of that screenie is the ded tower. gives it a really nice mood. grats on the penta | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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barbsq
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On July 24 2010 03:46 barbsq wrote: What do ppl think about rushing wits end vs heimer in a solomid? I havnt actually tried it, but since he is so mana starved as it is, a ranged person (like ashe, sivir or ezreal or w/e) would be able to burn all kinds of mana off of him, seriously messing up his pushing potential. Ofc, you still need to make sure to deny him golem (if he gets that, wits wont do shit). i feel like its too little too late. plus itll be hard to pewpew him alot without fully committing. and at that point you care less about his mana after the fight. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 24 2010 03:46 barbsq wrote: What do ppl think about rushing wits end vs heimer in a solomid? I havnt actually tried it, but since he is so mana starved as it is, a ranged person (like ashe, sivir or ezreal or w/e) would be able to burn all kinds of mana off of him, seriously messing up his pushing potential. Ofc, you still need to make sure to deny him golem (if he gets that, wits wont do shit). definitely too late and you really don't get to pew pew heimer. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
edit: also since he is squishy as it is, getting enough autoattacks off on him to significantly reduce his mana pool would also push him out of lane in general, so if ur doing that already, then there is no need for the wits i suppose. | ||
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APurpleCow
United States1372 Posts
On July 23 2010 16:17 HazMat wrote: What happens to the boots when she switches to human? Does the word like, explode? No, you just don't get the benefits from the other two boots. That's why you try to stay cougar. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On July 24 2010 03:46 barbsq wrote: What do ppl think about rushing wits end vs heimer in a solomid? I havnt actually tried it, but since he is so mana starved as it is, a ranged person (like ashe, sivir or ezreal or w/e) would be able to burn all kinds of mana off of him, seriously messing up his pushing potential. Ofc, you still need to make sure to deny him golem (if he gets that, wits wont do shit). If you know you are laning against a heimer then smite is your friend. It can one shot or almost one shot any one of his turrets and force him to waste mana resetting up constantly. Additionally, with the heroes you mentioned, heimer should be a breeze. Ashe's volley forces heimer not only to stay constantly on the move but it out ranges his turrets allowing you to destroy them at your leisure. Ezreals skill shots are very potent against the immobile turrets allowing you to harass heimer that way and Sivir can use her bouncing blade to farm minions and keep the turret count low. If you want to beat a heimer in the early game force him to keep having to reset up. It will seriously fuck with his gold generation making him much less of a threat in the mid and late games. Take it as you will, but I main heimer so I'm just telling you how people shut me down. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On July 24 2010 04:12 Mogwai wrote: when people try to shut my heimer down, I hit them with giant fucking missiles. Likewise but we both know that doesnt work when they out range your turrets and/or are moving up behind creep waves. It also doesn't work at level 1/2 when they are focusing on your turrets as soon as your drop them | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On July 24 2010 04:09 STS17 wrote: If you know you are laning against a heimer then smite is your friend. It can one shot or almost one shot any one of his turrets and force him to waste mana resetting up constantly. Additionally, with the heroes you mentioned, heimer should be a breeze. Ashe's volley forces heimer not only to stay constantly on the move but it out ranges his turrets allowing you to destroy them at your leisure. Ezreals skill shots are very potent against the immobile turrets allowing you to harass heimer that way and Sivir can use her bouncing blade to farm minions and keep the turret count low. If you want to beat a heimer in the early game force him to keep having to reset up. It will seriously fuck with his gold generation making him much less of a threat in the mid and late games. Take it as you will, but I main heimer so I'm just telling you how people shut me down. i dunno much about ashe or sivir, but i do play ez quite a bit, and more often than not, i dismantle heimer mids, (ofc i am in sucky elo, so what do i kno about playing good heimers) and i was more thinking of this as the nail in the coffin, rather than as me qq'ing about heimer and trying to find a solution or something to that end. edit: also, i realize the mistake of my ways and realize that wits probably wont do jack shit against hiemer, since if ur hitting him enough to get rid of significant mana, you dont need the wits now do you  | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On July 24 2010 04:22 Mogwai wrote: personally I love when people focus my turrets as soon as I drop them at level 1/2, it's not like I have anything better to spend my mana on than replacing turrets and in the meantime, they're missing out of farming. How? turrets give gold when killed, killing them is no different then killing a minion. Plus, no mana at the low levels means you need to go back to base to recover / get blue buff which means less time gaining experience for you. Edit: Not to mention your turrets do the majority of your farming for you so without them your farming is crippled too | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On July 24 2010 04:37 STS17 wrote: How? turrets give gold when killed, killing them is no different then killing a minion. Plus, no mana at the low levels means you need to go back to base to recover / get blue buff which means less time gaining experience for you. Edit: Not to mention your turrets do the majority of your farming for you so without them your farming is crippled too u need blue buff really early regardless, but turrets soak up quite a bit of dmg, and you really have to sit and shoot at it for quite a while to kill it, and since minions wont really do anything to them, ur basically killing it all by yourself, versus just last hitting it. also since i would assume you have tons of mana regen runes (my buddy who plays heimer goes yellows and blues all mana/5/lvl), you really wont be hurt losing a few turrets. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On July 24 2010 04:37 STS17 wrote: How? turrets give gold when killed, killing them is no different then killing a minion. Plus, no mana at the low levels means you need to go back to base to recover / get blue buff which means less time gaining experience for you. Edit: Not to mention your turrets do the majority of your farming for you so without them your farming is crippled too last hit?(this was in regards to your edit) and i dont ever find i have a problem with mana at early levels. its only once you have 3 turrets to keep up and nades and missiles to spam that i start having a problem. usually you setup the turrets behind the middle line, so their minions rarely ever attack it. so killing a turret means alot more pewpewing than just lasthitting minions. edit* damn i type slow >_< | ||
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