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Kultcher
United States150 Posts
I know, I know I should just find a guy somewhere but half of them are horribly written and the rest are outdated. :-/ | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 23 2010 05:08 Liquid`Tyler wrote: That's true. I was just trying to find a champ that CDR is nearly useless for and give a good reason lol. But seriously, CDR rocks on Kayle and Ryze No cdr is good on amumu because it's always nice to have his ulti up faster | ||
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NonY
8748 Posts
On July 23 2010 05:37 Shikyo wrote: No cdr is good on amumu because it's always nice to have his ulti up faster I won't deny that it's good to have a couple more amumu ults in a game but the question is whether CDR is better than getting other stats. If your team can control encounters and only go in when amumu is prepared to initiate, then CDR might not be that helpful | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 23 2010 05:37 Kultcher wrote: On a different topic, I'm thinking of picking up Udyr. Naturally I'll want to jungle. How should I be setting up my runes/masteries to jungle as effectively as possible, and what's the best jungling order? And since I don't actually have a lot of runes, will I still be able to jungle effectively at all if I don't have the right ones? I know, I know I should just find a guy somewhere but half of them are horribly written and the rest are outdated. :-/ attack speed marks and quints. mp5 or defensive seals and glyphs. CDR works if you don't think you need extra magic resist. The skilling order I use is R W R E R -> situational. The first 5 levels pretty much never alternate. You should max turtle if you think the shield is useful, Phoenix if you think you can't jungle fast enough(I think 3 is just fine at this point), bear if you think you need speed etc. I've been maxing turtle first, but I think I'll start maxing bear first because I use it by far the most and the mana cost decrease helps. You can either start with cloth armor and 5 pots or fort pot and 5 pots. I like cloth armor because I always build a HoG first and that way I can rush it really fast. Fort pot is better for the early gank, though. Golem at lvl 1 with Phoenix and one potion, should be relatively easy to kill if you have attack speed runes. Then you just do wolves, wraiths, and small golems. I use smite for the blue golem, and smite again for the first small golem right away(don't have to wait to lasthit). Pray that your mid teammate isn't retarded enough to steal exp from wraiths. After this, I b back to base to heal and buy my boots. Then I go and kill the lizard. Your smite should be back up again, at least with my build using utility mastery and improved smite. Finish lizard with smite, then you should hit level 4 if your teammate wasn't a moron who steals exp. At this point, you should look for ganking opportunities and gank with ghost and bear form. Along with the lizard buff, you should get a kill relatively easily. If no one is gankable at this point, you should just go back to the small wolves and they'll respawn soon after you're done with the lizard. Then just go from there. You'll be lvl 4 when mid is lvl 5 and sidelanes are 3 and you're good to go. EDIT: jungling without aspd runes is incredibly difficult, try to at least get lvl 1 marks and quints for the time being. You don't need that many. Just start with fort pot if you're in doubt and you'll be just fine no matter what. | ||
STS17
United States1817 Posts
On July 23 2010 05:45 Shikyo wrote: attack speed marks and quints. mp5 or defensive seals and glyphs. CDR works if you don't think you need extra magic resist. The skilling order I use is R W R E R -> situational. The first 5 levels pretty much never alternate. You should max turtle if you think the shield is useful, Phoenix if you think you can't jungle fast enough(I think 3 is just fine at this point), bear if you think you need speed etc. I've been maxing turtle first, but I think I'll start maxing bear first because I use it by far the most and the mana cost decrease helps. You can either start with cloth armor and 5 pots or fort pot and 5 pots. I like cloth armor because I always build a HoG first and that way I can rush it really fast. Fort pot is better for the early gank, though. Golem at lvl 1 with Phoenix and one potion, should be relatively easy to kill if you have attack speed runes. Then you just do wolves, wraiths, and small golems. I use smite for the blue golem, and smite again for the first small golem right away(don't have to wait to lasthit). Pray that your mid teammate isn't retarded enough to steal exp from wraiths. After this, I b back to base to heal and buy my boots. Then I go and kill the lizard. Your smite should be back up again, at least with my build using utility mastery and improved smite. Finish lizard with smite, then you should hit level 4 if your teammate wasn't a moron who steals exp. At this point, you should look for ganking opportunities and gank with ghost and bear form. Along with the lizard buff, you should get a kill relatively easily. If no one is gankable at this point, you should just go back to the small wolves and they'll respawn soon after you're done with the lizard. Then just go from there. You'll be lvl 4 when mid is lvl 5 and sidelanes are 3 and you're good to go. EDIT: jungling without aspd runes is incredibly difficult, try to at least get lvl 1 marks and quints for the time being. You don't need that many. Just start with fort pot if you're in doubt and you'll be just fine no matter what. I agree with this. If you are looking to forest with Udyr this is an excellent starting point for you. | ||
HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On July 23 2010 05:08 Liquid`Tyler wrote: That's true. I was just trying to find a champ that CDR is nearly useless for and give a good reason lol. But seriously, CDR rocks on Kayle and Ryze CDR rocks on nidalee too, buying cdr quints along with my glyphs for her. | ||
EZjijy
United States1039 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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EZjijy
United States1039 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
And then Udyr disconnects and we lose after 10 minutes of the most painful LoL of my life. | ||
Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On July 23 2010 06:16 Mogwai wrote: they made it so that cdr doesn't affect pounce, right? Yes but it's still great. | ||
Nafaltar
Germany302 Posts
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
On July 23 2010 06:29 Chrispy wrote: Woooow 40 minute epic game, we manage to ace their team and get baron... And then Udyr disconnects and we lose after 10 minutes of the most painful LoL of my life. oh well, 40 mins isnt thaaaat epic. 60+ mins is totally possible. feels really weird when you have the best equipment for your champ and 10000 gold in the bank for nothing. >_< | ||
Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
I'm qq'ing everywhere ya know?! hey oh hey oh! | ||
Southlight
United States11767 Posts
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
On July 23 2010 06:39 Nafaltar wrote: Obviously there are many ways to build a Jungle Udyr, but please for the love of all that is holy don't build tanking items early game. At most grab dodge boots if there is plenty physical dps. Otherwise go Rageblade into Nashors. Get one level of E at lvl 4 or 6 max out R then W, then go back to E. As for Masteries I suggest 9/21/0. Rune wise I personally use 3 ArP marks, 6 MP marks, MP quints, Armor seals and MR Glyphs. But AS, CDR, AP, Dodge etc are all valid options. horrible, horrible advice.. tank udyr is the only udyr | ||
myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Nafaltar
Germany302 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On July 23 2010 07:23 Southlight wrote: ![]() ![]() ^^ Hahaha. Well I'm probably going camping this weekend so I'm just massing up games. I've just got to embrace the pains of solo queue so that I may become one with it. Anyways Xin won me a game so I can go on with my life hahaha. | ||
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