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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On July 05 2010 06:59 Southlight wrote: I actually wonder if that shouldn't be a Garen skin, not Pantheon. Just re-model the hero so that he has a shield slung over his back. It probably would have worked out better for his animations but they clearly just need to make a champion with a sword and shield that can throw bombs and spin | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 05 2010 07 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 05 2010 07 end_of_the_skype_highlighting begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 05 2010 07 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:22 Southlight wrote: DPS Sion is significantly better than AP Sion IMO. I disagree with your opinion. DPS Sion has the exact same problems as Trynd and a lot more. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Sion's passive gives him decent survivability, he has a passive toggle (ie. not really) that gives him a huge chunk of DPS as well as HP (moar survivability), and his ult synergizes with DPS Sion to make him a teamfight terror. To top it off, his laning presence is quite awesome considering he comes with a flat single-target 2 second (longest in the game) stun that also does damage, and a shield that lets him defend, push, and kill. Tell me again how in the world they have the "same exact problems" again, because I'm not seeing it. By contrast, AP Sion has a stronger presence early-game, especially if the other team is gimped and lacks the burst damage to pop his shield, and his late-game is terrible because his shield gets popped and he loses half his damage output. Short of proccing Lichbane (which IIRC has a cooldown on its proc) his ult isn't that good on him, either. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On July 05 2010 07:27 Shikyo wrote: I disagree with your opinion. DPS Sion has the exact same problems as Trynd and a lot more. DPS Sion has a stronger lategame than AP Sion because gaze->whack twice can 3-shot squishies and his ult is like mundo's ult for entire team. | ||
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Brees
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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PaleMan
Russian Federation1953 Posts
(i just like em) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On July 05 2010 08:02 Shikyo wrote: Ok just played another game with DPS Evelynn, 8-2-10 with one quadkill after which they insta-surrendered. They bought wards like real tryhards, had one on each lane and at one point had 3 wards along mid while they were pushing and garen was spamming oracles. Didn't really matter though. it did matter cuz they weren't spending their money on anything useful. that's such a scrubby response to get wtfpwned by Eve | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 05 2010 08 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 05 2010 08 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:06 Mogwai wrote: it did matter cuz they weren't spending their money on anything useful. that's such a scrubby response to get wtfpwned by Eve Of course, I mean that it didn't matter regarding my efficiency. So many eves think that if they can see you you're done, but it's not really true | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
when playing an invisible hero, always play as if they can see you. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 05 2010 08 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 05 2010 08 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:16 Mogwai wrote: there's this old rule of thumb utah used to play with as Twitch... when playing an invisible hero, always play as if they can see you. Yep, you should always use it pretty much after the point your lane opponents first go to base. After that point eve will mostly approach with ulti -> stun, flash -> stun or ghost -> stun, but never goes in first unless there's only one opponent. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On July 05 2010 08:16 Mogwai wrote: there's this old rule of thumb utah used to play with as Twitch... when playing an invisible hero, always play as if they can see you. That's a good strategy. What I do is just hide in the bushes. If I suddenly start attacking creeps, it must mean there's a twitch breathing down my neck. | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
we played against honver he kinda sucked, but there were worse players in that game, lawl. | ||
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Dave[9]
United States2365 Posts
On July 05 2010 08:53 Chairman Ray wrote: That's a good strategy. What I do is just hide in the bushes. If I suddenly start attacking creeps, it must mean there's a twitch breathing down my neck. In general I feel like if you're smart enough, you can use the stealth as a great way to roam the map freely until you KNOW a elixir is out. Stealth gives you map control hugely, it also lets you get in great positions as twitch, because position is EVERYTHING with him. I will often times mid game check to see if they're getting blue/red buffs and gank them while they get it, and it has payed off immensely. Also i do HATE running around and having a hero/creep run under your cursor while clicking to get away and accidentally clicking on them while in stealth :3. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 05 2010 09 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 05 2010 09 end_of_the_skype_highlighting:07 Dave[9] wrote: In general I feel like if you're smart enough, you can use the stealth as a great way to roam the map freely until you KNOW a elixir is out. Stealth gives you map control hugely, it also lets you get in great positions as twitch, because position is EVERYTHING with him. I will often times mid game check to see if they're getting blue/red buffs and gank them while they get it, and it has payed off immensely. Also i do HATE running around and having a hero/creep run under your cursor while clicking to get away and accidentally clicking on them while in stealth :3. With Twitch, I generally wait a pretty long way away, pretty much how Fiddle would, in bushes and whatnot. Then as the fight is initiated I quickly get into position and spray and pray. You absolutely cannot take the risk that they have detection when you're running in their midst, since that will get you killed immediately and you might lose the game immediately. One more thing is feinting or something, pretend like you're going to attack then back off, see if they react to you in any way. If they don't, feel free to do anything. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Shikyo
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