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SBelmont
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Balzy
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On July 01 2010 04:33 Shikyo wrote: Balzy: Rylai's is good on Fiddle, although I personally would only get it after a RoA and a Zhonya and maybe Abyssal depending on a few factors. kk so its better to get a nice mana and ap base before getting it is what you're saying? and what about hextech revolver? is the extra spell vamp worth it? has anyone ever tried adding 1 or 2 sunfires after getting a nice mana and ap base? i usually go this for my build (im still noob at fiddle so be nice!) boots and 2 mana pots sorc boots mejais or catalyst depending on if im gankin nubbies (like me lol) banshees rylai's zhonyas any help is greatly appreciated! <3 <3 and im only lvl 14 if that figures into the equation On July 01 2010 04:36 SBelmont wrote: Rylai's is a wonderful item for Fiddle. It gives him the extra HP and AP he needs, and the slow is deadly with Crowstorm. kk thanks  yeah i've noticed that the slow helps me save my flash for a little later in my crowstorm. sometimes get to save it all together if i get a nice fear off. thanks for the reply! <3<3 | ||
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Frolossus
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Mogwai
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p.s. archangels got buffed because... well... it just wasn't very good. | ||
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Frolossus
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Southlight
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gtrsrs
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On July 01 2010 04:52 Southlight wrote: Just an FYI Archangels Mana+ doesn't stack. You have a hardcap of like 1000 mana from any number of Archangels combined. i thought archangels stacked with another tears of the goddess though, right? | ||
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Southlight
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Whoever was the Kennen I was supposed to 1v1, I'm home now, and online. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 01 2010 04:52 Southlight wrote: Just an FYI Archangels Mana+ doesn't stack. You have a hardcap of like 1000 mana from any number of Archangels combined. But the 3% mana to ap convertion does stack. 6 archangels and you get a bonus 450*6 = 2700 + 1000 = 3700 mana and you get 45*6 = 270 ap from just them, in addition to 18% of your max mana, which with 4400 mana is 4400 *0.18 = 792. 792 + 270 = 1062 hmmm numbers don't add up... No wtf you couldn't have only 4400 mana with 3700 bonus mana, let's assume 5400 instead. 972 -> 1242 hmm... I guess it's like 4700 total mana or something, whatever. EDIT: In any case, 5 arch + Zhonya is a lot better and is going to get you insane amounts of AP, I had 1700 like that with Veigar before the buff. | ||
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gtrsrs
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HeavOnEarth
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Southlight
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Frolossus
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gtrsrs
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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
 (800+ 120)*.25 + (800+120) Besides this is silly, anivia is more about sustained dps rather than nuking people before they get to you. You need the +HP items such as RoA or rylais. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 01 2010 05:02 Frolossus wrote: you get more from the 6th staff then from a zhonyas i think, i went from 800 some ap to 1110 with the final staff Nope, do you know how much 25% is? However, you might like the extra mana and mana regen, but I find that 125 mp5 and 4500 mana is kinda enough. In any case, yeah. My new Veigar build is going to be Arch, Zhonya, another 3 Archs. Hope people will enjoy 1400 ap coming their way ;S | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3889 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 01 2010 05:25 BraveGhost wrote: I build all my non viegar casters with RoA first, it's just a great item... I also tend to get death fire grasp where a lot of other people build rylais, I like having another nuke... The slow is relevant, but I usually just try to use my stun/snare effectively. I don't really like Deathfire grasp, vs tanks(who'll have mres) it's going to do like 15% of their hp and vs others the rest of your spells do a lot more, I'd much rather get a Void Staff or something. | ||
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sleeepy
Canada777 Posts
On July 01 2010 04:42 Balzy wrote: kk so its better to get a nice mana and ap base before getting it is what you're saying? and what about hextech revolver? is the extra spell vamp worth it? has anyone ever tried adding 1 or 2 sunfires after getting a nice mana and ap base? i usually go this for my build (im still noob at fiddle so be nice!) boots and 2 mana pots sorc boots mejais or catalyst depending on if im gankin nubbies (like me lol) banshees rylai's zhonyas any help is greatly appreciated! <3 <3 and im only lvl 14 if that figures into the equation kk thanks yeah i've noticed that the slow helps me save my flash for a little later in my crowstorm. sometimes get to save it all together if i get a nice fear off. thanks for the reply! <3<3Hextech revolver is overpriced for what it gives imo. What fiddle needs is hp so people can't instagib you when you ult and magic pen because his passive already gives you a nice head start on that. I consider fiddle my strongest character (71-47 with him, 270-227 overall) and my build is doran's ring + health pot sorc boots catalyst finish RoA haunting guise abyssal zhonya I consider this a well-balanced build because it gives you a lot of survivability with doran's, RoA, guise and the MR from abyssal, enough AP for you to remain a threat and then a ton of magic pen" 40 from guise and boots, 20 from abyssal aura, 10 from your passive, 8 from runes and 15% from masteries. Of course you can always make adjustments. If you're stomping them, get a mejai. If they're all stacking MR, get void staff. This build isn't perfect, but it's the best I've come up with and from my experience I can tell you it works. | ||
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Shikyo
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