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Russian Federation4235 Posts
On July 22 2010 23:51 Orpheos wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 23:42 Haemonculus wrote:
I try to get soulstealer on any champ with whom I'm not going to die often or at all. Kayle, for example. Sure I'm not racking in the kills non stop, but I get a *lot* of assists, and I hardly ever die. I'm bound to rack up those stacks by late game.
Hell, I've even picked up a soulstealer on Morde. the one issue i see with getting it on kayle is that you REALLY want grb/nashor immediately. each one is just so cost effective for kayle. so i cant see taking out ~1200 for the mejai. and after getting those two items, usually the game is over or you buy some survival and then just ward+pots. i guess if you have some really good tanks you could get it. damnit i wish i could main kayle
Why not main her? She's dirt cheap after all.
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i have her bought i just feel like if i play her ranked shes gonna get banned all the time
shes kinda my main already. i just play her after ive tried all the free champs and dont really like any of them.
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cool game. at lower levels people just cant output any damage and so we got pushed in the end....i think i just suck at finishing games:
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in the 1350-1400 range, it seems like I could always pick Kayle with 10th pick if I wanted to. No one bans her down here and no one picks her either, it's really sad. then again, I got a 4th pick heimer ftw last night too, so, w/e, people just suck :p
speaking of sucking, I'm 6-0 with heimer and 16-16 with not heimer. herp de derp.
oh and I won 2 games with Pantheon last night, but christ is he bad. thank god my opponents were ticklish enough for my HSS to tickle them to death.
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i also dont want to have one champ so much better than my other champs cause then in draft mode ill get shafted alot of the time and just play bad. then again i dont think ill be tearing it up in the ladder anyways. im prolly slightly below the average lvl 30 player.
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another problem with having all your eggs in one basket is that Riot could always nerf your champion and then you could go on an emo-fueled tier whoring binge that leaves you questioning why you even still play this stupid game.
from what I hear, that could be bad for your enjoyment of the game.
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Is % penetration applied before or after flat pen?
Say I've got 30 flat and 15% vs. someone with 100 MRes. Do I reduce them to:
100 - 100*.15 = 85 - 30 = 55
or
100 - 30 = 70 - 70*.15 = 59.5
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it used to be applied before, now it's applied after.
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Ryalis slowing effect applies when your hitting them with defile right? If so its good for chasing but damn its expensive. I always go RoA into zhonyas or maybe Void if they are stacking MR.
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yea, Rylai's applies to just about everything, even shit like defile, Amumu's despair, and Singed's poison trail. it also applies to Garen's judgement, which I find especially funny because he has no AP ratios.
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On July 23 2010 00:44 Mogwai wrote:
yea, Rylai's applies to just about everything, even shit like defile, Amumu's despair, and Singed's poison trail. it also applies to Garen's judgement, which I find especially funny because he has no AP ratios.
yea i was about to ask what does rylai not work with? that should be an easier question to answer. is there a thread somethwere?
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The Black Cleaver
+75 Attack Damage Passive: Physical attacks reduce your target's Armor by 12 for 5 seconds, (maximum 5 stacks).
Black Cleaver is armor reduc right? So it reduces armor by 60 at most if stacked? I'm wondering this because I'm thinking of playing corki, and I want to see if BC is a good item to rush (instead of IE or Trinity Force). With corki's E, he reduces another 50 armor. So total with BC, he reduces armor by 110. And armor reduc goes negative, right? So any char that does not stack armor (such as squishies) is taking about 35% more dmg from physical attacks (rounding to 75 armor at lvl18). Is this right?
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I dunno, there aren't any really relevant exceptions that I know about other than Ezreal's Mystic Shot.
EDIT: ^Yea, BC is really strong on Corki from what I've seen.
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On July 23 2010 00:44 Mogwai wrote:
yea, Rylai's applies to just about everything, even shit like defile, Amumu's despair, and Singed's poison trail. it also applies to Garen's judgement, which I find especially funny because he has no AP ratios.
I like Rylai's on amumu!! It's sooo expensive though... and I usually don't even see the difference.
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yea, it's more cute than anything else on Amumu. You can pretty much always invest that gold in a better way.
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Why does everyone rush Trinity Force on corki then? Besides the 130% attack after spell, it doesn't really give much benefit to Corki, esecially when he could really take advantage of his passive and armor reduc... Maknoon goes like Doran's blade, merc treds, trinity force.
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It doesn't work with toggled abilities with attacks like chogath's vorpal... that's pretty much it.
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On July 23 2010 00:55 Misder wrote:
Why does everyone rush Trinity Force on corki then? Besides the 130% attack after spell, it doesn't really give much benefit to Corki, esecially when he could really take advantage of his passive and armor reduc... Maknoon goes like Doran's blade, merc treds, trinity force.
er, it seems like everything on Trinity Force helps Corki. They might seem like individually small buffs, but they all seem relevant and there are a ton of them. I dunno, I used to see a lot of Black Cleaver on him though.
w/e, I'm not a corki player so I can't really help you.
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You could be like maknoon and main corki instead of panth 
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I wouldn't look down on the 130% after cast bonus from trinity force. Considering his gattling gun reducing armor and his spammable ulti, trinity force gives the equivalence of like +100AD to corki in a battle.
Everything else on it is also good, plus building trinity force itself (sheen, then phage) results in a strong early-mid game. FAR stronger than, say, rushing infinities edge.
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