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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 03 2010 00:04 GMT
#3581
On July 03 2010 09 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              03 2010 09      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:02 skyR wrote:
solo queueing in this game is unbearable in comparison to TDA and HoN. There's a leaver at hero selection screen or after first blood 99% of my games and I'm level 17.

Around lvl 30 I haven't had a leaver in like 50 games, so you just need to get there first :/
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
g1rg10
Profile Joined October 2007
Italy186 Posts
July 03 2010 00:18 GMT
#3582
just had 3 games with at least one leaver... atm i'm just like, fuck that, i'll play just to get good with more champions for season one
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 03 2010 00:29 GMT
#3583
On July 03 2010 08:48 myopia wrote:
I can't find their posts but Southlight and Mogwai have made convincing arguments for solo queuing, basically saying that if you premade you'll be placed against much higher elo opponents.


which means you'll get better by playing against them, and learn how to coordinate with 4 other people on your team
or you can keep playing low level pubbies with no communication where each team has 5 carries and cry when you have a feeder and only win if the other team has a feeder

there's really no reason to solo queue in this game at all
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Balzy
Profile Joined August 2008
United States113 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 00:32:53
July 03 2010 00:32 GMT
#3584
no liquidparty :'(

solo q makes me solo /cry
In short, I pissed in Gods eye... and he blinked. - Dr. Thaddeus Venture
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
July 03 2010 00:44 GMT
#3585
lol went 19-2 on cl stream haha.
will post direct link when it loads.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 00:57:12
July 03 2010 00:54 GMT
#3586
On July 03 2010 09:44 redtooth wrote:
lol went 19-2 on cl stream haha.
will post direct link when it loads.

Yeah just turned it on and I see you playing on Araragi's team. Never see you with Hotshotgg though.
edit: You're nid with 7 cs hehe.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
July 03 2010 01:03 GMT
#3587
Zzz, I started buying an avarice blade early on nidalee for fun, since it turns out I don't go back to town until I have tons more gold than what my first item needs, it always ends up being a free 12% crit that doesn't delay my build whatsoever.

Its fun to win autoattack wars through RNG
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 03 2010 01:14 GMT
#3588
On July 03 2010 09 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              03 2010 09      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:29 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 08:48 myopia wrote:
I can't find their posts but Southlight and Mogwai have made convincing arguments for solo queuing, basically saying that if you premade you'll be placed against much higher elo opponents.


which means you'll get better by playing against them, and learn how to coordinate with 4 other people on your team
or you can keep playing low level pubbies with no communication where each team has 5 carries and cry when you have a feeder and only win if the other team has a feeder

there's really no reason to solo queue in this game at all


[image loading]

You just don't know how it's done!

BTW I think I'm the only person who uses that build on Tryndamere.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
July 03 2010 01:14 GMT
#3589
I know someone has probably answered this but I can't find it... Have they said when we should have chat working again?
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 01:16:14
July 03 2010 01:15 GMT
#3590
Can anyone good explain to me why everyone seem to think malady is a godawful item?

I was playing teemo and I got a phange and IE before I got the malady, so I had a decent amount of damage, slow, and I was shutting down their twitch every team fight with my blind. I ended up going 7-2-9 and everyone else on my team (janna, singed, pantheon, trynd) had a negative k/d and after the game the singed was shit talking me like "gg malady teemo" over and over, and when I talk back to him a bunch of the others, including the other team, pretty much back him up.

I mean I can understand the thought process that starks is a better team item for not too much extra gold, but malady seems like the cheapest source of IAS+Leech - both of which teemo benefits from greatly since it procs his poison/phange's slow/crits more often, and you need some source of leech as a squishy dpser. Its not like I was the only damage on our team since we had a trynd and pantheon.

Am I way out of line here, or am I right in thinking malady gets a bad wrap and people are just repeating what they have heard others say?
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
July 03 2010 01:16 GMT
#3591
On July 03 2010 09:54 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 09:44 redtooth wrote:
lol went 19-2 on cl stream haha.
will post direct link when it loads.

Yeah just turned it on and I see you playing on Araragi's team. Never see you with Hotshotgg though.
edit: You're nid with 7 cs hehe.
i'm so bad at nid -____-
was gonna kat again but kobe was there and wanted it.
he's the one person in the world i would give it up to.
we stomped them though so it's all good.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
July 03 2010 01:17 GMT
#3592
On July 03 2010 08:48 myopia wrote:
I can't find their posts but Southlight and Mogwai have made convincing arguments for solo queuing, basically saying that if you premade you'll be placed against much higher elo opponents.

I do pure solo myself. Sure, you get the occasional retard on your team, but they show up on the opposition just as often. I'm still pulling a 60% win rate after ~80 games. Solo queue makes a man out of you.
here's my argument: if you are better then average, you should win more then average.

matchmaking works in a way that in the long run your opponents' skill levels and your teammates' skill levels average out to be around the same. this is because you are randomly assigned games based on ELO, a semi-accurate assessment of skill. no matter how it seems the world is against you, there is no way MM would make your average opponent stronger than your average teammate.

here's the kicker: if you are above average, that means you have an advantage. let's arbitrarily assign a grade of 5 to each "average" player in your game. that means if you have a skill grade of say 7, your team's average skill should be higher then your opponent's average skill.

of course this is all in theory but it's been backed by solid evidence as well. most of high ELO players solo-qued to the top and still solo ques. neoillusions and i are probably two of the biggest advocates of solo queing and we are ~140 and ~100 wins over losses respectively. Phreak's smurf further supports this statement because he was able to get to high ELO in ~150 wins purely solo-queing. jiji/lilballz and qtips all have smurfs in high ELO.

i hope you understood this insightful analysis into MM. brought to you by the most humble man on earth.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 03 2010 01:20 GMT
#3593
On July 03 2010 10 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              03 2010 10      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:15 radmax86 wrote:
Can anyone good explain to me why everyone seem to think malady is a godawful item?

I was playing teemo and I got a phange and IE before I got the malady, so I had a decent amount of damage, slow, and I was shutting down their twitch every team fight with my blind. I ended up going 7-2-9 and everyone else on my team (janna, singed, pantheon, trynd) had a negative k/d and after the game the singed was shit talking me like "gg malady teemo" over and over, and when I talk back to him a bunch of the others, including the other team, pretty much back him up.

I mean I can understand the thought process that starks is a better team item for not too much extra gold, but malady seems like the cheapest source of IAS+Leech - both of which teemo benefits from greatly since it procs his poison/phange's slow/crits more often, and you need some source of leech as a squishy dpser. Its not like I was the only damage on our team since we had a trynd and pantheon.

Am I way out of line here, or am I right in thinking malady gets a bad wrap and people are just repeating what they have heard others say?

Because malady's passive is awful and basically it only gives you 50% attack speed. Attack speed stacking sucks in general, and Stark's Fervor is a much better item if you want lifesteal and aspd, phantom dancer if you want attack speed and some extra dps, last whisper if you want the attack speed and also gives some dmg and armor pen. Stark's Fervor and Bloodthirster both are a lot better lifesteal items, and since it normally is a waste to have more than one slot be a lifesteal item, I'd always get either of those instead of malady. Plus the fact that everyone who gets malady fails.

Your teemo, well he's have been a lot better off witha Phantom Dancer and a vampire scepter if you wanted the damage. Even if it costs more... If you think that's too much, Last Whisper + scepter still is a lot better. Malady's pretty much the worst item you can get for its cost.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
July 03 2010 01:24 GMT
#3594
not full games but most of the parts of the kat game:
part1
part2

also the next one in the list is my nid game but i did so bad.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 03 2010 01:46 GMT
#3595
On July 03 2010 10 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              03 2010 10      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:24 redtooth wrote:
not full games but most of the parts of the kat game:
part1
part2

also the next one in the list is my nid game but i did so bad.

Do you think you could type your exact summoner name here? The quality is kind of meh
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
July 03 2010 01:48 GMT
#3596
of my over 1k games, I think like 10 are premade. I enjoy solo as well.
Brees on in
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
July 03 2010 01:59 GMT
#3597
what is wrong with the chat channel? activision bought riot game or what?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
July 03 2010 02:06 GMT
#3598
On July 03 2010 10:48 Brees wrote:
of my over 1k games, I think like 10 are premade. I enjoy solo as well.


I just don't get the mentality. Like 70% of the fun for me is hanging out with my friends on Skype. We may not be the best team, but goddamn do I enjoy yelling into the mic to go get baron. :D


Soloqueueing seems kinda lonely.
radmax86
Profile Joined September 2004
United States437 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 02:17:02
July 03 2010 02:14 GMT
#3599
On July 03 2010 10:20 Shikyo wrote:
Your teemo, well he's have been a lot better off witha Phantom Dancer and a vampire scepter if you wanted the damage. Even if it costs more... If you think that's too much, Last Whisper + scepter still is a lot better. Malady's pretty much the worst item you can get for its cost.


It just feels to me like you are repeating stuff you have heard without much basis. Take a look at the efficiency spreadsheet and tell me why malady is bad for its cost.

Also take a look at some of the alternate items you recommended like Phantom dancer which you are paying 750 gold for the MS and Dodge just to break even and both are stats teemo doesnt really need. Or last whisper you are paying 550 for -40% armor pen which in this specific game wouldn't have done much good, and you still end up needing leech.

The only valid argument I can see is that starks is an even more efficient item, but there are issues with timing, cost, and how much your team would really benefit from the auras that must be taken into consideration.
.
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5461 Posts
July 03 2010 02:18 GMT
#3600
On July 03 2010 10:46 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 03 2010 10 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting              03 2010 10      end_of_the_skype_highlighting:24 redtooth wrote:
not full games but most of the parts of the kat game:
part1
part2

also the next one in the list is my nid game but i did so bad.

Do you think you could type your exact summoner name here? The quality is kind of meh
wrawrawrawra
i'm the kat

also, why is your quoting always so messed up?
"end of the skype highlighting"
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