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On June 14 2010 08:25 Liquid`NonY wrote: game found --> finish what i was doing --> save rune book --> pick rune page for that game and whatever changes you just made are not there. beta game -_-
exactly this happened to me today too. was like wtf?!
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i just realized this happened today. i thought it was saturday today, but clearly i was very mistaken. i'm sorry for not showing up (although i doubt it made a difference)
looks like it was a blast however !
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**TL TOURNAMENT #2 FINAL STANDINGS** First Place: Team Gozey 3-0 Second Place: Team Utahime 2-1 Third Place: Team Ruken 1-2 Fourth Place: Team Keyboarder 0-3
After some great games, Team Gozey again comes out undefeated! Team Utahime takes second place with 2 wins and 1 loss, while Team Ruken finishes 3rd with 1 win and 2 losses. Team Keyboarder is forever banned from future tournaments (lol j/k).
TEAMS: Team Gozey Soloside EzPzLmnSqz Aaerox Zack Skyy
Team Utahime Brees PokeyHokey B12ad Desirous
Team Ruken Soner RadJacob Colossus ShakeDrizzle
Team Keyboarder HypnoticPoo NeverLike Louder IlyMissy
Game 1 Team Gozey vs Team Ruken
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Game 1 Team Utahime vs Team Keyboarder
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Game 2 Team Gozey vs Team Utahime
![[image loading]](http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6843/tltourney2game2gozey.jpg)
Game 2 Team Ruken vs Team Keyboarder
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Game 3 Team Gozey vs Team Keyboarder
![[image loading]](http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/9968/tltourney2game3gozey.jpg)
Game 3 Team Utahime vs Team Ruken
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Thanks to everyone who participated! It was a lot of fun and we actually got to finish all the games this time x.x haha.
Highlights: 1. EzPz with Quadra Kill vs Utah's team in Game 2. =D 2. Soner's Nidalee facestomping EzPz's Ezreal from the bush when EzPz was chasing him. 3. Gozey somehow getting first pick again second time in a row (not rigged, I swear =D) Post any more you know =)
A couple of people are suggesting Champion Bans next Tourney... Although I don't see why this is necessary as anyone can pick any Champion and any Champion can be good, I certainly think we can do it if enough people want it for the next Tourney.
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On June 14 2010 07:35 Soloside wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 07:33 Brees wrote:On June 14 2010 07:30 Soloside wrote:On June 14 2010 07:23 radmax86 wrote: GGs all
2 issues I had that I think could be improved:
Team picks were sorta bullshit. Keyboarder picked Desirous as his second pick, yet he ended up on Utahime's team as like a 4th pick. EzPz said he wasn't playing then suddenly becomes available for Gozey to pick. That's bullshit imo.
Games didnt start until like 12:45. We wasted a lot of time trying to pick teams and get things organized. It would be great if we could be more organized ahead of time so it wouldn't take more than 15min before the first game started.
Also, not having any bans and people building tryhard combos is sorta annoying. My gut reaction is to implement some bans, but I might just be on tilt after brees' locket udyr with soraka support so easily outpushed our team. I'll think about this some more. lol. And Brees cries about AD EZ when he picks the hero that made riot nerf an item? Kid needs to stop. EzPz was in channel and nobody picked him during the whole pick phase. Keyboarder wasn't even a designated captain because Louder showed up 30 minutes late thinking he was showing up 30 minutes earlier. already adressed this, but apparently you have to be petty and take it to the forums. listed shaco/sion/udyr as my champs, played them all 1 game. nothing more, nothing less. incoming "u mad l0l" you get your "mad l0l" What are you getting at? Telling me I shouldn't play TF all three games? Is there a rule that we can't play our mains more than once now? Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 07:34 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Well, I mean, AD Ezrael is doing like 3x as much damage as they want him to be doing with Q right now. I think it's an order of operation fail. 1.2*(Mystic Shot Base Damage + Physical damage) when it's suppose to be Mystic Shot Base Damage + 1.2*(Physical damage)
That's only ~30 dmg more...
I personally don't see why your thinking its that broken, I usually do around 500 dmg late game with Q, but then again I have like 200+ dmg.
1.2*200 + 140 + sheen bonus dmg = close to 500
Everything seems alright to me, nothing crazy like 3x dmg its supposed to be doing.
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Just bought Mordekaiser... amazing
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I obviously wasn't there for this, but the draft mechanism was sorta weird the first time, too. I'd say have a schedule:
1) Register for draft by midnight Friday. 2) Captains pick at some time on Saturday. 3) Games are played Sunday.
Edit: Also, I think it's time for bans. Riot's gonna have them for season 1, so we should too. of course, I've been trying to expand my horizons, going from two champs I can play to 4.5 in a couple weeks, so this is personally less scary for me now. Others may feel differently.
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The problem wasn't so much with hero choices so much as one hero that is clearly bugged. I'm not gonna take away from EzPz's play of him but it's annoying when a guy's doing way more damage than he should.
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On June 13 2010 23:50 Liquid`NonY wrote: Anyone have a problem not being able to cast Poppy's ult? I go R target click and nothing happens... This happens to me from time to time, not sure what it is myself :/
On June 13 2010 23:50 Liquid`NonY wrote: Other things confusing me: champions popping out of nowhere or disappearing for a few seconds then reappearing. This could be due to line of sight, such as if you are chasing an enemy champ through the forest, but there have been bugs where a person can go invis for a short time (it's happened to me before).
On June 14 2010 00:25 Liquid`NonY wrote: lol i bought two elixirs of fortitude, used them both, but only got the stats for one...
In response to this, I believe someone said it doubles the duration. It doesn't, it simply resets the duration when you use the second one; this is how it works for health/mana pots, and buffs as well.
On June 14 2010 00:25 Liquid`NonY wrote: i threw a bandage toss at a solid wall of ranged minions who had all bunched up and made a perfect concave... and it went right through them Yeah, not gonna lie, the game is still a bit buggy.
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On June 14 2010 09:23 Epistemic wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2010 23:50 Liquid`NonY wrote: Anyone have a problem not being able to cast Poppy's ult? I go R target click and nothing happens... This happens to me from time to time, not sure what it is myself :/ Show nested quote +On June 13 2010 23:50 Liquid`NonY wrote: Other things confusing me: champions popping out of nowhere or disappearing for a few seconds then reappearing. This could be due to line of sight, such as if you are chasing an enemy champ through the forest, but there have been bugs where a person can go invis for a short time (it's happened to me before). Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 00:25 Liquid`NonY wrote: lol i bought two elixirs of fortitude, used them both, but only got the stats for one...
In response to this, I believe someone said it doubles the duration. It doesn't, it simply resets the duration when you use the second one; this is how it works for health/mana pots, and buffs as well. Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 00:25 Liquid`NonY wrote: i threw a bandage toss at a solid wall of ranged minions who had all bunched up and made a perfect concave... and it went right through them Yeah, not gonna lie, the game is still a bit buggy.
I've played >600 games and I do sometimes experience bugs, such as this range-circle popping up randomly and not dissapearing. But poeple definately don't "suddenly" popping up whatsoever. The bushes Nony was talking about is a game-mechanic, there's no bug with it. As to Amumu's bandage toss, i can't say anything because i haven't played him extensively, but overall all the heroes currently available (we are speaking of about 53 heroes) are almost bug-free with a few well known exception like Ez, Cho etc.
For me the game is beyond beta-status, just don't complain about minor bugs, they will be removed soon. Nony don't tell me BW has fewer bugs than LOL, even though BW is already beyond beta status for almost 15 years.
The only thing what's bad about LOL right now is the missing ladder/ranking system and some balancing (although, there won't ever be a perfect balance for this game, since there are 53 heroes to balance - lol)
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There's an invisibility bug that's yet unchecked, largely because it popped up very recently. I'm not sure if that's what Nony was talking about, though.
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Can someone explain to me how is Ez bugged? I just explained how I see it, and I really don't get it. You're all probably just having trouble adjusting to a pure AD Ez.
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Sheen Ezreal at level 9 would have 76 base damage. With Sheen that means the damage he does on a maxed Mystic Shot would be: 91.2 + 140 + 60.8 = 292. But that Ez would do well over 350.
There's essentially extra damage being added, for some inexplicable reason.
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On June 14 2010 10:07 Onisparda wrote: Can someone explain to me how is Ez bugged? I just explained how I see it, and I really don't get it. You're all probably just having trouble adjusting to a pure AD Ez.
The damage calculation is bugged.
The original formula should be Mystic Shot Base Damage + (1.2*Physical Damage)
Instead, the damage is 1.2*(Mystic Shot Base Damage + Physical Damage)
At the start, you will probably tell yourself it's not that big of a difference, but once you get more and more AD, the bigger the difference between the two formulas will be. Once you add a Shen, the formula gets even more bugged.
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On June 14 2010 10:07 Onisparda wrote: Can someone explain to me how is Ez bugged? I just explained how I see it, and I really don't get it. You're all probably just having trouble adjusting to a pure AD Ez.
[QUOTE=Shurelia;1568744]The mystic shot buff is not working as intended. There is currently a bug that is causing it to deal a lot more damage than it should. We are working on a fix for this.[/QUOTE]
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On June 14 2010 10:16 Southlight wrote: Sheen Ezreal at level 9 would have 76 base damage. With Sheen that means the damage he does on a maxed Mystic Shot would be: 91.2 + 140 + 60.8 = 292. But that Ez would do well over 350.
There's essentially extra damage being added, for some inexplicable reason.
If im not mistaken, Q is supposed to take dmg from items as well, so the bonus dmg might come from there.
On June 14 2010 10:16 Soloside wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 10:07 Onisparda wrote: Can someone explain to me how is Ez bugged? I just explained how I see it, and I really don't get it. You're all probably just having trouble adjusting to a pure AD Ez. The damage calculation is bugged. The original formula should be Mystic Shot Base Damage + (1.2*Physical Damage) Instead, the damage is 1.2*(Mystic Shot Base Damage + Physical Damage) At the start, you will probably tell yourself it's not that big of a difference, but once you get more and more AD, the bigger the difference between the two formulas will be. Once you add a Shen, the formula gets even more bugged.
Thats probably not it because, the only difference the second formula have is a bonus 28 dmg (0.2*140)
On June 14 2010 10:17 Brees wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 10:07 Onisparda wrote: Can someone explain to me how is Ez bugged? I just explained how I see it, and I really don't get it. You're all probably just having trouble adjusting to a pure AD Ez. [QUOTE=Shurelia;1568744]The mystic shot buff is not working as intended. There is currently a bug that is causing it to deal a lot more damage than it should. We are working on a fix for this.
I guess there really is something, but I personally can't find it because the math really does seems to add up...
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are the streams archived anywhere? i.e is there a way to watch them now
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On June 14 2010 08:37 praetor.at wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 08:25 Liquid`NonY wrote: game found --> finish what i was doing --> save rune book --> pick rune page for that game and whatever changes you just made are not there. beta game -_- exactly this happened to me today too. was like wtf?!
Yea rune page is buggy. Had that happen to me.
Now it always says i have available rune slots when both pages are full. I check it everytime to make sure its not wiped.
I started playing nasus who reminds me of a jaffa serpent guard lol. But i nvr really got many kills/wins with him. Went bk to WW and been tearing ppl apart. Suits my playstyle i guess.
Btw, anyone know where I get the grey skin? Cant find it anywhere
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On June 14 2010 10:34 Onisparda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 10:16 Southlight wrote: Sheen Ezreal at level 9 would have 76 base damage. With Sheen that means the damage he does on a maxed Mystic Shot would be: 91.2 + 140 + 60.8 = 292. But that Ez would do well over 350.
There's essentially extra damage being added, for some inexplicable reason. If im not mistaken, Q is supposed to take dmg from items as well, so the bonus dmg might come from there. Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 10:16 Soloside wrote:On June 14 2010 10:07 Onisparda wrote: Can someone explain to me how is Ez bugged? I just explained how I see it, and I really don't get it. You're all probably just having trouble adjusting to a pure AD Ez. The damage calculation is bugged. The original formula should be Mystic Shot Base Damage + (1.2*Physical Damage) Instead, the damage is 1.2*(Mystic Shot Base Damage + Physical Damage) At the start, you will probably tell yourself it's not that big of a difference, but once you get more and more AD, the bigger the difference between the two formulas will be. Once you add a Shen, the formula gets even more bugged. Thats probably not it because, the only difference the second formula have is a bonus 28 dmg (0.2*140) Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 10:17 Brees wrote:On June 14 2010 10:07 Onisparda wrote: Can someone explain to me how is Ez bugged? I just explained how I see it, and I really don't get it. You're all probably just having trouble adjusting to a pure AD Ez. [QUOTE=Shurelia;1568744]The mystic shot buff is not working as intended. There is currently a bug that is causing it to deal a lot more damage than it should. We are working on a fix for this. I guess there really is something, but I personally can't find it because the math really does seems to add up...
The damage adds up, more + bonus damage you have, the bigger the difference, since it's being multiplied by 1.2 factor. Sheen just boosts it even more
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On June 14 2010 08:44 Gokey wrote:
A couple of people are suggesting Champion Bans next Tourney... Although I don't see why this is necessary as anyone can pick any Champion and any Champion can be good, I certainly think we can do it if enough people want it for the next Tourney.
We werent suggesting champion bans based on tryhard comps before the games, just a few of us suggesting banning AD ezreal as he was bugged at the moment. Its like if we knew beforehand that Udyr had a bug that let his phoenix strike do 2x more damage, it'd probably be a good idea to ban him. Again, we raised this issue before the games even started. Probably should have pushed the fact, but the event is supposed to be a friendly one :/ so I didnt think people were gonna take advantage of it.
That bug plus the fact that Ezreal is already a top tier character made some people wonder why he wasn't banned. (Which is Brees point that Pantheon having a bug might make him do a lot better, but Panth isn't Tier 1 like Ezreal is even before the bug)
Anyway whatever, its not too big a deal, but some of you guys need to stop stroking your egos so hard.
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On June 14 2010 10:16 Soloside wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2010 10:07 Onisparda wrote: Can someone explain to me how is Ez bugged? I just explained how I see it, and I really don't get it. You're all probably just having trouble adjusting to a pure AD Ez. The damage calculation is bugged. The original formula should be Mystic Shot Base Damage + (1.2*Physical Damage) Instead, the damage is 1.2*(Mystic Shot Base Damage + Physical Damage) At the start, you will probably tell yourself it's not that big of a difference, but once you get more and more AD, the bigger the difference between the two formulas will be. Once you add a Shen, the formula gets even more bugged.
I actually did some testing... and this is exactly it.
Sheen's dmg actually also go under the factor of 1.2
so damage is 1.2*(Mystic Shot Base Damage + Physical Damage + Sheen's bonus dmg)
And so this means... sheen will give 96% bonus of base dmg instead of 80% (which is 16 dmg at max lvl) and a bonus of 28 dmg, caused by mystic shot's dmg being in the parenthesis.
SO in total, Ez's bug is doing 44 dmg more than its supposed to at lvl18 + sheen...
I can only go back to the conclusion I made earlier... your just not used to seeing AD Ez because 44 dmg is nothing.
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