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Nokeboy
United States1009 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
EDIT: in case I wasn't obvious, I mean in general, not just for Anivia. | ||
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pokeyAA
United States936 Posts
i figure if i get sneezed on i'd die anyways treads or no treads glass cannon ftw | ||
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Nokeboy
United States1009 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On July 23 2010 03:22 Nokeboy wrote: Also with Anivia which is most used in high ELO, Swiftness or Sorcerer boots? i would go with sorc boots. the pen helps ALOT with damage. although merc is still really useful and worth considering depending on team comp | ||
NonY
8748 Posts
On July 23 2010 02:40 Mogwai wrote: CDR is the most overrated stat in the game. I don't know how people rate it so I can't comment on whether it's overrated but I definitely think it can be awesome on a lot of champs. If it allows you to get off a few extra abilities in a fight, then it blows away all other stats. If you didn't need to use those extra abilities or the fight didn't last long enough for your CDR to kick in, then it accomplishes nothing. | ||
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Pakje
Belgium288 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 23 2010 03:13 Athos wrote: Yeah, after killing the lizard and 2 golums, I've almost always used all 5 of my potions and have like sub 200 health. So at this point I usually just tp to base. Also, should I get a level of bandage toss at level 4 or should I just level tears and tantrum? I can't see Amumu really being able to gank without a level of q. Edit: I have too many mumu questions. When should I have tears on? I feel that tears train all my mp really quickly and tantrum is more cost efficient. I tp to base before lizard to heal, kill lizard, use potion, then gank. I don't think it's a good idea to kill the lizard before going to base, waste of buff time and this way lets me get my smite back for lizard as I use it on one of the small camps after using it on golem. Yeah I'd always get lvl 1 Q at 4 and not level it again until lvl 14 or something. http://c.zeroboy.net/clgame loci trying to make panth work | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
On July 23 2010 03:13 Athos wrote: Yeah, after killing the lizard and 2 golums, I've almost always used all 5 of my potions and have like sub 200 health. So at this point I usually just tp to base. Also, should I get a level of bandage toss at level 4 or should I just level tears and tantrum? I can't see Amumu really being able to gank without a level of q. Edit: I have too many mumu questions. When should I have tears on? I feel that tears train all my mp really quickly and tantrum is more cost efficient. What are you starting out with as items? Also, with blue buff, I can keep tears on whenever I need it, namely when I'm near enemy champs/creeps. And I go Bandage Toss (q) at lvl 4 usually. | ||
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Nokeboy
United States1009 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
On July 23 2010 04:07 Nokeboy wrote: Ooo, a Anivia, do pros get the wall earlier? pros max wall first and grief their teammates with it | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On July 23 2010 03:55 Pakje wrote: Can someone explain me why riot hasn't removed heimerdinger from the game. can i ask you why you say that? | ||
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
On July 23 2010 04:42 r33k wrote: When do tanks start leaving minion kills to the carry? Is there a level treshold or something? I'm not even talking about super-passive carries who just want to sit back and let minions get every hit except for the last one, but if you're a tank, you're not playing Sion and you run into low hp minions and splash them just to get the money you're going to get yelled at. Seriously, you're crippling your carry more than he could by going 0-2 before lv 6. Tanks are carries. Fuck that. I'm not even kidding, too. Be as greedy as you need on tanks, you need the money. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Because I just played a game where heimer and his team humped every tower with 3 of his turrets and just spammed grenade at the towers and they went down one by one and they won. every time someone would try to approach they died. When no one did approach the tower wasn't possible to be saved. That until inhib, then do to every lane until all inhibitors are down. Balanced champion | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 23 2010 03:51 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I don't know how people rate it so I can't comment on whether it's overrated but I definitely think it can be awesome on a lot of champs. If it allows you to get off a few extra abilities in a fight, then it blows away all other stats. If you didn't need to use those extra abilities or the fight didn't last long enough for your CDR to kick in, then it accomplishes nothing. In the early game, you're main constraint on harassment is mana, not CDs, so unless you're jungling (blue buff) or a non-mana user, I don't see them as all that useful during that phase. in the mid-late game mostly I find that fights don't last long enough for your 2nd ability uses to be much more than a luxury. Initial burst goes down and the battle is typically decided, with faster CDs typically only being useful for cleanup, where I typically consider needing to wait another second or two to not be an issue. On July 23 2010 03:55 Pakje wrote: Can someone explain me why riot hasn't removed heimerdinger from the game. because they still want to cater to the tower defense crowd... honestly, I think it's a pretty cool hero concept to have a guy much more about pushing and killing towers than heroes, but the way the concept actually plays out is boring as balls, so yea, w/e, fuck heim, they should just remove him. On July 23 2010 03:56 Shikyo wrote: http://c.zeroboy.net/clgame loci trying to make panth work at work so I can't watch, how's it working out for him. On July 23 2010 04:10 myopia wrote: pros max wall first and grief their teammates with it trololololo | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On July 23 2010 04:44 Shikyo wrote: Because I just played a game where heimer and his team humped every tower with 3 of his turrets and just spammed grenade at the towers and they went down one by one and they won. every time someone would try to approach they died. When no one did approach the tower wasn't possible to save. That until inhib, then do to every lane until all inhibitors are down. Balanced champion I’m going to step out on a limb and say you didn’t handle heimer in the laning phases of the game. Heimer has massive late-game momentum if he is unharassed during laning phases. There are many heroes which can do this easily. Ashe, Ezreal, Pantheon, and Poppy just to name a few are heroes I never want to see on the enemy team when I’m playing Heimer (and he is my main so I do that often) each of them have the ability to completely shut him down if they have even the faintest idea of how heimer plays. Most players bitch about heimer because they don’t know how to fight against him. Edit, also the way you summarized your game it appears your team went piecemeal into the entire enemy team - good playstyle | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 23 2010 04:43 Southlight wrote: Tanks are carries. Fuck that. I'm not even kidding, too. Be as greedy as you need on tanks, you need the money. not all tanks can output the type of damage that amumu can  . | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 23 2010 04:50 STS17 wrote: I’m going to step out on a limb and say you didn’t handle heimer in the laning phases of the game. Heimer has massive late-game momentum if he is unharassed during laning phases. There are many heroes which can do this easily. Ashe, Ezreal, Pantheon, and Poppy just to name a few are heroes I never want to see on the enemy team when I’m playing Heimer (and he is my main so I do that often) each of them have the ability to completely shut him down if they have even the faintest idea of how heimer plays. Most players bitch about heimer because they don’t know how to fight against him. I got first blood off him as Udyr at level 4 and our mid Karthus was one level higher than him. What more can I do? After that point he got 3 turrets there and pushed with his whole team until mid inhib went down, rinse and repeat. If you want to try to kill him, I hope your tank has fun running into 3 slowing rapid-fire turrets and 5 of their members. Needs to be a fucking amazing tank if you won't die right away,and after that your team will get completely walked over. I'd love you to show me your theorycraft in practice on how to beat a setup like that. After the firstblood when the next ganking situation arrived he already had his upgraded turrets along with his ultimate and that can't be dealt with in a reasonable way. Heimer became first blood and was 1 level lower than our mid, still at the end of the game he had 7 fucking tower kills and there was nothing we could do(part of the problem was that my team was a bunch of retarded morons) | ||
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