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Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 04:33:09
July 08 2010 04:19 GMT
#4561
Jungler relies on ganks for gold in my exp. Then again I always seem to have money issues lol.

I find trying to make money from jungle after lvl 6 difficult and slow. I feel I should be getting kills or pushing with team otherwise im left out of position. Whenever i try to grab buffs before a team fight they always seem to engage before i get there. Dunno if its just me playing bad or the team not patient waiting for us to all be gathered. (and by that stage it only takes 10-20s to get 1 buff)
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 08 2010 04:23 GMT
#4562
On July 08 2010 13:04 BraveGhost wrote:
how do you have 2 junglers?... that's not gonna work very well.. someones gonna be under leveled, or jungle on their side.. and that's just asking to be ganked.

you can have a jungler and a "roaming ganker"

yea, that's sorta how it plays out... Turkey, Southlight and I queued once and ran into 2 solo queuers who refused to budge on character choices, so we had double jungle, pantheon mid, and Kass and nasus solo on our side lanes. The result was pretty epic:
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/US28007195
note that neither of the junglers had a particularly good game, but the triple solo level advantage on 3 very strong early-mid game heroes made things pretty brutal for them. It was especially nice because one of the things that typically forces my foot off of my opponent's throat mid is the threat of their jungler popping and ganking, but the level of confidence I could have from 2 junglers threatening ganks and providing map control turned out to make it a slam dunk.


In other news, my early game has been looking like garbage tonight, but my end games have been pulling together nicely. WTF is wrong with me!??
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
July 08 2010 04:30 GMT
#4563
On July 08 2010 13:23 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 13:04 BraveGhost wrote:
how do you have 2 junglers?... that's not gonna work very well.. someones gonna be under leveled, or jungle on their side.. and that's just asking to be ganked.

you can have a jungler and a "roaming ganker"

yea, that's sorta how it plays out... Turkey, Southlight and I queued once and ran into 2 solo queuers who refused to budge on character choices, so we had double jungle, pantheon mid, and Kass and nasus solo on our side lanes. The result was pretty epic:
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/US28007195
note that neither of the junglers had a particularly good game, but the triple solo level advantage on 3 very strong early-mid game heroes made things pretty brutal for them. It was especially nice because one of the things that typically forces my foot off of my opponent's throat mid is the threat of their jungler popping and ganking, but the level of confidence I could have from 2 junglers threatening ganks and providing map control turned out to make it a slam dunk.


In other news, my early game has been looking like garbage tonight, but my end games have been pulling together nicely. WTF is wrong with me!??



lol you beat utah to the punch, and yea those games were weird early but then we turned them around nicely..fun times
You can't milk those!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 08 2010 04:30 GMT
#4564
On June 29 2010 03:11 Mogwai wrote:
5 rallies and 5 teleports on WW, Ezreal, Nidalee, Nunu and Janna can take first tower in about 45 seconds iirc.

tested it with friends and you do all the buffs on WW, tank tower shots with rallies and kill it before anyone even gets there unless they have a teleport or fortify (lol).


just did this in a practice game... ryze bot got demolished, fucking nob
anyways i want to try this in a smurf game, but smurfs don't have the right champs fuuu
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 08 2010 04:42 GMT
#4565
lol, yea, it's such a kick in the balls, my real account doesn't play against the sort of competetion that would allow such sillyness, but I still fucking wanna do it! maybe just practice gaming it is the answer, but I feel like that takes away from some of the epicness.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
July 08 2010 04:45 GMT
#4566
On July 08 2010 13:30 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 13:23 Mogwai wrote:
On July 08 2010 13:04 BraveGhost wrote:
how do you have 2 junglers?... that's not gonna work very well.. someones gonna be under leveled, or jungle on their side.. and that's just asking to be ganked.

you can have a jungler and a "roaming ganker"

yea, that's sorta how it plays out... Turkey, Southlight and I queued once and ran into 2 solo queuers who refused to budge on character choices, so we had double jungle, pantheon mid, and Kass and nasus solo on our side lanes. The result was pretty epic:
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/US28007195
note that neither of the junglers had a particularly good game, but the triple solo level advantage on 3 very strong early-mid game heroes made things pretty brutal for them. It was especially nice because one of the things that typically forces my foot off of my opponent's throat mid is the threat of their jungler popping and ganking, but the level of confidence I could have from 2 junglers threatening ganks and providing map control turned out to make it a slam dunk.


In other news, my early game has been looking like garbage tonight, but my end games have been pulling together nicely. WTF is wrong with me!??



lol you beat utah to the punch, and yea those games were weird early but then we turned them around nicely..fun times

yea.... seriously, no idea wtf was wrong with my early game... thank god xpecial is better than Swooze and carried the fuck out of us in that 2nd Inept game :p. That fight up top was so weird cuz I was abou to start raging into the mic when I pursued Janna and Warwick south and noone followed, but then I scroll up and xpecial's just finishing everyone off 1 by 1... and I'm like, "huh... ok, guess I was a good diversion or something... man being a support hero sucks :p"
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
July 08 2010 04:45 GMT
#4567
On July 08 2010 13:23 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 13:04 BraveGhost wrote:
how do you have 2 junglers?... that's not gonna work very well.. someones gonna be under leveled, or jungle on their side.. and that's just asking to be ganked.

you can have a jungler and a "roaming ganker"

yea, that's sorta how it plays out... Turkey, Southlight and I queued once and ran into 2 solo queuers who refused to budge on character choices, so we had double jungle, pantheon mid, and Kass and nasus solo on our side lanes. The result was pretty epic:
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/US28007195
note that neither of the junglers had a particularly good game, but the triple solo level advantage on 3 very strong early-mid game heroes made things pretty brutal for them. It was especially nice because one of the things that typically forces my foot off of my opponent's throat mid is the threat of their jungler popping and ganking, but the level of confidence I could have from 2 junglers threatening ganks and providing map control turned out to make it a slam dunk.


In other news, my early game has been looking like garbage tonight, but my end games have been pulling together nicely. WTF is wrong with me!??

rofl 17 assist on utahime
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 08 2010 05:03 GMT
#4568
omg, wards play are sooooooooo usefull in this game. after you lose 6 towers to the enemy, the only thing that can save your team is using wards. Really, Try it and feel the different!
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
July 08 2010 05:04 GMT
#4569
Can anyone give me tips for laning against a heavy burst char as TF? (IE: Ryze, Annie) in mid, specifically. I'm having a lot of trouble keeping up with their DPS, and they can just run in and wreck me to 20% hp since I'm so squishy.

I use Flash/ignite, btw
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
July 08 2010 05:05 GMT
#4570
I've passed the 100 game mark on my account, and I have yet to see a Nidalee played.
it's my first day
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 05:09:09
July 08 2010 05:08 GMT
#4571
On July 08 2010 14:05 myopia wrote:
I've passed the 100 game mark on my account, and I have yet to see a Nidalee played.

100 games means your level can maximum be 20... its rare to see a nidalee bc it is hard to play her as full potential while as the same price, you can get lots of other awesome easy champs

edit: ask for people on liquid party for a premade and 3/5 people will own nidalee
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
July 08 2010 05:10 GMT
#4572
shaco can kill the dragon at level 1
video proof:

whether or not its worth it you decide
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
July 08 2010 05:11 GMT
#4573
On July 08 2010 13:45 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 13:30 StuffedTurkey wrote:
On July 08 2010 13:23 Mogwai wrote:
On July 08 2010 13:04 BraveGhost wrote:
how do you have 2 junglers?... that's not gonna work very well.. someones gonna be under leveled, or jungle on their side.. and that's just asking to be ganked.

you can have a jungler and a "roaming ganker"

yea, that's sorta how it plays out... Turkey, Southlight and I queued once and ran into 2 solo queuers who refused to budge on character choices, so we had double jungle, pantheon mid, and Kass and nasus solo on our side lanes. The result was pretty epic:
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/US28007195
note that neither of the junglers had a particularly good game, but the triple solo level advantage on 3 very strong early-mid game heroes made things pretty brutal for them. It was especially nice because one of the things that typically forces my foot off of my opponent's throat mid is the threat of their jungler popping and ganking, but the level of confidence I could have from 2 junglers threatening ganks and providing map control turned out to make it a slam dunk.


In other news, my early game has been looking like garbage tonight, but my end games have been pulling together nicely. WTF is wrong with me!??



lol you beat utah to the punch, and yea those games were weird early but then we turned them around nicely..fun times

yea.... seriously, no idea wtf was wrong with my early game... thank god xpecial is better than Swooze and carried the fuck out of us in that 2nd Inept game :p. That fight up top was so weird cuz I was abou to start raging into the mic when I pursued Janna and Warwick south and noone followed, but then I scroll up and xpecial's just finishing everyone off 1 by 1... and I'm like, "huh... ok, guess I was a good diversion or something... man being a support hero sucks :p"

lol yea i was soooo wanting to chase janna but then i started getting CC'd and was like..dammit ill just beat on them
You can't milk those!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 05:16:12
July 08 2010 05:16 GMT
#4574
On July 08 2010 14:05 myopia wrote:
I've passed the 100 game mark on my account, and I have yet to see a Nidalee played.

I've been playing Nidalee after Suffeli carried me with her (I was lvl 14 or something).
She's my best and most fun champ now (lvl 30)
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 05:20:55
July 08 2010 05:18 GMT
#4575
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 05:32:40
July 08 2010 05:26 GMT
#4576
*rant time*

Jesus fucking christ, what's with this games freaking MM? I win ONE game, and I get put with the fuckiing Jerry's kids who are going 0/4, 0/3, 2/5, and 2/7 within the first 8 minutes. I'm the only one DOING SOMETHING and they keep just dying repeatedly. I mean seriously. Does winning one game make me suddenly MLG and they need to compensate with putting me with shit players? How about a good MM system where if I do good, I get put with other good players, and good players fight good players, great players fight great players instead of this derp shit where it's like "YOU WIN? WELL WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL, HERE'S A LEVEL 1 TEAM FOR YOU SO YOU LOSE."

I mean, ELO seems to be the only system that PUNISHES me for winning.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 08 2010 05:29 GMT
#4577
What's with all the crying about shit players on your solo que team? Every hour there's a rant about something that's been answered so many times.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-08 05:33:54
July 08 2010 05:32 GMT
#4578
Nidalee is my go-to champ whom I play when I want the best chances at winning a match : > At my level most people can't deal with her, early on or later on.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 08 2010 05:35 GMT
#4579
On July 08 2010 14:04 Fruscainte wrote:
Can anyone give me tips for laning against a heavy burst char as TF? (IE: Ryze, Annie) in mid, specifically. I'm having a lot of trouble keeping up with their DPS, and they can just run in and wreck me to 20% hp since I'm so squishy.

I use Flash/ignite, btw


I play Ryze and Zilean, who are both burst chars. The way these guy take you down is by harassing you until you are at low hp, and then they try to kill you in one combo. Burst characters are effective vs melee characters, but not so much against ranged. With TF, just last hit creeps from a distance and always stay out of their range. Be especially careful if you are low HP, I would even recommend basing to reduce the risks. If they run straight in and start bursting you while you are at high health, just attack back. Ryze and Annie are even squishier than TF. After they lay their combo on you, they have no other option but to run since their normal attack sucks. At this time, yellow card and BAM!

One tip against Ryze, at least my style of Ryze, stay back before minions spawn. I love to get prespawn kills with Ryze since flux hits you 3 times. He can take out 500- HP characters if he catches them in the bushes at melee range.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 08 2010 05:36 GMT
#4580
On July 08 2010 13:23 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2010 13:04 BraveGhost wrote:
how do you have 2 junglers?... that's not gonna work very well.. someones gonna be under leveled, or jungle on their side.. and that's just asking to be ganked.

you can have a jungler and a "roaming ganker"

yea, that's sorta how it plays out... Turkey, Southlight and I queued once and ran into 2 solo queuers who refused to budge on character choices, so we had double jungle, pantheon mid, and Kass and nasus solo on our side lanes. The result was pretty epic:
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/US28007195
note that neither of the junglers had a particularly good game, but the triple solo level advantage on 3 very strong early-mid game heroes made things pretty brutal for them. It was especially nice because one of the things that typically forces my foot off of my opponent's throat mid is the threat of their jungler popping and ganking, but the level of confidence I could have from 2 junglers threatening ganks and providing map control turned out to make it a slam dunk.


In other news, my early game has been looking like garbage tonight, but my end games have been pulling together nicely. WTF is wrong with me!??



i can top this, just had a game with 3 junglers. our heal/smite tryndamere counter jungled, our warwick normal jungled, and i was stuck soloing bot as smite gragas.

we won though lol
Brees on in
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