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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On July 05 2010 13:47 Chrispy wrote: I bought Kog'Maw when he first came out but haven't played him once yet. o________O Ditto, I bought him 'cause I just have 4 more heroes to go anyways, and I'm not gonna play crappy heroes like Pantheon anyways, but he's way beyond my skill-level to play :x | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On July 05 2010 14:14 Southlight wrote: Ditto, I bought him 'cause I just have 4 more heroes to go anyways, and I'm not gonna play crappy heroes like Pantheon anyways, but he's way beyond my skill-level to play :x Are you guys just steamrolling or something? I see 9/10 wins on your profile page. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Cirn9
1117 Posts
On July 05 2010 14:06 HazMat wrote: Anyone know how to fix the bug where you cant click on your minimap to move your screen? I get it a lot. Are you opening it through steam? | ||
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FlameSworD
United States414 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 05 2010 14:14 Southlight wrote: Ditto, I bought him 'cause I just have 4 more heroes to go anyways, and I'm not gonna play crappy heroes like Pantheon anyways, but he's way beyond my skill-level to play :x ryzer begs to differ about Pantheon's crappiness :p. pushed their shit in and he started raging at the end about the metagame: ![[image loading]](http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6291/ryzerrage.jpg) remainder of the chat log: Ghetto Fabulous: you had heimer shille: you have a heimer on your team too Ghetto Fabulous: as well Ryzer: our heimer Ryzer: was garbage Ryzer: he put turrets in the worst spots Ryzer: keep runnign imba shit Ryzer: baddies Ghetto Fabulous: ty ty ty gotta agree with him about heimer though, shit's so stupid and boring. pure siege game that time and they had a bad kog vs. our OK Ez. easy win, constantly pushing 3 lanes and maintaining golem control, they never really had a chance when we warded their gol and I ulted and killed their heimer trying to take golem at level 7 or something. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/07/02/dev-diary-xin-zhao-league-of-legends-newest-champion/ | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On July 05 2010 15:19 Chairman Ray wrote: So, they're coming out with a new champion - Xin Zhao. Looks promising tbh. http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/07/02/dev-diary-xin-zhao-league-of-legends-newest-champion/ bit late lawl. And no, I don't run this game trough steam O.o | ||
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Ota Solgryn
Denmark2011 Posts
On July 05 2010 12:02 mikku wrote: This has to be one of the dumbest terms to ever come out of the internet. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On July 05 2010 13:18 Southlight wrote: Most of the good Kogs I've seen have gone AP, but they are few and far between, because most people cannot land that ult well. Needs moar alt+r Smartcast is amazing for skillshots | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
pantheon is such crazy lane presence atm and heimer is stupid unless you have a way to counter him. the funnything is both of these heroes have HUGE weaknesses, squishy panth/heimer w/o turrets is death. i'd buff panth squishy and remove some early dmg, then i'd remove those stupid grenades doing damage and find something else. tryhard isn't a dumb term, it's the first word that pops out of your head when you see allistar/soraka/janna on the other team | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
If I were Riot I'd be looking at nerfing Soraka, Janna, Heimer, and Taric. Those four still have crazy high winrates, and that usually means they're too strong. Edit: Also, Ryzer sure didn't complain when he was with us, did he! :p | ||
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Ota Solgryn
Denmark2011 Posts
On July 05 2010 17:00 shawster wrote: i agree with ryzer pantheon is such crazy lane presence atm and heimer is stupid unless you have a way to counter him. the funnything is both of these heroes have HUGE weaknesses, squishy panth/heimer w/o turrets is death. i'd buff panth squishy and remove some early dmg, then i'd remove those stupid grenades doing damage and find something else. tryhard isn't a dumb term, it's the first word that pops out of your head when you see allistar/soraka/janna on the other team Yes, tryhard is an extremely dumb word, because of what it implies. I agree that those teams can be annoying, but it is really part of the game and can easily be defeated, it is just hard to punish and a small mistake on your team means you have lost. Should tryhard also be used by zerg players who looses to mech terran. Because mech terran is "easier" to do and harder to beat? Or 2base carrier for protoss? | ||
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Redlol
United States181 Posts
On July 05 2010 17:04 Southlight wrote: Pantheon crumbles in relatively coordinated teamfights/mid-late game, and Heimer definitely needs a nerf. I think Pantheon's gonna get nerfed just because people bitch about him so much but his win rate is really not that good for most Pantheon players. He is overpowered in the early game though, and he definitely could use some love in the late game. He has an incredible zone when laning though, he doesn't really need to do anything but stand there and he can easily deny your ability to last hit. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
I mean by that notion Sion needs a nerf because his 2 second stun in conjunction with another stun/damage hero means insta-death. Same goes for Alistar, because in conjunction with burst hero he'll invariably lead to someone's death if they misplay. Edit: There was a game, for instance, where I was jungling Rammus and I came in and ganked Pantheon twice. Xpecial and I only got him once, but he was set behind so much that he was useless for the rest of the game. Sure, if you leave Pantheon alone there, he'll probably chew up your solo mid (although he, too, has bad matchups, like Kassadin, Kennen and Heimerdinger), but that's like saying leaving a Master Yi or Tryndamere free farming will lead to crazy carry deaths, zomg nerf. | ||
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Redlol
United States181 Posts
Edit: How's your jungle Rammus build go? I really enjoy playing Rammus, but I've only really ever done it once. I've jungled as Amumu a couple of times though and assume it's probably pretty similar? | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On July 05 2010 17:35 Ota Solgryn wrote: Yes, tryhard is an extremely dumb word, because of what it implies. I agree that those teams can be annoying, but it is really part of the game and can easily be defeated, it is just hard to punish and a small mistake on your team means you have lost. Should tryhard also be used by zerg players who looses to mech terran. Because mech terran is "easier" to do and harder to beat? Or 2base carrier for protoss? i don't think you understand what try hard means try harding is like picking protoss vs terran if protoss was 2:1 winner due to complications that are not skill related. certain heroes are better then others, but i decide to play master yi instead of soraka because he's more fun. soraka is still 50x better then yi. try hards make prearranged teams with the goal of winning in a game where your hidden match making rating isn't even displayed. i'm not going to beat soraka/allistar/janna if i solo que, ever. everyone tries hard in ranked games, but these are games where there isn't even a big reward for winning. losing to someone who uses mech because it's easier isn't try hard, losing to someone abusing a build order which is an auto win build order is try hard. it's like using akuma in a street fighter tournament (he isn't banned in japanese tournaments, just frowned upon using because he's overpowered) | ||
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Cirn9
1117 Posts
On July 05 2010 17:00 shawster wrote: tryhard isn't a dumb term, it's the first word that pops out of your head when you see allistar/soraka/janna on the other team It isn't dumb, its extremely retarded and makes no sense to the utmost extreme. Some people enjoy winning. Some just enjoy playing strong characters, or their character happens to be strong. Not everyone does, but people who don't or disagree want to label "tryhard" against people as a pejorative. "Ohnoes, you're trying your best to win, you suck" Get over it. I don't fall into what people consider tryhard, but I get called it because I only play with my friends, and we talk on skype while playing. And then.. GASP.. I try to win while playing! Its a pointless term. Its as pointless as casualfag. Its just people yelling at each other "YOU DON'T PLAY HOW I DO. SO YOU'RE WRONG" + Show Spoiler + How dare you try your best to win a game? But seriously i find this notion of mocking players who play to win stupid. Do you play a game of chess intending to lose? A sport? A game of cards? No of course not. You can say you are just trying have fun but some people find it fun to strive to win. Hell I don't mind losing but i don't like getting stomped. I find it sad that certain heroes are automatically labeled tryhard. What if we enjoy the damn hero? People are so dense they try to make up excuses for why they are lacking. This is called scrub mentality. http://www.calculatedplay.com/2010/03/throws-are-cheap-honor-rules-a-scrub-mentality/ That article is an amazing read and part of a series of articles detailing that (many other authors have done the same thing). See a scrub is a person who makes rules for the game that don't exist. The game only recognizes two things- the winner and the loser. How you got there doesn't matter. No one gets points for using low tier heroes, unique builds, laning all game or being flashy. Just win. And damn the fools who say "lol it's just a game!" You know what? It is just a game but people enjoy winning. You can make up the excuse of "i was just trying to have fun" when you lose but you know you wanted to win. EDIT: As for the post above me. So what? If they want to play that way, so? Let them. Theres no reason to attempt to berate them because they want to win. You're either better and win, or better and lose because they took stronger champions. Or you're worse and lose or worse/win due to whatever flukes, mistakes made. Either way, you play your best, have fun and move on. Be a good sport and not use derogatory terms. Otherwise it boils down to anyone who calls someone a tryhard is a casualfag and anyone who calls someone a casualfag is a try hard. When it simply should just be gl/hf/gg | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
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