i always thought it was regeneration as in "stand still and heal"
it might stack with mundo's passive and the like but i didn't think it counted with heals

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

October 24 2010 04:59 GMT

#26444

The regen is minuscule, I take good hands over it on everyone. Especially on people with global ults.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

October 24 2010 05:07 GMT

#26445

On October 24 2010 13:55 arnath wrote:
Does Perseverance (tier 1 utility mastery) affect self-casted heals (e.g., Nidalee's heal)?

Pretty sure it only affects regeneration effects and not heals. Note that Ignite says "healing and regeneration" when it refers to both, so it would make sense that effects that only say "regeneration" like Perseverance does only affect regeneration effects.

Misder

United States1557 Posts

October 24 2010 05:14 GMT

#26446

Is it worth to take expanded mind (the one that increases max mana) if I'm running manamune?

cascades

Singapore6122 Posts

October 24 2010 05:14 GMT

#26447

On October 24 2010 12:10 yazu wrote:

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On October 24 2010 12:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:

On October 24 2010 11:24 Jazriel wrote:

On October 24 2010 07:41 TALegion wrote:
Can I just ask one question: Why does the community for this game suck? (THIS IS NOT HATE, READ ON)

Many of my RL friends have had this game for a few months, and seeing as they're all still playing, I thought I'd try this game out. I've only played a few matches, and it seems to be the same situation every game. A good 75%-90% of people (I'm not accusing/assuming anyone here is a jerk. Innocent until proven guilty) just BM and bitch the ENTIRE. FUCKING. GAME.
Some people I've asked says it's been a reoccurring theme, stemming from DotA, which I never played extensively either.

The game itself is rather good, and would enjoy playing more if I didn't get the feeling that I'm playing with angry, socially awkward 12-year olds in their parents basement. I can take BM, I don't care about it overall, but constant, retarded barrages of children sounding like sailors just makes the experience awkward for me.

The TL peeps are just as BM as your random pubby. If you can, just play exclusively with your RL friends.

Not true, TL premades are great and in most cases better than your group of friends. TL has a good amount of high level players who are well-mannered. Jazriel, I don't know who you are on League but I'm pretty sure I've never played with you and I play with anyone in TL that will play. The most fun I have in this game is unranked any level 5 man premades with TL and the occasional 5 man ranked with the better players. I think if you gamed with us more you'd feel the same way too, I can name a ton of people that idle in liquidparty off the top of my head that I would 5 man with at any time and expect to have a great game, win or lose.

On October 24 2010 10:10 deth2munkies wrote:

On October 24 2010 07:45 NeoIllusions wrote:

On October 24 2010 07:35 deth2munkies wrote:

On October 24 2010 07:24 NeoIllusions wrote:

On October 24 2010 07:18 HazMat wrote:
Ghost is so much better than flash.

Eh, in most cases, sure. But the fact that you can Flash out of a stun and have the utility of blinking across walls is why you see players run Flash/Ghost and not Cleanse/Ghost.

Not to mention there are several champions highly dependent on Flash for initiation purposes.

The reason you don't run Cleanse anymore is because most everything worth cleansing is now suppression, so you can't. That and it doesn't remove those ignites (DAMN IGNITES). Flash/Ghost is great for guys who require positioning like MF....and pretty much EVERY ranged carry now that I think of it.

wat? There are two Suppression moves in the game: WW and Malz ulti. There are plenty of stuns and snares that Cleanse still remove.

Cleanse's top 3 uses when I used it were WW ult -> Ashe ult -> Ignite/Malz dots/ult. Only 1 of those is still cleansible. I think it still has its uses (I run it on my smurfs that don't have flash because it's the second best), but better to use flash to get yourself in a position to NOT get stunned. I've found by playing the hell out of Tristana lately, that I can usually end up going almost pure damage (sometimes Frozen Mallet for health or Banshee's Veil if they have a ridiculous comp) and not die in teamfights just by positioning myself to NOT take snares and CC. If they attack me, they have to go through the rest of my team and risk themselves for doing so, and I can always jumpflash over 2 walls to get away.

Same thing with MF, and it can help you to set up your ult too. I found 2 things when I ran cleanse:

1) I didn't get stunned enough to justify using it. I didn't allow myself to be ganked or put myself in a compromising position.

2) If I did get stunned, Cleanse would not have saved me. Stuns are usually followed up by snares from red buffed carries, which means you can't run anyway.

Cleanse used to be overpowered as hell and a super crutch. Now that it's balanced, it's clear that Flash has become even more predominant, it's probably next on the chopping block.

Actually it was Mord ult/Ashe ult/ignite/WW ult/Malz ult that were the most common cleanses iirc. Suppression was added because they didn't want people's ults to be useless, cleanse not working on ignite made ignite actually useful, and flash has been nerfed a million times already. If they were removing it they would have removed it already. I feel like it's perfectly balanced as is.

Yea I completely agree. Almost all the TL people that I have played with have been funny, kind, and awesome. I have had so many great games playing either ranked, unranked, inhouses, troll games, etc. Really must of the people are nice except for the occasional meanie or "can't handle losing" types.

Yeah, at most one rager per game, if there is one at all. This explains why 5hit always finds his games filled with well-mannered players.

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

October 24 2010 05:14 GMT

#26448

if you're garen with FoN and 2 warmogs, and you haven't been hit in the last 7 seconds... perseverance is a pretty good skill to have leveled

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

October 24 2010 05:36 GMT

#26449

Eh, there are all kinds of people in TL. Some are tryhard ragers, others are just there to screw around and have fun. Me, I'd say it depends on my mood. Sometimes I just want to win, and I have a competitive nature, so if someone makes a stupid move I'm like "WTF WHY?" But I'm the same with myself as well, b/c if I make a dumb mistake I'm just upset I did something so stupid.

Other times I just want to have fun and screw around, win or lose. Like playing brave panth and whatnot. I tend to be the same with my friends as well. Sometime we'll just screw around (did tonight and I got a penta playing MF) (12/3/7 after that penta....ALMOST 13/3/7........ALMOST!!) Other times we'll rage at one another for bad moves.

Niton

United States2395 Posts

October 24 2010 05:42 GMT

#26450

On October 24 2010 14:14 Misder wrote:
Is it worth to take expanded mind (the one that increases max mana) if I'm running manamune?

No. Even if it was worth it, there's no points to take out of except Meditation (nope) or CDR (almost anyways nope). That said, 5% max mana gives you an extra 100 mana at 2k mana, which gives you 2 AD from manamune - 4 points for 100 mana and 2 AD. Not a very good deal.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

October 24 2010 05:52 GMT

#26451

On October 24 2010 14:14 gtrsrs wrote:
if you're garen with FoN and 2 warmogs, and you haven't been hit in the last 7 seconds... perseverance is a pretty good skill to have leveled

Cuz when you have 200+ hp5, spending 3 mastery points to get a Regrowth Pendant is totally relevant.

pahndah

1193 Posts

October 24 2010 06:01 GMT

#26452

Free is Free, what are you doing dying anyway as Garen?

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

October 24 2010 06:08 GMT

#26453

Being brave tower diving at level 1.
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DEMACIAAAAA

DefMatrixUltra

Canada1992 Posts

October 24 2010 06:31 GMT

#26454

On October 24 2010 14:52 TheYango wrote:

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Cuz when you have 200+ hp5, spending 3 mastery points to get a Regrowth Pendant is totally relevant.

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I think that was the joke.

seppolevne

Canada1681 Posts

October 24 2010 06:32 GMT

#26455

How do you guys build AP Yi? I've been going cloth+5, razor (helps jungling), boots, zhonya, lichbane. Item suggestions? Rylai/RoA?

...Hybrid?

Daxunyrr

United States190 Posts

October 24 2010 06:33 GMT

#26456

So, anyone else having troubles logging on?

My game crashed 3 times in a row and now I cant even get it to the launcher. It just sends me this message saying...

Unable to connect to the server. If you have a firewall, it may be blocking the conneciton. Please refer to your firewall's documentation. Would you like to retry the connection?

This is the first time its happened to me on this machine. Any idea wtf's going on?

lIlIlIlIlIlI

Korea (South)3851 Posts

October 24 2010 06:59 GMT

#26457

--- Nuked ---

Southlight

United States11767 Posts

October 24 2010 07:20 GMT

#26458

28 minutes of farm and only 200 creep kills lol

arb

Noobville17921 Posts

October 24 2010 07:34 GMT

#26459

On October 24 2010 15:08 HazMat wrote:
Being brave tower diving at level 1.
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DEMACIAAAAA

tower diving at 1 with garen results in a pentakill 3 outer towers and the nexus

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

October 24 2010 07:48 GMT

#26460

On October 24 2010 15:32 seppolevne wrote:
How do you guys build AP Yi? I've been going cloth+5, razor (helps jungling), boots, zhonya, lichbane. Item suggestions? Rylai/RoA?

...Hybrid?

2 dorans ring sorc boots while laning (you can farm ez pz with alpha strike, and meditate will keep you in lane, buy chalice you dont have mp5 yellows so youre able to spamm inifinitely)
follow that up with haunting guise / zhonya / lichbane
If youre having trouble surviving i recommend spirit visage, fine amount of health / mr / cdr and ofc the healing will scale so wonderfully with meditate

Thats atleast how I do it