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Shikyo
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Brees
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pokeyAA
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30 minutes later our team was spamming that back at him as we took down his last towers. Karma's a bitch | ||
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Maero
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On July 22 2010 03:36 Mogwai wrote: I'm really ready to give up on Riot forums... Wise words :p There's no use trying to talk to them - you had it right the first time. I've been bemoaning my luck with solo queue, but then I just decided to pick annie and solo mid every time; my ELO has been jumping ever since. It'll probably not be necessary when ranked matchmaking stops being awful (I hope), but for now the only way to consistently win is to carry your undeserving teammates to a victory whether they like it or not. (The thing about banning sub-30 players from ranked play will probably help a lot too) | ||
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Slaughter
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Shikyo
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On July 22 2010 03:55 Slaughter wrote: Bannng sub 30s just pisses them off. Seen too many horrible 30s to justify it. allowing people without the third quint and without every mastery is stupid. Just get to lvl 30 with normal mode, we all did it | ||
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Orpheos
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On July 22 2010 03:55 Slaughter wrote: Bannng sub 30s just pisses them off. Seen too many horrible 30s to justify it. again i dont see how this argument has any validity to it. by "banning"(its not like youre never gonna get to 30 and the 30s had to do it anyways) sub 30s, you are most likely taking more bad players out than good. you are more likely taking out the casuals that might leave or not care, because they havent put the time investment into getting to 30. if you really are a good sub 30er chances are you are gonna get to 30 soon enough, and waiting a couple weeks(especially becasue ladder will be more balanced by then) isnt gonna hurt you much. ranked is not the whole game. play the game for fun not for stats and bragging rights. the only good point that has been brought up is that sub 30s should still be able to 5man premade. | ||
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Mogwai
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floor exercise
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On July 22 2010 04:01 Orpheos wrote: again i dont see how this argument has any validity to it. by "banning"(its not like youre never gonna get to 30 and the 30s had to do it anyways) sub 30s, you are most likely taking more bad players out than good. you are more likely taking out the casuals that might leave or not care, because they havent put the time investment into getting to 30. if you really are a good sub 30er chances are you are gonna get to 30 soon enough, and waiting a couple weeks(especially becasue ladder will be more balanced by then) isnt gonna hurt you much. ranked is not the whole game. play the game for fun not for stats and bragging rights. the only good point that has been brought up is that sub 30s should still be able to 5man premade. So what? Since when is it acceptable to ban players from a ladder for being bad? isn't that the function of the ladder itself, to accurately rate players and match them up with people of the same ability/skill level? It makes no fucking sense. You can load up HoN right now, and go play MM. if you suck, you suck. If you are good, you are good. Do masteries/runes change that a bit? Yes, it changes things fractionally at most. It's still absurd to think it's ok to ban people from playing a ladder cause they trend towards lower win rates. Someone has to be on the bottom of a ladder. That's the fucking point. have you ever seen a ladder floating in mid air? No, because the bottom rungs are touching the ground. What is it about LoL that makes people think games played is a better determinant than actual skill? Even here, on a SC forum. Should we ban D- players from ICCUP? | ||
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Brees
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On July 22 2010 04:13 floor exercise wrote: So what? Since when is it acceptable to ban players from a ladder for being bad? isn't that the function of the ladder itself, to accurately rate players and match them up with people of the same ability/skill level? It makes no fucking sense. You can load up HoN right now, and go play MM. if you suck, you suck. If you are good, you are good. Do masteries/runes change that a bit? Yes, it changes things fractionally at most. It's still absurd to think it's ok to ban people from playing a ladder cause they trend towards lower win rates. Someone has to be on the bottom of a ladder. That's the fucking point. have you ever seen a ladder floating in mid air? No, because the bottom rungs are touching the ground. What is it about LoL that makes people think games played is a better determinant than actual skill? Even here, on a SC forum. Should we ban D- players from ICCUP? team game vs solo play. people were upset that they had people with lesser masteries on their teams and from the statistics they tend to leave/lose more. of course I dont really care at all because after seeing the 1200-ish bracket I could carry 3v5 there. so whatever people are just bad | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On July 22 2010 04:13 floor exercise wrote: So what? Since when is it acceptable to ban players from a ladder for being bad? isn't that the function of the ladder itself, to accurately rate players and match them up with people of the same ability/skill level? It makes no fucking sense. You can load up HoN right now, and go play MM. if you suck, you suck. If you are good, you are good. Do masteries/runes change that a bit? Yes, it changes things fractionally at most. It's still absurd to think it's ok to ban people from playing a ladder cause they trend towards lower win rates. Someone has to be on the bottom of a ladder. That's the fucking point. have you ever seen a ladder floating in mid air? No, because the bottom rungs are touching the ground. What is it about LoL that makes people think games played is a better determinant than actual skill? Even here, on a SC forum. Should we ban D- players from ICCUP? lol? you idiots need to stop throwing around the word ban. no one is banned. its the same ladder as before except level restriction has been raised from 20 to 30. why was it 20 before? why did you BAN all those people? cause they were too low level? i think the BAN on 20-29 was there mostly for leavers not just for bad people. you can load up LoL right now at level whatever and get better MM than playing ranked games. you know what its called? normal games. youve been playing it all along. if you really want ranked which is supposed to be competitive, play normal abit more just like all the lvl30s did. and again note, i am level 28 and im perfectly fine waiting it out cause i dont have a dire need to stroke my e-peen by seeing my name up on a ladder. | ||
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Orpheos
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oh well ill use this double post for something. everyone assumes that the ladder will settle down into elo brackets just like normal before, but thats not necessarily the case. yes it will settle at high and low elos. but itll suck if your "real" elo ends up being around 1200, because you will be continuously be being matched with all the new lvl30s and have similar volatility problems that the ladder has right now. not sure how to fix it, but just a general comment. | ||
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floor exercise
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On July 22 2010 04:21 Orpheos wrote: lol? you idiots need to stop throwing around the word ban. no one is banned. its the same ladder as before except level restriction has been raised from 20 to 30. why was it 20 before? why did you BAN all those people? cause they were too low level? i think the BAN on 20-29 was there mostly for leavers not just for bad people. you can load up LoL right now at level whatever and get better MM than playing ranked games. you know what its called? normal games. youve been playing it all along. if you really want ranked which is supposed to be competitive, play normal abit more just like all the lvl30s did. The difference being that before S1, I could reach the same level as 30s and play with them, because that was where I belong. Now it's the slums. Awesome, if I work at it, I can be the king of shit. I could play ranked yesterday, today I am banned from it until I reach level 30. Ban is synonymous with prohibit, forbid, etc. I am sorry you don't like the fact that I am using that word, but it's perfectly acceptable. Also basing the justification of leavers is bullshit too. I'm sure they will neglect to post the stats that show that leave % remains highest among the lowest ranked players, regardless of what level they happen to be. | ||
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Mogwai
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you're still on the level of the people who you're getting MMed against in Normal games. it's just now it's the above average 22s and not the average 30s. I'm with most people on the, "christ, I really don't care about the ban, I just wish it didn't cause so much e-drama," stance, but w/e, in the grand scheme of things, it's pretty darn irrelevant. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On July 22 2010 04:26 floor exercise wrote: I could play ranked yesterday, today I am banned from it until I reach level 30. Ban is synonymous with prohibit, forbid, etc. I am sorry you don't like the fact that I am using that word, but it's perfectly acceptable. wow im not even gonna argue with you. gonna leave you with post from trynd http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2060971#post2060971 | ||
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floor exercise
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On July 22 2010 04:30 Orpheos wrote: wow im not even gonna argue with you. gonna leave you with post from trynd http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=2060971#post2060971 Well this completely changes the English language, that you for linking it | ||
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Orpheos
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On July 22 2010 04:31 floor exercise wrote: Well this completely changes the English language, that you for linking it english language never changed. I guess you just never had a good understanding of it. | ||
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