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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Mogwai
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On July 22 2010 05:25 Shikyo wrote: Ranked has plenty of baddies as well. The main thing that sucks about normal is that you can't ban heimer shaco and xin zhao not denying ranked doesnt have baddies. the banning is nice. although whos to say the definitive format for competitive play is ban+draft+no ditto matchups? | ||
floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On July 22 2010 05:12 TieN.nS) wrote: I pretty much just imagine floor exercise as a kid at a carnival crying over them raising the "must be this tall to ride" limit. Does new information suggest that the current height requirement poses a serious threat to riders? They only did this to appease people after starting them all at 1200 became such a huge clusterfuck. -Lower levels trending towards the bottom of the ladder. This is not only acceptable but evidence that solo queue is working as intended. They are the least experienced and have fewer runes/masteries. This alone, if you discount the level 20s who were above 1200 with positive winrates, isn't a valid reason to disallow/ban/forbid/whichever word won't incite pedantic rantings level 20s from participating. -Higher proportion of leavers at the lower ranks. Again this is kind of to be expected. This is a systematic problem that will exist regardless of who is on the bottom. There will be more leavers on the bottom than on the top. Again, it's just not a good reason to forbid them all from playing. The bottom is going to be a cesspool regardless. It's going to be hard to get out of that when everyone starts at 1200. These are incontrovertible facts, the depths of badness in LoL/HoN/Dota are unfathomable. What they should have done: implement some sort of tax relative to your summoner level. A level 30 starts at 1200, a level 25 starts at 1100, etc etc. You could feasibly go all the way down to level 1s if you truly wanted. It would actually be really interesting to see how far a top player could go on a level 1 account. But for arguments sake start it at level 20 like it was. Maybe 20s start at 1000. People with the ability to work their way up will do so eventually, people who can't won't initially be in the way of all the bad 30s who refuse to accept it, who will find other factors to blame instead of level 20s. There's going to be some placebo effect, most level 30s think this is some victory for them and that surely now they will be "mid-high elo" like they purport to be on the forums. Riot might sell some more xp potions, less level 30s will get discouraged etc. Keep in mind I'm sure SC2 coming out is at least somewhat threatening to their playerbase so it's not too far of a stretch to consider this sort of move battening down the hatches | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 22 2010 05:28 Orpheos wrote: not denying ranked doesnt have baddies. the banning is nice. although whos to say the definitive format for competitive play is ban+draft+no ditto matchups? Well, if not, you'll just have heimer soraka xin zhao taric shaco mirror all day long and that's not too interesting now is it floor excercise: and what you should do is get to lvl 30 | ||
Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
the reason why they wont do the tax is that(i think uta pointed this out) for elo to work you need an "average" player. really what they should of done is have everyone allowed to play ranked and everyone start at the same level. hmm i wonder if riot has ever had something like that. in the end riot fucked up. but all is not lost! you can still play ranked by getting to lvl 30. and until then you can still play with people your level instead of the clusterfuck that is ranked play right now. it sucks i know. shikyo yea that is boring, but is it competitive play? again i dont know if i think either one is the definitive competitive format, i just think there isnt a clear answer. i think they should have blind pick and draft available to everyone *edit also reminds me of people bitching about fox/falco all day long in melee. which has SIGNIFICANTLY more imbalance than LoL | ||
STS17
United States1817 Posts
On July 22 2010 05:25 Shikyo wrote: Ranked has plenty of baddies as well. The main thing that sucks about normal is that you can't ban heimer shaco and xin zhao Why does everyone ban heimer anyways? He's my friggen main and I can't play ranked because my team captain always bans him... | ||
Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 22 2010 05:38 STS17 wrote: Why does everyone ban heimer anyways? He's my friggen main and I can't play ranked because my team captain always bans him... errr, because he's horrifically OP if you don't counter him and even if you do, he's still wicked good. | ||
Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
And then there're the heroes people ban because good players on them are really nasty. Like Kayle and Ezreal. | ||
BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
On July 22 2010 04:05 Mogwai wrote: I'd love to feel sorry for you, but any heimer loss is awesome in my book. this :D..!!! | ||
pokeyAA
United States936 Posts
[QUOTE]On July 22 2010 03:45 pokeyAA wrote: Lol i love shittalkers, had this Ryze go "Mess with the best, die like the rest!" cuz he killed us in a team fight. 30 minutes later our team was spamming that back at him as we took down his last towers. Karma's a bitch[/QUOTE] Haha, were we playing the same game? My friend and I were Blitzcrank/Ashe. [QUOTE]On July 22 2010 03:55 Slaughter wrote: Bannng sub 30s just pisses them off. Seen too many horrible 30s to justify it.[/QUOTE] Haha I think so. I was smurfing around trying out Kassadin again. I was annoyed at our Xin for going attack speed and being useless. I was especially annoyed at our Nasus for instead of ganking the other team doing Baron, or letting you hook, he decided instead to throw down a spirit fire, tipping the other team off to run away safely. Then he had the bright idea of going for Baron when the whole other team was still at Golem and getting half our team killed. I'm glad you and your friend were blitz/ashe, or I woulda been disappointed in you lol. | ||
Shikyo
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
Edit: I've pretty much been banning Heimer/Shaco/Kayle every time I have banrights... I can take being beaten by better players but I'd rather be beaten by people like grandjudge playing something skill-based (Annie, Akali etc.) than being bludgeoned to death by a good player playing a great hero (Kayle). | ||
Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Scip
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Was thinking of someone who could jungle well and also carry somewhat well. Udyr, Xin Zhao perhaps... Warwick.. choices, choices. Could also buy Nidalee but I think she's just not made for me =/ | ||
ghen
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craaaaack
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![]() I swear none of those was premade. All solo mm. | ||
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