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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 21 2010 20:25 GMT
#7401
Ranked has plenty of baddies as well. The main thing that sucks about normal is that you can't ban heimer shaco and xin zhao
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 21 2010 20:28 GMT
#7402
so just pick heimer and farm XP quickly with 10 minute golem pushes.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 21 2010 20:28 GMT
#7403
On July 22 2010 05:25 Shikyo wrote:
Ranked has plenty of baddies as well. The main thing that sucks about normal is that you can't ban heimer shaco and xin zhao


not denying ranked doesnt have baddies.
the banning is nice. although whos to say the definitive format for competitive play is ban+draft+no ditto matchups?
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
July 21 2010 20:28 GMT
#7404
On July 22 2010 05:12 TieN.nS) wrote:
I pretty much just imagine floor exercise as a kid at a carnival crying over them raising the "must be this tall to ride" limit.

Does new information suggest that the current height requirement poses a serious threat to riders?

They only did this to appease people after starting them all at 1200 became such a huge clusterfuck.

-Lower levels trending towards the bottom of the ladder. This is not only acceptable but evidence that solo queue is working as intended. They are the least experienced and have fewer runes/masteries. This alone, if you discount the level 20s who were above 1200 with positive winrates, isn't a valid reason to disallow/ban/forbid/whichever word won't incite pedantic rantings level 20s from participating.

-Higher proportion of leavers at the lower ranks. Again this is kind of to be expected. This is a systematic problem that will exist regardless of who is on the bottom. There will be more leavers on the bottom than on the top. Again, it's just not a good reason to forbid them all from playing.

The bottom is going to be a cesspool regardless. It's going to be hard to get out of that when everyone starts at 1200. These are incontrovertible facts, the depths of badness in LoL/HoN/Dota are unfathomable.

What they should have done:

implement some sort of tax relative to your summoner level. A level 30 starts at 1200, a level 25 starts at 1100, etc etc. You could feasibly go all the way down to level 1s if you truly wanted. It would actually be really interesting to see how far a top player could go on a level 1 account. But for arguments sake start it at level 20 like it was. Maybe 20s start at 1000. People with the ability to work their way up will do so eventually, people who can't won't initially be in the way of all the bad 30s who refuse to accept it, who will find other factors to blame instead of level 20s.

There's going to be some placebo effect, most level 30s think this is some victory for them and that surely now they will be "mid-high elo" like they purport to be on the forums. Riot might sell some more xp potions, less level 30s will get discouraged etc. Keep in mind I'm sure SC2 coming out is at least somewhat threatening to their playerbase so it's not too far of a stretch to consider this sort of move battening down the hatches
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 20:29:58
July 21 2010 20:29 GMT
#7405
On July 22 2010 05:28 Orpheos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 05:25 Shikyo wrote:
Ranked has plenty of baddies as well. The main thing that sucks about normal is that you can't ban heimer shaco and xin zhao


not denying ranked doesnt have baddies.
the banning is nice. although whos to say the definitive format for competitive play is ban+draft+no ditto matchups?

Well, if not, you'll just have heimer soraka xin zhao taric shaco mirror all day long and that's not too interesting now is it



floor excercise: and what you should do is get to lvl 30
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 20:39:25
July 21 2010 20:37 GMT
#7406
see floor exercise? i agree with alot of what you said there.

the reason why they wont do the tax is that(i think uta pointed this out) for elo to work you need an "average" player. really what they should of done is have everyone allowed to play ranked and everyone start at the same level. hmm i wonder if riot has ever had something like that.

in the end riot fucked up. but all is not lost! you can still play ranked by getting to lvl 30. and until then you can still play with people your level instead of the clusterfuck that is ranked play right now. it sucks i know.

shikyo
yea that is boring, but is it competitive play? again i dont know if i think either one is the definitive competitive format, i just think there isnt a clear answer.
i think they should have blind pick and draft available to everyone

*edit
also reminds me of people bitching about fox/falco all day long in melee. which has SIGNIFICANTLY more imbalance than LoL
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
July 21 2010 20:38 GMT
#7407
On July 22 2010 05:25 Shikyo wrote:
Ranked has plenty of baddies as well. The main thing that sucks about normal is that you can't ban heimer shaco and xin zhao


Why does everyone ban heimer anyways? He's my friggen main and I can't play ranked because my team captain always bans him...
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
July 21 2010 20:42 GMT
#7408
Because a good Heimer is unstoppable and a bad Heimer is still annoying, plus most people don't know how to deal with him.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 21 2010 20:43 GMT
#7409
On July 22 2010 05:38 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 05:25 Shikyo wrote:
Ranked has plenty of baddies as well. The main thing that sucks about normal is that you can't ban heimer shaco and xin zhao


Why does everyone ban heimer anyways? He's my friggen main and I can't play ranked because my team captain always bans him...

errr, because he's horrifically OP if you don't counter him and even if you do, he's still wicked good.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 21 2010 20:59 GMT
#7410
haha did you guys check out the league lookout contest. some of them are meh. come of them are awesome. then theres the total fail cosplay by some white guy. im surprised someone didnt do a full on cosplay even though i am really bothered by cosplayers >_<
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 21 2010 20:59 GMT
#7411
For the most part bans are around to prevent heroes that're annoying to play against. Heimer forces one team to teampush really fast, and the other team is forced to counter him, that's annoying. Shaco is the god of ganks, god of jungling, and produces the most map control in the game since old TF, that's annoying (not invincible, annoying).

And then there're the heroes people ban because good players on them are really nasty. Like Kayle and Ezreal.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
July 21 2010 21:04 GMT
#7412
On July 22 2010 04:05 Mogwai wrote:
I'd love to feel sorry for you, but any heimer loss is awesome in my book.


this :D..!!!
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
pokeyAA
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States936 Posts
July 21 2010 21:09 GMT
#7413
[QUOTE]On July 22 2010 04:55 guoguo wrote:
[QUOTE]On July 22 2010 03:45 pokeyAA wrote:
Lol i love shittalkers, had this Ryze go "Mess with the best, die like the rest!" cuz he killed us in a team fight.

30 minutes later our team was spamming that back at him as we took down his last towers.

Karma's a bitch[/QUOTE]
Haha, were we playing the same game? My friend and I were Blitzcrank/Ashe.


[QUOTE]On July 22 2010 03:55 Slaughter wrote:
Bannng sub 30s just pisses them off. Seen too many horrible 30s to justify it.[/QUOTE]

Haha I think so. I was smurfing around trying out Kassadin again. I was annoyed at our Xin for going attack speed and being useless. I was especially annoyed at our Nasus for instead of ganking the other team doing Baron, or letting you hook, he decided instead to throw down a spirit fire, tipping the other team off to run away safely. Then he had the bright idea of going for Baron when the whole other team was still at Golem and getting half our team killed. I'm glad you and your friend were blitz/ashe, or I woulda been disappointed in you lol.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 21 2010 21:17 GMT
#7414
Mmm dude just had a game with jungling Shaco where I just ran around with a madreds razors for 20 minutes, just taking every jungle minion and killing people non-stop. I think that this is probably the easiest way to win solo queue ever, if they have no jungler you're 100% guaranteed to win if you're even halfway decent. Had like 5000 gold after a while, bought stuff, game ends. Soo yeah, hopefully they'll nerf shaco, I feel like an asshole for abusing the game like this.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 21:22:06
July 21 2010 21:18 GMT
#7415
That is sort of why he's usually banned.

Edit:
I've pretty much been banning Heimer/Shaco/Kayle every time I have banrights... I can take being beaten by better players but I'd rather be beaten by people like grandjudge playing something skill-based (Annie, Akali etc.) than being bludgeoned to death by a good player playing a great hero (Kayle).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 21 2010 21:21 GMT
#7416
Yep, and the reason I always ban him. I did lantern + guardian angel and with that it's already completely retarded
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
July 21 2010 21:23 GMT
#7417
Add me to the EU players please! My nick there is Scipaeus121212 (surprise, surprise!!). I'm currently level 16 and raising as a Cho'Gath .
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 21 2010 21:25 GMT
#7418
I have 3150 IP now and would like to buy a champion that costs 3150. What should I buy O_o

Was thinking of someone who could jungle well and also carry somewhat well. Udyr, Xin Zhao perhaps... Warwick.. choices, choices. Could also buy Nidalee but I think she's just not made for me =/
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
July 21 2010 21:41 GMT
#7419
Go for Udyr just to be different.
craaaaack
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 21:44:48
July 21 2010 21:44 GMT
#7420
Buy Zilean. Best champ ever. If you have the skill to play him you can be a fucking killing machine. Time to brag? Yes.

[image loading]

I swear none of those was premade. All solo mm.
▲ I was really thirsty while playing a match. All my teammates were gone, so I drank from the water bottle that was next to me. It was very good. I thank the owner of the bottle.
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