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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 21 2010 15:58 GMT
#7341
On July 22 2010 00:41 Slaughter wrote:
Because there are so many shit level 30s, level doesn't matter,

How does it even make sense if you have some people without full mastery tree and full rune pages? Don't be stupid, everyone having to be lvl 30 is the only way it makes sense.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 21 2010 15:59 GMT
#7342
Level doesn't matter, win count doesn't matter, but Riot decided there was enough reason (~3%) to shut down non-level 30s.
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Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 16:01:00
July 21 2010 16:00 GMT
#7343
Whoever said trinity force wasn't good on corki doesn't know jack #$@*&()
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 16:03:26
July 21 2010 16:03 GMT
#7344
On July 21 2010 23:58 Mogwai wrote:
since I was on vaca when you were power leveling, I'm still stuck at garbage ELO, so again... I got 4th pick heimer... my team also had kayle and ezreal, gotten with 8 and 9 picks...

siiiiiiiiiiiiigh, I'm slowly climbing, but god, people are just so bad still.


I just played with HeavOnEarth(EzPz) until the mid-late 1400s... playing with 5HIT was fine raising me from late 1400s to low 1500s, too. Just find someone even competent and if you can carry or something you can easily get up :o

Edit:
Actually with EzPz I got into the mid 1500s.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 21 2010 16:03 GMT
#7345
On July 22 2010 00:59 Southlight wrote:
Level doesn't matter, win count doesn't matter, but Riot decided there was enough reason (~3%) to shut down non-level 30s.

available masteries and rune slots does matter, otherwise no yeah
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 16:12:40
July 21 2010 16:06 GMT
#7346
Beating a dead horse, but at 1450 I played Tryndamere with caster runes (magic pen/mana regen/mana regen), caster masteries, and clarity/revive, and still managed to prop up a positive k/d record while half of my team epic failed. Masteries and runes help, but don't trump just being better. The real problem with sub 30s is that the majority of them suck, one way (or a few!) or other. They just don't realize it.

This is obviously not an all-encompassing thing. Of the 40% win rate exhibited by sub-30s I'd imagine most of the winning is concentrated on a few. I had a level 27 Sivir two nights ago with 1450 rating who had no idea what Shen did, but he did fine. However this means the 40% win rate is further biased - take out the good few and you end up with dreadful win rates for the vast, vast majority of sub-30s.

Edit:
Anyways my main point goes back to what I posted before. According to Zileas RadJacob's nonranked Elo was around 2150 at the start of season 1. I assumed based on that I was in the 2200s, if not the 2300s. To no real surprise, aside from a bad night, I've rather seamlessly floated toward the upper echelon of the ladder. And this is during a volatile period where you're decisively affected by "luck of the draw" at middling-high elos, because one win or loss vaults you several hundred ranks easily. As the ladder settles down, people who hit level 30 in nonrank should easily, EASILY float to their "supposed level" when they do become eligible for ladder. If you can't reach where you'd estimated you were when the ladder settles down, it just means you're clearly not as good as you thought you were.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 21 2010 16:13 GMT
#7347
On July 21 2010 13:10 Athos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 09:18 Shikyo wrote:
On July 21 2010 08:31 nennx wrote:
On July 21 2010 08:03 Athos wrote:
Hey, does anybody know how to jungle Nasus/ is it even a good idea? In the 2 games I tried it I failed epically and was unable to kill golum for way too long and died like 3 times. Really embarrassing actually.

Of course nasus works great as a 1v2 or just a laner, but I want to be able to pick a jungler not named Shaco/warwick.


I don't think nasus is viable in the jungle until you have level 2 or 3 spirit fire at least

Fiddlesticks, olaf, or xin are all decent junglers too


Nasus has no problems jungling at all



Can you explain how it works then? I'm looking all over the internet and I can't find anything.


Also I just rocked a 1v2 lane with Nasus. He's so good when you build him tanky. It's like Randium's Omen was made for the guy.

Didn't see if anyone explained yet.

E first, kill golem at lvl 1. you have a passive 10% lifesteal so it's npnp. Start with chainmail and pots. Then you just E every camp and spam Q to lasthit, super easy and you stay at full hp because of lifesteal working with siphon.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 21 2010 16:16 GMT
#7348
i thought the elo cap was like 2400 so guess i wasnt too far from it then...
Brees on in
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 16:18:22
July 21 2010 16:17 GMT
#7349
On July 22 2010 01:16 Brees wrote:
i thought the elo cap was like 2400 so guess i wasnt too far from it then...


Did they implement an elo cap? AFAIK elo systems aren't supposed to have caps, thus elo peaks constantly rising in SC and the overall average elo creeping upward in chess.

It wouldn't surprise me to see the jiji/grandjudge level of players in the 2600 range to be honest, assuming the lack of a cap.
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
July 21 2010 16:27 GMT
#7350
On July 22 2010 01:06 Southlight wrote:
As the ladder settles down, people who hit level 30 in nonrank should easily, EASILY float to their "supposed level" when they do become eligible for ladder. If you can't reach where you'd estimated you were when the ladder settles down, it just means you're clearly not as good as you thought you were.


this is why im was just waiting it out to play ranked. cause nothing pisses me off more than having really unbalanced teams. even if you have all the good players its kinda boring.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
July 21 2010 16:44 GMT
#7351
Well, I just played my first ranked game and 2 of my teammates left before the 10 minute mark after feeding their lane horribly.

Played my second ranked game and won an amazing, epic ~1 hour game whit Rammus. Really good back and forth action.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 21 2010 16:52 GMT
#7352
On July 22 2010 01:03 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 23:58 Mogwai wrote:
since I was on vaca when you were power leveling, I'm still stuck at garbage ELO, so again... I got 4th pick heimer... my team also had kayle and ezreal, gotten with 8 and 9 picks...

siiiiiiiiiiiiigh, I'm slowly climbing, but god, people are just so bad still.


I just played with HeavOnEarth(EzPz) until the mid-late 1400s... playing with 5HIT was fine raising me from late 1400s to low 1500s, too. Just find someone even competent and if you can carry or something you can easily get up :o

Edit:
Actually with EzPz I got into the mid 1500s.

*shrugs* that's been my theory too, and it's more or less working out. it's just slow... need Turkey to play more.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
July 21 2010 17:37 GMT
#7353
On July 22 2010 01:52 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 01:03 Southlight wrote:
On July 21 2010 23:58 Mogwai wrote:
since I was on vaca when you were power leveling, I'm still stuck at garbage ELO, so again... I got 4th pick heimer... my team also had kayle and ezreal, gotten with 8 and 9 picks...

siiiiiiiiiiiiigh, I'm slowly climbing, but god, people are just so bad still.


I just played with HeavOnEarth(EzPz) until the mid-late 1400s... playing with 5HIT was fine raising me from late 1400s to low 1500s, too. Just find someone even competent and if you can carry or something you can easily get up :o

Edit:
Actually with EzPz I got into the mid 1500s.

*shrugs* that's been my theory too, and it's more or less working out. it's just slow... need Turkey to play more.


Yep. Premade with atombomb4peace who played a carry; so much better than solo queue + prayer.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 21 2010 17:55 GMT
#7354
oh my god last night i had a game with the most HILARIOUS karthus you've ever seen. he didn't want mid, so i went soraka to lane with him. i figured unlimited mana = unlimited harass right?

nah. he used lay waste to last hit, never once hitting the opposing champs. granted it was a tough lane (morgana blitzcrank) but it would have been a lot less so if he wasn't letting them play so aggressively.

so we enter mid-game, i leave the lane and start helping the other dudes on my team, karthus just stays in that lane. THE WHOLE GAME. he never once left top lane. "4 push i push 1" he would always say. if they were coming to gank him he'd hide in a bush or go back to base, then immediately continue his pushing. lategame when they were pushing with 5 real hard, he'd STAY TOP. if they were pushing top, he'd hide til they pushed past him, then just push behind them.

finally it gets to the point where they're clearly gearing up for their last push. they all disappear (he goes into hiding in top bushes), the rest of us gather mid. they pop back into mid lane with baron, start pushing it hard with all 5. he continues his solo push top. we hold them at the tower for like a whole minute before they just dominate the 4 of us, and kill our inhib. meanwhile he gets their inhib down and immediately dies when they send 1 person back to kill him. the other 4 push our nexus GG

in a 45+ minute game, he was 2-3-1. he was involved in 6 kills in a 45 minute time period, and his 3 deaths were all from morgana/blitz in lane. 234 creep kills, about 100 more than anyone else, with great items, and refused to join in team fights. the whole game we were saying "WE NEED YOUR HELP IN TEAMFIGHTS PLEASE KARTHUS" which always just got "you push 4 i push 1"

and after the game he raged at us for "you lose 4v4 with tower??? noobs! fu,ck noob!" i couldn't stop laughing.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Corvi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany1406 Posts
July 21 2010 18:12 GMT
#7355
karthus is free this week, what do you expect.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 21 2010 18:16 GMT
#7356
On July 22 2010 02:55 gtrsrs wrote:
oh my god last night i had a game with the most HILARIOUS karthus you've ever seen. he didn't want mid, so i went soraka to lane with him. i figured unlimited mana = unlimited harass right?

nah. he used lay waste to last hit, never once hitting the opposing champs. granted it was a tough lane (morgana blitzcrank) but it would have been a lot less so if he wasn't letting them play so aggressively.

so we enter mid-game, i leave the lane and start helping the other dudes on my team, karthus just stays in that lane. THE WHOLE GAME. he never once left top lane. "4 push i push 1" he would always say. if they were coming to gank him he'd hide in a bush or go back to base, then immediately continue his pushing. lategame when they were pushing with 5 real hard, he'd STAY TOP. if they were pushing top, he'd hide til they pushed past him, then just push behind them.

finally it gets to the point where they're clearly gearing up for their last push. they all disappear (he goes into hiding in top bushes), the rest of us gather mid. they pop back into mid lane with baron, start pushing it hard with all 5. he continues his solo push top. we hold them at the tower for like a whole minute before they just dominate the 4 of us, and kill our inhib. meanwhile he gets their inhib down and immediately dies when they send 1 person back to kill him. the other 4 push our nexus GG

in a 45+ minute game, he was 2-3-1. he was involved in 6 kills in a 45 minute time period, and his 3 deaths were all from morgana/blitz in lane. 234 creep kills, about 100 more than anyone else, with great items, and refused to join in team fights. the whole game we were saying "WE NEED YOUR HELP IN TEAMFIGHTS PLEASE KARTHUS" which always just got "you push 4 i push 1"

and after the game he raged at us for "you lose 4v4 with tower??? noobs! fu,ck noob!" i couldn't stop laughing.

He's clearly read the Shikyo's LoL handbook
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 18:21:29
July 21 2010 18:18 GMT
#7357
I should have took a screenshot but I went 16-3-8 with AP warwick in a ranked game yesterday, had 20 stacks. My Ult + deathfire + Q would instagib anyone lolol

its in my profile though

the karthus story reminded me since i just use my brees account to troll ranked games
Brees on in
Maero
Profile Joined December 2007
349 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 18:47:18
July 21 2010 18:21 GMT
#7358
On July 21 2010 20:31 Kaniol wrote:
My friend just sent me this images;
[image loading]

Thoughts?

At first i was like "oh wow such a cool champ" but then i realized that he will probably be another Malzahar that offers to his team (except the damage) 1 mass slow which "forces" him into 2.5 sec zhonya, ult that increases damage dealt for whooping 5 secs and mass heal with 0.5 AP ratio, so i'm a bit skeptical now


I can't believe I'm the only one who has been playing AoS-style games for long enough to recognize the references to the bloodmage in Tides of Blood.

Know your roots, DotA players! :p

EDIT: I should add that I will be playing the hell out of this hero, if only for that very reason alone
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 21 2010 18:36 GMT
#7359
I'm really ready to give up on Riot forums...
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 21 2010 18:40 GMT
#7360
What's AoS?
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
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