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StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
July 05 2010 03:02 GMT
#3881
On July 05 2010 11:57 Shikyo wrote:
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/EU18620747
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/EU18627908 So tryhard

which team...im confused i dont see a tryhard team...wrong links?
You can't milk those!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 03:05:55
July 05 2010 03:05 GMT
#3882
On July 05 2010 12 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              05 2010 12      end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              05 2010 12      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:02 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 11:57 Shikyo wrote:
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/EU18620747
http://www.lolbase.net/matches/view/EU18627908 So tryhard

which team...im confused i dont see a tryhard team...wrong links?

Sigh~

On July 05 2010 12 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 05 2010 12 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:02 mikku wrote:
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On July 05 2010 11:57 Shikyo wrote: So tryhard


This has to be one of the dumbest terms to ever come out of the internet.

Love it so much <3
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
July 05 2010 03:29 GMT
#3883
On July 05 2010 11:18 HazMat wrote:
Redtooth playing gankplank on Clgaming.net with hotshotgg.
edit: funny game.
our next game was so rape.
maknoon's panth is imba.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 05 2010 03:34 GMT
#3884
On July 05 2010 12:29 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 11:18 HazMat wrote:
Redtooth playing gankplank on Clgaming.net with hotshotgg.
edit: funny game.
our next game was so rape.
maknoon's panth is imba.

Yeah i saw that one too, pretty funny seeing Shen try to gank panth and he just kills both.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
July 05 2010 03:36 GMT
#3885
On July 05 2010 12:34 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 12:29 redtooth wrote:
On July 05 2010 11:18 HazMat wrote:
Redtooth playing gankplank on Clgaming.net with hotshotgg.
edit: funny game.
our next game was so rape.
maknoon's panth is imba.

Yeah i saw that one too, pretty funny seeing Shen try to gank panth and he just kills both.
maknoon is by far the best panth in the game. that comp was just a roaming gank squad. towers didn't protect you at all.
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 03:47:24
July 05 2010 03:45 GMT
#3886
i don't get it
why is it that literally 100% of the time i play pub my team is just filled with the most massive retards
every single time at least 3 of the 5 are INCREDIBLY bad
it's just not fun at all, i literally always lose when i pub and always win when i premade

i mean, how am i supposed to get a high elo anyways when my team is soooo bad we have no chance every single time. and i know it's not me lol i do awesome in premades its just impossible to do anything when the other team sticks together and my team runs away with full life, doesnt help with anything, goes off alone to die, etc etc

in my last game 2 of our players literally chased a low hp champion past 3 of their turrets and into their base, they had the same speed.. they couldn't catch him.. they died in the opponents base
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 03:51:22
July 05 2010 03:47 GMT
#3887
On July 05 2010 12 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              05 2010 12      end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              05 2010 12      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:45 travis wrote:
i don't get it
why is it that literally 100% of the time i play pub my team is just filled with the most massive retards
every single time at least 3 of the 5 are INCREDIBLY bad
it's just not fun at all, i literally always lose when i pub and always win when i premade

Playing with people better than you and winning with them skews your elo so that when you solo queue your elo is actually higher than what your skill is.

Or your teams are just like most of mine are and you have to imbacarry with Tryndamere to win. Nowadays I only get awful teams about half the time and decent ones about half the time though, so if you carry some of the awful teams your W/L should be positive.

EDIT: Rofl hotshotgg getting owned by a panth who has a 21min max occult
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Onisparda
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada516 Posts
July 05 2010 03:51 GMT
#3888
On July 05 2010 12:45 travis wrote:
i don't get it
why is it that literally 100% of the time i play pub my team is just filled with the most massive retards
every single time at least 3 of the 5 are INCREDIBLY bad
it's just not fun at all, i literally always lose when i pub and always win when i premade

i mean, how am i supposed to get a high elo anyways when my team is soooo bad we have no chance every single time. and i know it's not me lol i do awesome in premades its just impossible to do anything when the other team sticks together and my team runs away with full life, doesnt help with anything, goes off alone to die, etc etc

in my last game 2 of our players literally chased a low hp champion past 3 of their turrets and into their base, they had the same speed.. they couldn't catch him.. they died in the opponents base


I totally get what you mean, Im on a ~7 game losing streak because i always get paired up with retards... I really don't feel like playing in fear I might smash my keyboard in frustration lol.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 04:10:09
July 05 2010 04:05 GMT
#3889
So, Kog'maw.

My first 6300 IP champion. I decided to try out AP Kog'maw and Hybrid- practice games only so far, just to get a feel for him- and I'm utterly unimpressed with the hybrid build.

The benefits of an AP build, compared to a hybrid build:

+ Show Spoiler +
- Survivability: RoA gives you HP, Rylai's gives you HP and a snare, Zhonya's gives you a great clicky; you won't have all of those, but even one of them will give you a significant survivability boost compared to Hybrid which has basically nothing.

- AP: This is pretty obvious. Expect your Caustic Spittle, Void Ooze and Living Artillery to deal more damage than they would with a Hybrid build.

- More mana: Expect to have more max mana and possibly mana regen (Archangel's) than a Hybrid build.


This is all pretty standard and expected. Now, what do you usually expect from focusing more on your autoattack:
+ Show Spoiler +
- Better efficacy vs. Minions: Whether you're going for AD, AS and crit or Mandred's + AS, you'll be able to deal easily with the Golem and Lizard buff minions, Dragon, and help out with Baron. AD will also deal very effectively with minion waves.

- Lower mana expenditure: If you rely more on your autoattack, you shouldn't need to rely on your spells as much.

- Better sustained DPS: Since your autoattack never runs out, you're not as hindered by ability cooldown restrictions.


So far, so good. Except you don't really get the expected benefits. Bio-arcane barrage doesn't help out all that much when you're soloing the golem buff or killing Dragon, because the 6% of max HP damage bonus is capped at a disappointingly low number (100) vs. minions. Not only that, but you can at most keep the buff up half the time- and most of your hybrid items will be completely useless when dealing with large minion waves.

But hey, you're hybrid, right? You still have your caster half, and it's not like hybrid Kog'maw will have trouble dealing with minion waves, right? While this is true, your diminished mana pool and mana regen and lower AP score mean you're not too hot as a caster- you run out of steam quickly. Not against minions certainly, but you can't afford to go back to your spawning pool every two minutes and having low mana means you won't be very effective at harassing enemy champions at standoffs- something AP Kog'maw excels at.

In team fights, your spells will be weaker, but your autoattack will be more relevant for 6 seconds. Even here, it seems pretty underwhelming, though. It's best against High HP, low MRes targets, and you're comparably really ineffective when targetting squishies- other ranged DPS champions like Ashe, Tristana or Corki will hit a lot harder against most targets, AND they have battlefield control abilities- a stun and amazing snare in one case, free blinks in the other two. You'll still rely heavily on your spells for damage, but you'll run oom that much quicker; your sustained DPS will actually be worse than that of AP Kog'maw because after your first 6 seconds of glory, Bio-Arcane Barrage is on cooldown and all you have is the rest of your spell repertoire, but with less AP and a tiny mana pool you're not going to make a very good use of it. Kog'maw's spells are so good that you'll want to use them very often even if you're Hybrid, so your mana expenditure won't be that much lower.

So, yeah. A lot of disadvantages, in exchange for being more effective against high HP, low MRes champions for 6 seconds sounds like a really shitty deal to me. Am I right in thinking that AP Kog'maw >> Hybrid Kog'maw, or am I missing something?
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Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 04:20:16
July 05 2010 04:18 GMT
#3890
Im gonna start premading with u guys. Was waiting till i got better but feel comfortable now on Panth/WW.

Solo queue has made me expect to lose, ive forgotten what its like to win. (except last night when a mord/karthus duo carried us to victory lol) Those games are quite rare.

No idea how the opponents team always seems to be more competent. One would assume they would be in the same boat.
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 05 2010 04:18 GMT
#3891
Most of the good Kogs I've seen have gone AP, but they are few and far between, because most people cannot land that ult well.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 04:23:30
July 05 2010 04:22 GMT
#3892
ahhahahaha I just finished the coolest game.

Open up with me (Shen) taking the top lane, Heim mid, Ali and Morgana bot, and Udyr jungling. Our Udyr is killed twice - TWICE - by jungle creeps before he hits lvl 3. I'm having a rough time against Kayle and Akali so I drop a second point into feint to hold on. The game is looking pretty bad up until bot lane gets a few kills and pushes their tower down. We then snowball out of control. Ali does an AP build and starts to roam - goes 10-0-5. Thanks to our extra tanking power and a few sweet ults on my part, we never concede a kill (besides the few neutral deaths from Udyr) until like 30 minutes in when we're all 4-5 levels above their team and start screwing around.

Get to the match results - they're all in the mid 20's and my team's all teens except for me at 20.
it's my first day
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 05 2010 04:24 GMT
#3893
After level 12-ish level doesn't matter.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
July 05 2010 04:27 GMT
#3894
So I dont get why I'm being matched with level 3's when I'm level 18 almost 19.
FraCuS
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1072 Posts
July 05 2010 04:33 GMT
#3895
On July 05 2010 12:51 Onisparda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2010 12:45 travis wrote:
i don't get it
why is it that literally 100% of the time i play pub my team is just filled with the most massive retards
every single time at least 3 of the 5 are INCREDIBLY bad
it's just not fun at all, i literally always lose when i pub and always win when i premade

i mean, how am i supposed to get a high elo anyways when my team is soooo bad we have no chance every single time. and i know it's not me lol i do awesome in premades its just impossible to do anything when the other team sticks together and my team runs away with full life, doesnt help with anything, goes off alone to die, etc etc

in my last game 2 of our players literally chased a low hp champion past 3 of their turrets and into their base, they had the same speed.. they couldn't catch him.. they died in the opponents base


I totally get what you mean, Im on a ~7 game losing streak because i always get paired up with retards... I really don't feel like playing in fear I might smash my keyboard in frustration lol.


Alot of us feel your pain
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-05 04:47:56
July 05 2010 04:47 GMT
#3896
I bought Kog'Maw when he first came out but haven't played him once yet. o________O
Retvrn to Forvms
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
July 05 2010 05:01 GMT
#3897
Venting is an important psychological element of every competitive teamgame. So I thought I'd get in on the action:

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I know my walls are kinda plain, but I plan on painting them skyblue next thursday.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 05 2010 05:03 GMT
#3898
you might want to try putting your keyboard where your left hand can reach it
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
July 05 2010 05:05 GMT
#3899
I'm certain that it's my teammate's job to put my keyboard within reach of my left hand. Certain!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
July 05 2010 05:06 GMT
#3900
Anyone know how to fix the bug where you cant click on your minimap to move your screen?
I get it a lot.
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