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nataziel
Australia1455 Posts
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On July 04 2010 16:51 Southlight wrote: i mean i don't want to say real men do the impossible. because they don't. they just do the improbable.You shoulda said 5, cuz 4 is doable and aside from the fort/agility isn't really weird. | ||
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Pandonetho
Canada321 Posts
how to get 900+ ap? i want to know the maximum ap you can get without runes + masteries You can get 900, but it's not going to be very effective. You'll need like a maxed out Mejai's and 5 Zhonya Rings. That will probably net you 1000 or something around there but you won't have boots, and having 5 Zhonya's means you're missing out on all the buffs of other AP items. Plus, the unique active on it is global so once you use it all your Zhonya's rings have the cooldown before you can use it again. You'll also be very squishy and slow, prone to getting killed fast. Has anyone seen that pro Anivia video yet? This guy is the best Anivia I've seen all year. Also, there's this saying that my friend came up about me. Since my name happens to be Ken and my username is Pandonetho he would say "Ken playing Kennen is more epic than Pan playing Pantheon." I always though that was pretty funny, although I don't play either of those champs lol. | ||
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Khul Sadukar
Australia1735 Posts
Seriously why do ppl bother? Was the only one on my team with a decent kdr zzz Edit: Oh man had I known, i woulda got anivia and did the same as that guy in the vid. Unfortunately my team didnt need assistance getting killed... | ||
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Pandonetho
Canada321 Posts
Somehow I ended up with a 4man premade (roommates) and they kept having disconnection issues. Seriously why do ppl bother? Was the only one on my team with a decent kdr zzz Beats me man, although I DO know that I've come back from losing a game before because 4 people (premade college people most likely) kept constantly D/Cing near halfway into the game lol. They were raging pretty hard after, saying we were gay for killing them when they D/Ced. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
The dominant team is the siege team, based mainly on the strength of Heimerdinger and Kogmaw in conjunction. No-tank teams with dedicated siege roles (i.e. Soraka, Heimer, Kogmaw, Cho, Morgana) are extremely powerful. There are only a handful of useful tanks, because usually they fill the initiator role. The good ones are Amumu, Rammus and Malphite. Blitzcrank counts more as an initiator, but if you count him he's super strong. Alistar and Shen are not very useful, but they're not particularly bad choices for a comp. The most dangerous carry in the game right now is Tryndamere. The best laning champ right now is Pantheon. The best support is still Soraka, even post-nerfs to everything she did. The best tank is Amumu, and the flavor of the month is Heimerdinger. The next flavor of the month I anticipate to be Gangplank, based on his ability to shut down siege teams and all the buffs he got recently. The next metagame shift will be AoE ult teams to counter the siege teams based around Amumu/Gangplank/Fiddle/Morgana/etc. I'd be interested in seeing posts from other players similar to the one I just made. It will help us keep ahead of the metagame. [edit] Also, one of my friends has been premading with Shurelia and she called Heimerdinger "freaking OP", so I think there may be a Heimer nerf coming in the next few patches. [/edit] | ||
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Pandonetho
Canada321 Posts
I think Tryndamere is trash, and according to other people, Shen is the best tank in the game (I have no opinion of Shen myself, I don't play him and haven't played much against him). Although, I haven't had the chance to play the game ever since Malzahar came out, so things may have changed. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
I don't think there's a "dominant" team but a siege team is the new tryhard team (an extension of the age-old heal teams). Certainly not unbeatable, but it's the most likely to be nerfed (mainly Heimer) and is certainly very aggravating to play against. I don't think anyone is surprised though that Heimer is probably due for a nerf. I don't think tanks are particularly useful at all until late game, which really limits the options to Amumu (as carry as a tank can get) and Rammus (who can affect the game earlier but takes much longer to get going). Blitzcrank is a worse version of Gragas at the moment, whom I don't like either. Shen is terrible - he's fine early-game from level 6-13 but once his ult stops affecting things he becomes pretty useless, as his damage output is <<<<<<<<<< Nasus and his tanking ability <<<<<<<< stuff like Udyr. Tryndamere is still trash. The most dangerous carry is Heimerdinger, followed by either Trist or Ezreal. Master Yi is the most dangerous jungler, followed by Shaco, then Udyr is a distant third. Taric or Soraka are the two best support (pretty even, now), best tank is Taric (mostly because of he's one of the best support again), and the FotM hero is Gangplank but I think he's overrated. Heimer and Pantheon are probably going to be nerfed next patch. Most heroes in the game are remarkably balanced now, IMO. Edit: Actually, I think tower-dive teams are the most ridiculous. Some combination of heroes such as Kass/TF/Kat/Panth/Yi/Warwick/Gragas are absolutely filthy. They "kick in" much faster than siege teams, and usually come with strong lane control that gets compounded by "nowhere to run." Well, this goes with my belief that lane control teams, such as the Ashe/Ez + Panth/Kat + Soraka/Kass team that I keep touting, are the most dominant in the game, because you gimp so many heroes. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On July 04 2010 19:04 Southlight wrote: I've mostly been playing solo queue, but... I don't think there's a "dominant" team but a siege team is the new tryhard team (an extension of the age-old heal teams). Certainly not unbeatable, but it's the most likely to be nerfed (mainly Heimer) and is certainly very aggravating to play against. I don't think anyone is surprised though that Heimer is probably due for a nerf. I don't think tanks are particularly useful at all until late game, which really limits the options to Amumu (as carry as a tank can get) and Rammus (who can affect the game earlier but takes much longer to get going). Blitzcrank is a worse version of Gragas at the moment, whom I don't like either. Shen is terrible - he's fine early-game from level 6-13 but once his ult stops affecting things he becomes pretty useless, as his damage output is <<<<<<<<<< Nasus and his tanking ability <<<<<<<< stuff like Udyr. Tryndamere is still trash. The most dangerous carry is Heimerdinger, followed by either Trist or Ezreal. Master Yi is the most dangerous jungler, followed by Shaco, then Udyr is a distant third. Taric or Soraka are the two best support (pretty even, now), best tank is Taric (mostly because of he's one of the best support again), and the FotM hero is Gangplank but I think he's overrated. Heimer and Pantheon are probably going to be nerfed next patch. Most heroes in the game are remarkably balanced now, IMO. Edit: Actually, I think tower-dive teams are the most ridiculous. Some combination of heroes such as Kass/TF/Kat/Panth/Yi/Warwick/Gragas are absolutely filthy. They "kick in" much faster than siege teams, and usually come with strong lane control that gets compounded by "nowhere to run." Well, this goes with my belief that lane control teams, such as the Ashe/Ez + Panth/Kat + Soraka/Kass team that I keep touting, are the most dominant in the game, because you gimp so many heroes. mostly agree with this! carry heim is just so imba such that while everyone sitting on 10+ creeps, heim already 300+ and use his items to rape people + tower. Panth is not that much imba but in hand of skillful player, we just cant gank him properly. Yi + Shaco are the best in solo push back door etc while a strong heim can do all the basic defends. Dont know much about Taric since i dont see him often but soraka is just anoying in team fight. I also want to add in Zilean which should be in top of the support champs simply bc he is made to be one  . Ezreal + Kat are just imba at going mid + ganking such that if you dont play defensively and fed them, there is absolutely NO freaking way you can come back in mid game.we also should take a look at the new champ Kog! The combination between him and soraka is just unstopable. | ||
GTR
51500 Posts
we lost all of our lane towers and the guy on the other team goes: 'it's been 25 minutes you can surrender now' then we won 35 minutes later. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On July 04 2010 19:36 GTR wrote: i just played another funny game we lost all of our lane towers and the guy on the other team goes: 'it's been 25 minutes you can surrender now' then we won 35 minutes later. that is one of the anoying things happening right now to me, after getting absolute dominance early on and get 6 turrets, there almost no freaking way to push in if the enemy team has some champs like Heim or anivia, even baron wont help the situation and if you are not careful, an ace happen and you lose the game. This happen mostly because the level cap 18 make people stop growing and start depending on items. as we push, the enemy safely farm behind turrets so their farming is guarentee such that eventualy, they will hit 18 and max out their item. My only suggestion to this is to make the entrance to base right now 30% bigger to allow moar concave shits. | ||
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
On July 04 2010 19:36 GTR wrote: i just played another funny game we lost all of our lane towers and the guy on the other team goes: 'it's been 25 minutes you can surrender now' then we won 35 minutes later. I was in that game. Which one were you? | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
And then everytime they tried to go back to stop yi, I would shadow dash right into them and ignite the most dangerous one if I'm about to die, since they can't b until its gone. Nasus would just ulti and gimp their entire team and wither the guys running away. His ulti was owning the enemy Shen and 6-feasted Cho, lol. I was Shen btw. | ||
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GTR
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Tadzio
3340 Posts
On July 04 2010 19:46 Juicyfruit wrote: We didn't have heim or anivia. We had yi and twitch.They try to push = yi kills towers while twitch pentakills them or something from behind the tower while I attempted to tank and Ashe was just slowing them all down. And then everytime they tried to go back to stop yi, I would shadow dash right into them and ignite the most dangerous one if I'm about to die, since they can't b until its gone. I was Shen btw. No mention of the Nasus o' Doom? | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
Btw, my favorite part is GTR and Tadzio trying to kill baron by themselves and failing. And then THEY tried to take baron, but yi and twitch suicided into them and got them all super low so that they can't do it anymore. | ||
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Dave[9]
United States2365 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Netherlands12045 Posts
On July 04 2010 19:55 Dave[9] wrote: Hahahaha yeah, when I play twitch at 3:30 AM things like that happen XD i hate this guy simply bc his name make me mistake with smone else. as i said, yi and shaco are annoying in backdoor... so you guys have a nasus, no wonder thats a good use of ignite btw, hv nevar think that way :D.... | ||
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