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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
November 02 2010 14:26 GMT
#28161
Is GRB actually good on Sivir with the buff? I can sorta see going GRB -> Thirster stack now.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 02 2010 14:45 GMT
#28162
If the AP scaling wasn't removed, might be pretty lulzy. Otherwise: Nah
cool beans
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
November 02 2010 14:48 GMT
#28163
On November 02 2010 15:23 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Fair enough--I'd still like to hear some reasons why, because as far as I'm concerned it's got definite advantages and I've seen a few good-but-not-great players do it, but I'll take it from Mog that it's bad to sui. I'm probably still going to do it.

You'd have to be a real tard to give up FB doing it, so clearly that's not where I'm coming from with it. Here are the reasons I don't like it:

1. Revive mastery lasts just 2 minutes.
2. Pantheon rapes 95% of the cast in the first 2 minutes anyway
3. Of the matchups that he doesn't rape anyway, the only one that changes with a revive buff is Kennen.
4. If you get ganked, you no longer have revive
5. You're out of position for potential teamfights... what if they decide to come establish 5 man position on your golem while you're waiting to suicide into their tower (since you only get 2 minutes of the buff, you can't rush it)? Not being able to help your team in situations like that is extremely detrimental, especially on a level 1 monster like Pantheon

On November 02 2010 23:26 oberon wrote:
Is GRB actually good on Sivir with the buff? I can sorta see going GRB -> Thirster stack now.

What? no, why would you go GRB?
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 02 2010 14:50 GMT
#28164
if your fed and can afford a GRB after your 2 warmog's and force of nature, sure.

P.S. might want a spirit visage on sivir too
Brees on in
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
November 02 2010 14:50 GMT
#28165
On November 02 2010 23:48 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 23:26 oberon wrote:
Is GRB actually good on Sivir with the buff? I can sorta see going GRB -> Thirster stack now.

What? no, why would you go GRB?


Because it gives aspd + AD for your W, AD + AP for your Q, and doesn't cost much? I figure Sivir still probably wants ONE aspd item, and it seems like the best one (unless Last Whisper now works with bouncing blade, in which case it's the obvious choice).
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 15:26:53
November 02 2010 14:51 GMT
#28166
On November 02 2010 23:50 Brees wrote:
if your fed and can afford a GRB after your 2 warmog's and force of nature, sure.

P.S. might want a spirit visage on sivir too


I know you're trolling, but why does your troll contain MRes instead of armor? It's pretty hard to burst down someone with a ton of HP, and Sivir has spellshield...?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 14:55:02
November 02 2010 14:54 GMT
#28167
On November 02 2010 23:50 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 23:48 Mogwai wrote:
On November 02 2010 23:26 oberon wrote:
Is GRB actually good on Sivir with the buff? I can sorta see going GRB -> Thirster stack now.

What? no, why would you go GRB?


Because it gives aspd + AD for your W, AD + AP for your Q, and doesn't cost much? I figure Sivir still probably wants ONE aspd item, and it seems like the best one (unless Last Whisper now works with bouncing blade, in which case it's the obvious choice).

LW has worked with Ricochet since last patch lol. So yea, GRB can go eat a dick. She only has 1 AP ratio anyway and it's on the skill she typically uses to open a fight, so it's not like you're really going to benefit from the AP on it until the 2nd one. And GRB sucks as an AS item because it takes too long to build up.

EDIT: it's for the Regen, duh!
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 02 2010 15:00 GMT
#28168
On November 02 2010 23:54 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 23:50 oberon wrote:
On November 02 2010 23:48 Mogwai wrote:
On November 02 2010 23:26 oberon wrote:
Is GRB actually good on Sivir with the buff? I can sorta see going GRB -> Thirster stack now.

What? no, why would you go GRB?


Because it gives aspd + AD for your W, AD + AP for your Q, and doesn't cost much? I figure Sivir still probably wants ONE aspd item, and it seems like the best one (unless Last Whisper now works with bouncing blade, in which case it's the obvious choice).

LW has worked with Ricochet since last patch lol. So yea, GRB can go eat a dick. She only has 1 AP ratio anyway and it's on the skill she typically uses to open a fight, so it's not like you're really going to benefit from the AP on it until the 2nd one. And GRB sucks as an AS item because it takes too long to build up.

EDIT: it's for the Regen, duh!


regen is OP. ask regen nunu.
Brees on in
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 15:03:29
November 02 2010 15:03 GMT
#28169
On November 02 2010 16:54 ProdT wrote:
Lol trust me, the "high elos" in the TL channel dont know much more about the game than the average 500+ game player, you should take their opinions and advice with a grain of salt. You use what you know works, don't let someone tell you how to play because they have 100 or whatever more elo than you in a team game.

is that why when we play in inhouses we win with DPS Shen and Tank Fiddle and Manamune -> double Phantom Dancer Gangplank?

EDIT: oh yes, that's right... I went there, :p lol
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
November 02 2010 15:11 GMT
#28170
oh and nothing is more annoying then walking into a public bathroom and noticing the domino effect. One guy pisses really far away from the stall and pisses on the floor. then the guy doesnt want to step in it so he pisses even farther back. This just keeps happening until you cant even fucking get close to the stall. GG
Brees on in
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 15:20:19
November 02 2010 15:13 GMT
#28171
On November 03 2010 00:11 Brees wrote:
oh and nothing is more annoying then walking into a public bathroom and noticing the domino effect. One guy pisses really far away from the stall and pisses on the floor. then the guy doesnt want to step in it so he pisses even farther back. This just keeps happening until you cant even fucking get close to the stall. GG

I fail to see how this is related to LoL. Really, what?

On November 02 2010 22:40 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
I like Stark's. The only good lifesteal item if Thirsters aren't an option.

I like Stark's. The only good lifesteal item that you don't actually have to buy yourself.
If you're a physical DPS and a tank/support grabs Starks for you... Sooo nice.

However if I want lifesteal on Twitch, I just grab a Vamp Scepter and then continue with my other items. Later on I might build it into a BT or just an Exec for crit and lulz.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
ProV1
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States980 Posts
November 02 2010 15:17 GMT
#28172
On November 03 2010 00:13 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 00:11 Brees wrote:
oh and nothing is more annoying then walking into a public bathroom and noticing the domino effect. One guy pisses really far away from the stall and pisses on the floor. then the guy doesnt want to step in it so he pisses even farther back. This just keeps happening until you cant even fucking get close to the stall. GG

I fail to see how this is related to LoL. Really, what?


It's the snowball effect in LOL that I believe he's talking about. Which is not as bad as other MOBA's.


Correct me if I'm wrong.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 02 2010 15:23 GMT
#28173
On November 03 2010 00:13 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 22:40 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
I like Stark's. The only good lifesteal item if Thirsters aren't an option.

I like Stark's. The only good lifesteal item that you don't actually have to buy yourself.
If you're a physical DPS and a tank/support grabs Starks for you... Sooo nice.


when have you EVER had this happen in solo queue, on EU server
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 02 2010 15:26 GMT
#28174
On November 03 2010 00:23 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 00:13 spinesheath wrote:
On November 02 2010 22:40 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
I like Stark's. The only good lifesteal item if Thirsters aren't an option.

I like Stark's. The only good lifesteal item that you don't actually have to buy yourself.
If you're a physical DPS and a tank/support grabs Starks for you... Sooo nice.


when have you EVER had this happen in solo queue, on EU server

Well yeah... when I play Janna.
Never got an ally to do it for me when I was Ashe TT
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 15:30:04
November 02 2010 15:29 GMT
#28175
On November 02 2010 23:54 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 23:50 oberon wrote:
On November 02 2010 23:48 Mogwai wrote:
On November 02 2010 23:26 oberon wrote:
Is GRB actually good on Sivir with the buff? I can sorta see going GRB -> Thirster stack now.

What? no, why would you go GRB?


Because it gives aspd + AD for your W, AD + AP for your Q, and doesn't cost much? I figure Sivir still probably wants ONE aspd item, and it seems like the best one (unless Last Whisper now works with bouncing blade, in which case it's the obvious choice).

LW has worked with Ricochet since last patch lol. So yea, GRB can go eat a dick. She only has 1 AP ratio anyway and it's on the skill she typically uses to open a fight, so it's not like you're really going to benefit from the AP on it until the 2nd one. And GRB sucks as an AS item because it takes too long to build up.

EDIT: it's for the Regen, duh!


So LW -> Thirster -> Thirster -> Maddened laughter?

Edit: What about Corki, the other champ who get a +AD scaling on a nuke? Is GRB useful on him now?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 02 2010 15:29 GMT
#28176
On November 03 2010 00:11 Brees wrote:
oh and nothing is more annoying then walking into a public bathroom and noticing the domino effect. One guy pisses really far away from the stall and pisses on the floor. then the guy doesnt want to step in it so he pisses even farther back. This just keeps happening until you cant even fucking get close to the stall. GG

I agree with this statement.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 15:35:51
November 02 2010 15:34 GMT
#28177
On November 03 2010 00:29 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2010 00:11 Brees wrote:
oh and nothing is more annoying then walking into a public bathroom and noticing the domino effect. One guy pisses really far away from the stall and pisses on the floor. then the guy doesnt want to step in it so he pisses even farther back. This just keeps happening until you cant even fucking get close to the stall. GG

I agree with this statement.

maybe that's how they do it in Mashall Islands and the Czech Republic, but I have to say I've never observed this phenomena in the US, lol.

On November 03 2010 00:29 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 23:54 Mogwai wrote:
On November 02 2010 23:50 oberon wrote:
On November 02 2010 23:48 Mogwai wrote:
On November 02 2010 23:26 oberon wrote:
Is GRB actually good on Sivir with the buff? I can sorta see going GRB -> Thirster stack now.

What? no, why would you go GRB?


Because it gives aspd + AD for your W, AD + AP for your Q, and doesn't cost much? I figure Sivir still probably wants ONE aspd item, and it seems like the best one (unless Last Whisper now works with bouncing blade, in which case it's the obvious choice).

LW has worked with Ricochet since last patch lol. So yea, GRB can go eat a dick. She only has 1 AP ratio anyway and it's on the skill she typically uses to open a fight, so it's not like you're really going to benefit from the AP on it until the 2nd one. And GRB sucks as an AS item because it takes too long to build up.

EDIT: it's for the Regen, duh!


So LW -> Thirster -> Thirster -> Maddened laughter?

Edit: What about Corki, the other champ who get a +AD scaling on a nuke? Is GRB useful on him now?

probably not good on corki.

Sivir should go BT -> LW at some point in her build, probably after 2 Warmogs :p
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
November 02 2010 15:35 GMT
#28178
I'm dling the patch nao.

Gonna go play some ranked with Sivir even though I haven't touched her since like 800 games ago. ^_^
Retvrn to Forvms
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
November 02 2010 15:43 GMT
#28179
Are servers up yet? I'm playing on EU til I get confirmation.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-02 15:57:31
November 02 2010 15:48 GMT
#28180
US up
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/server-status

Wow i TOTALLY expected Le Blanc to be 6300, yet she is 3150!
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