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On July 07 2010 03:45 Chairman Ray wrote:
In higher level competitive play, are low tier champions viable? I want to know whether I have a future with Ryze or not.
glass canon is good with a good walls of heavy tankers in front of him.
some how i have lots success with ryze (ignite-ghost) more than (heal-ghost) in surviving combat though  . ryze + twitch will sure disappear in draft games... trynd is no need to be mentioned
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On July 07 2010 03:54 redtooth wrote:
edit: on that note, i stopped playing kat for a while and i'm under +100... zzzzzzzz
What you're probably seeing is that aggressive heroes that can get rolling from early on are more likely to affect the game toward yourself, as opposed to passive heroes (like GP) which make you much more reliant on your teammates until you hit a certain point. It's why when I switched to Kassadin I've started winning considerably more, and I've found less games have been swung by ineffective teammates (if you look at the two games I posted to utube lately you can tell my lanemates are PUTRID yet it doesn't matter in the least).
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On July 07 2010 03:54 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:36 Mogwai wrote:
my lolbase Pantheon stat line is better than Maknoon's in pretty much every way, *flexes*. :/ maknoon's been playing vs the best of the best for quite a while now. he still dominates even vs the top players.... though recently i saw his red pot panth get raped by HS's nidalee. edit: on that note, i stopped playing kat for a while and i'm under +100... zzzzzzzz
*shrugs*, I'm not trying to say I'm necessarily better than he, but I don't think it's a stretch to say I play Pantheon on the same level as he. most of my lolbase games are from utah's recent uploading spree anyway, so it's not like my stats are getting padded by huge amounts of games roflstomping n00bs with Panth.
EDIT: besides, Musicc's statline puts both ours to shame anyway. fewer games, but his numbers are really really impressive.
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On July 07 2010 04:11 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 03:54 redtooth wrote:On July 07 2010 03:36 Mogwai wrote:
my lolbase Pantheon stat line is better than Maknoon's in pretty much every way, *flexes*. :/ maknoon's been playing vs the best of the best for quite a while now. he still dominates even vs the top players.... though recently i saw his red pot panth get raped by HS's nidalee. edit: on that note, i stopped playing kat for a while and i'm under +100... zzzzzzzz *shrugs*, I'm not trying to say I'm necessarily better than he, but I don't think it's a stretch to say I play Pantheon on the same level as he. most of my lolbase games are from utah's recent uploading spree anyway, so it's not like my stats are getting padded by huge amounts of games roflstomping n00bs with Panth. EDIT: besides, Musicc's statline puts both ours to shame anyway. fewer games, but his numbers are really really impressive. musicc's not as good as maknoon. maknoon is imba. and i'm not saying that to belittle your panth skills in any way. just like i wouldn't say i'm better than kobe (yet  ), maknoon is consensus #1 pantheon in the server.
and i gotta start playing kat again. this is ridiculous. and burbs is bad.
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So much for ZOMG GP SO IMBA IMA MAIN HIM hey? :p
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LOL Maknoon lost that game all by himself. He failed so hard it's hilarious. He had a 1v2 sidelane against me (GP) and Janna and got completely owned - Zoned, denied and finally gave up first blood. Then he switched and went mid and fed again and throughout the rest of the game he just got so owned repeatedly I was giggling inside. Just did so bad. He ended up 6/13/9.
It's too bad too because they had an amazing Shaco (late game at least, he failed at all ganks early). Thankfully our ez was raping because I couldn't touch shaco.
Oh and I'm almost +100 now, +95 atm, thanks Gangplank good sir. Was at +75 a while ago. Guess it isn't that great considering the amount of games I've played but oh well <_<. I've been playing tankplank only when they've got a shit load of physical dps, other than that I'm still raping with my trust ol' infinity edge.
Edit 2: Damn I'm a hydralisk now, wut wut!
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I wonder if anybody else have had similar experience to something strange.
Currently when I soloqueue I get much better games than queueing with people that play well ON THEMSELVES, meaning they own their lane but as soon as it turns into mapcontrol they are completely lost (besides from an amumu and a zivir where we always seems to win).
In mixed soloqueue and premade I'm up to +70 wins but many of my wins comes from soloqueue where I seem to now constantly getting players who know how to play as a team, never (like in the last 20 soloq) do I get morons anymore, they all know how to play, especially as a team and I win most of them. It's pretty cool.
Edit: Thinking more about it, it might just be me that adds the wrong people. Lol.. Maybe I'm just adding the ones that own their lane because this is easy to see that they "do well".
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On July 06 2010 23:33 Mogwai wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2010 23:20 Juicyfruit wrote:
strength of spirit actually does something :S?
this might be why I'm kinda failing. hahaha, yea, Utah and I figured out just a couple days ago that that % is applied per second, not per 5, so it turns out it's a pretty helpful mastery early (especially on guys who open sapphire).
you coulda just asked:p ive been using it for a while specifically because it was per second not per 5:p
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Just wondering anyone good with Corki?
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On July 07 2010 04:27 redtooth wrote:Show nested quote +On July 07 2010 04:11 Mogwai wrote:On July 07 2010 03:54 redtooth wrote:On July 07 2010 03:36 Mogwai wrote:
my lolbase Pantheon stat line is better than Maknoon's in pretty much every way, *flexes*. :/ maknoon's been playing vs the best of the best for quite a while now. he still dominates even vs the top players.... though recently i saw his red pot panth get raped by HS's nidalee. edit: on that note, i stopped playing kat for a while and i'm under +100... zzzzzzzz *shrugs*, I'm not trying to say I'm necessarily better than he, but I don't think it's a stretch to say I play Pantheon on the same level as he. most of my lolbase games are from utah's recent uploading spree anyway, so it's not like my stats are getting padded by huge amounts of games roflstomping n00bs with Panth. EDIT: besides, Musicc's statline puts both ours to shame anyway. fewer games, but his numbers are really really impressive. musicc's not as good as maknoon. maknoon is imba. and i'm not saying that to belittle your panth skills in any way. just like i wouldn't say i'm better than kobe (yet ), maknoon is consensus #1 pantheon in the server. and i gotta start playing kat again. this is ridiculous. and burbs is bad.
again, not saying I'm better than he, was just pointing out that my stats on lolbase are imba and musicc's are even more imba than both Maknoon's and mine (seriously, wtf, dude has over 2:1 KD, and 3.75:1 w/l with Panth on there, that shit is bananas, b-a-n-a-n-a-s). Seeing Maknoon play was impressive for me, but the only thing I learned from that game was that GA is insane on Pantheon. Other than adding that to my game, I didn't see anything else I needed to do besides stop playing TF, LOL.
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On July 07 2010 04:35 Ota Solgryn wrote:
I wonder if anybody else have had similar experience to something strange.
Currently when I soloqueue I get much better games than queueing with people that play well ON THEMSELVES, meaning they own their lane but as soon as it turns into mapcontrol they are completely lost (besides from an amumu and a zivir where we always seems to win).
In mixed soloqueue and premade I'm up to +70 wins but many of my wins comes from soloqueue where I seem to now constantly getting players who know how to play as a team, never (like in the last 20 soloq) do I get morons anymore, they all know how to play, especially as a team and I win most of them. It's pretty cool.
Edit: Thinking more about it, it might just be me that adds the wrong people. Lol.. Maybe I'm just adding the ones that own their lane because this is easy to see that they "do well".
Haven't many of us (redtooth, Neo, me, Mogwai, etc.) been saying the same thing ~_~ Up to a certain level you should premade because the elo hit from premades isn't going to hurt you, but then after a while you'll start to get punished for "weak links" and then it's better to soloqueue.
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Holy crap, I love Master Yi. I thought he sucked (never seen anyone do him good) but Jesus, if you're half as competent as anyone average, you can wreck with him.
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...and if they have any disables, you're already dead.
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On July 07 2010 05:10 Mogwai wrote:
...and if they have any disables, you're already dead.
its why you get cleanse, and if things get really bad, bashee's/quicksilver
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can anybody up-me-to-date on what elo stands for? i know its smkind of high ranking but still 
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On July 07 2010 05:10 Mogwai wrote:
...and if they have any disables, you're already dead.
Sure is Cleanse.
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let me clarify...
if AP Yi does his thing, he alphas for a ton, gets hit a bit, meditates and gets disabled out of meditate, cleanses, meditate is still of CD and he just gets rocked or has to run away with highlander while his team dies.
AD Yi contributes nothing to teamfights short of playing cleanup exceptionally well. Typically, he has to hope his team can more or less break even in a 4v5, then prance in there with highlander and clean up the scraps. I find this role really useless and would rather have an Eve who can at least stun their carry for a couple seconds when push comes to shove.
I dunno, people seem to be all over Yi's nuts since he got buffed, but even in fed form, I find him really forgettable in teamfights.
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