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Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 23 2010 23:03 GMT
#26401
On October 24 2010 07:59 Jawa~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 07:57 Caller wrote:
On October 24 2010 07:03 Arckan wrote:
What is TL's opinion on Mordekaiser? I bought him last night for kicks and giggles, but feel like I might be interested in playing him in ranked games after my little test run.

The build I went last night was: Merc treads, RO, Frozen Mallet, FoN, Warmog's, Frozen Heart (not in that order, I believe I built Warmog's first). I maxed E and W first, grabbing ult when applicable.

What kind of play-style is suggested? Should I jungle with Mordekaiser? What skill order should I go? What items should I get and in what order?

I'm sure this has been asked before, but after 10 minutes of using the search function I've only been able to find references to Mord without actual insight on how to play him. I trust the great and powerful TL over a random guide on a community site, thanks in advance.

e-q then r>e>w>q
warmogs = bad
rylais > frozen mallet
frozen heart = bad
triforce always
last hit unti 7
push lanes aggressively when u can
go farm



My roommate mains Mord and rushes FoN into Sunfire Cloak. Mord should never get triforce, that is turrible advice.

I personally don't like rushing FoN, but lots of other Mordes do... so who knows.

I open with regen bead + 6 pots, (can get a ward at start too if ur team lacks jungle). First trip back get wardens/boots.

Omen -> merd treads -> FoN or sunfire depending on what u need. Then build the other.

After that just wing it depending on enemy/your team. Need more MR? stack abyssal scepter. Need armor? You have lotsa choices, etc.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 23:06:51
October 23 2010 23:05 GMT
#26402
On October 23 2010 13:24 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2010 13:08 oberon wrote:
OK guys, with the demise of Gozey, I'm going to (try to?) run a TL inhouse. Unlike Gozey, I'm going to try to mix things up a bit to keep things fun, since TL has a pretty diverse skill range. Sign up by November 12th, tournament on November 14th, 17:00 GMT (+00:00) 19:00 GMT (+00:00) (note: this will be after daylight savings ends, so it'll be 2pm eastern time; TL's time tag may currently imply 3pm eastern) (second note: moved 2 hours later so west coasters can play). Here are the rules:

Signups are individual. I will cut off at multiples of five. If I get 27 signups, the last two people to sign up will be dropped.

PM me to sign up.

Teams will be auto-generated based on ELO to keep things even.

Series will be three games.

Game 1: Teams will draft from the week's free champions (10 free champs means no bans). You are drafting for the OTHER TEAM. In other words, you want to pick the worst, weakest, most unbalanced composition possible. Standard 1-2-2-2-2-1 pick order.

Game 2: Teams will take turns banning from the free champions, 1-2-1-1, with the team that lost game 1 going second (and getting 3 bans). This will leave 5 free champions remaining. Both teams will consist of these champions (mirror match).

Game 3: ARAM!

I'd like to use more than the free champs, but not everyone has everything, and keeping lists of who you can legally ban/force the other team to use based on who has what is too much of a hassle.


Self-quoting since I've hit the end of a page. Blast.

I'll continue to occasionally quote this -- help keeping it in the public eye appreciated.

HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 23 2010 23:11 GMT
#26403
Don't think people want an inhouse tourney since the last one failed horribly and we have inhouse games almost everyday.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
October 23 2010 23:17 GMT
#26404
best way to play morde:
flat armor runes, go mid.
Rape their ranged carry and buy EVEN more armor , chain, HoG, tabi, etc.
keep raping their ranged carry
establish complete control from midgame
lose anyways no matter how far ahead you are late game !
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 23:23:09
October 23 2010 23:19 GMT
#26405
For morde:
I always open doran's shield, and I always get sorc boots afterwards. Always. A lot of people are under the mentality that they can ignore Mord, so I prefer to punish them for it.
W is win, Q is suck. R>W>E> I only get Q when it's the only thing I can get. (personal preference, I just find it drains too much health in the laning phase against opponents with keyboards)

I usually always open with at least one sunfire and then as with all tanks, build situationally based on the opponent's comp. His W when it's max'd is already literally like 2 sunfires, so his farming while already ridiculous, becomes even more silly.
I personally hate Warmogs and health stacking, I see so many goddam mords open Warmogs. Frozen Mallet is too expensive, in my opinion but I think Frozen Mallet also works for his ghost whereas Rylai's doesn't. (not 100% on this)

Key situational items though: Randuins, Sunfire, FoN.

Also things to note: taking mid is hilarious when you don't have a jungler or their jungler isn't on top of things, you can clear the wraith camps in about 3 seconds giving you level 6 ahead of their mid carry (ult/ignore,hit once and they usually run dying)

Edit: I forgot I usually run MR/L runes on mord which is why I opt for sorc boots and at least one sunfire as my core.
HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 23:22:29
October 23 2010 23:22 GMT
#26406
well i know liz works on his ghost so im pretty sure it would be frozen mallet, not rylais
but you shouldnt get rylas on morde ,ever, so it doesnt matter!
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Papvin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark610 Posts
October 23 2010 23:22 GMT
#26407
On October 24 2010 07:41 TALegion wrote:
Can I just ask one question: Why does the community for this game suck? (THIS IS NOT HATE, READ ON)

Many of my RL friends have had this game for a few months, and seeing as they're all still playing, I thought I'd try this game out. I've only played a few matches, and it seems to be the same situation every game. A good 75%-90% of people (I'm not accusing/assuming anyone here is a jerk. Innocent until proven guilty) just BM and bitch the ENTIRE. FUCKING. GAME.
Some people I've asked says it's been a reoccurring theme, stemming from DotA, which I never played extensively either.

The game itself is rather good, and would enjoy playing more if I didn't get the feeling that I'm playing with angry, socially awkward 12-year olds in their parents basement. I can take BM, I don't care about it overall, but constant, retarded barrages of children sounding like sailors just makes the experience awkward for me.

I unfortunately can't answer your question, but you're nonetheless correct. Most people playing LoL are from the deepest of human garbage. The only effective way to deal with I've found is to completely ignore people if they are being tards. If you can stand it, don't ingame ignore them, they might still say something relevant about the game, but just don't listen to any of their bullshit. Discussing with these morons has no point, because they don't understand ethics that doesn't stem directly from their adrenaline. Just think of nice people you know so you won't lose your faith in the human race completely, and ignore the idiots. I'm not kidding -.-.
"It's criminally negligent to dismiss Rock's contributions to other people's careers", Dukethegold
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 23 2010 23:23 GMT
#26408
On October 24 2010 08:19 Maedi wrote:
For morde:
I always open doran's shield, and I always get sorc boots afterwards. Always. A lot of people are under the mentality that they can ignore Mord, so I prefer to punish them for it.
W is win, Q is suck. R>W>E> I only get Q when it's the only thing I can get. (personal preference, I just find it drains too much health in the laning phase against opponents with keyboards)



Woahhh are you crazy? Yes his Q sucks but ALWAYS LEVEL E OVER W!!!

Only way to keep your shield charged, and it's your harassing tool all laning phase. I *love* Morde's W spell, but his E *needs* to be maxed first.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
October 23 2010 23:24 GMT
#26409
On October 24 2010 08:23 Haemonculus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 08:19 Maedi wrote:
For morde:
I always open doran's shield, and I always get sorc boots afterwards. Always. A lot of people are under the mentality that they can ignore Mord, so I prefer to punish them for it.
W is win, Q is suck. R>W>E> I only get Q when it's the only thing I can get. (personal preference, I just find it drains too much health in the laning phase against opponents with keyboards)



Woahhh are you crazy? Yes his Q sucks but ALWAYS LEVEL E OVER W!!!

Only way to keep your shield charged, and it's your harassing tool all laning phase. I *love* Morde's W spell, but his E *needs* to be maxed first.



E is Siphon, right? Yeah. I max his shield over siphon just because it does more damage and you can throw it on creeps to deny/harass as well. Since you push their tower (most likely) you can just throw it on a creep, preferrably the siege creep to get more creep kills/charge shield/deny melee champs. Dunno. How I roll.
DefMatrixUltra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1992 Posts
October 23 2010 23:42 GMT
#26410
I don't think Flash will nerf anyone nearly as bad as Twitch. Playing as Twitch, having Cleanse and Flash up for a fight allows you to soak up that last CC that wasn't blown and reposition to a safer spot so you can keep the hurt going with your ultimate. It will be much easier to stick on you now and your team will have to be that much more zealous about protecting your ass.

I can understand that Flash is often total BS (getting away from a 4 man gank with someone already stuck on you is retarded), but Flash is also an incredible offensive tool. Garen, Rammus, Galio, Amumu, Morgana etc. all use Flash offensively if they can. Losing those cool offensive uses is gonna be pretty sad because I'm sure that all those guys will be getting Merc Treads unless they are really stupid or up against a joke team.

On the other hand, Kassadin is buffed a lot (total plus) and people that do stupid shit in their lane get nerfed a lot (total plus). Udyr's coming to get you. Be afraid.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 23 2010 23:47 GMT
#26411
On October 24 2010 08:24 Maedi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 08:23 Haemonculus wrote:
On October 24 2010 08:19 Maedi wrote:
For morde:
I always open doran's shield, and I always get sorc boots afterwards. Always. A lot of people are under the mentality that they can ignore Mord, so I prefer to punish them for it.
W is win, Q is suck. R>W>E> I only get Q when it's the only thing I can get. (personal preference, I just find it drains too much health in the laning phase against opponents with keyboards)



Woahhh are you crazy? Yes his Q sucks but ALWAYS LEVEL E OVER W!!!

Only way to keep your shield charged, and it's your harassing tool all laning phase. I *love* Morde's W spell, but his E *needs* to be maxed first.



E is Siphon, right? Yeah. I max his shield over siphon just because it does more damage and you can throw it on creeps to deny/harass as well. Since you push their tower (most likely) you can just throw it on a creep, preferrably the siege creep to get more creep kills/charge shield/deny melee champs. Dunno. How I roll.

also cant last hit waves with it and your shield wont ever be fully charged
maxing w over e is stupid
i hate to tell you
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Maedi
Profile Joined August 2009
United States477 Posts
October 23 2010 23:53 GMT
#26412
On October 24 2010 08:47 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 08:24 Maedi wrote:
On October 24 2010 08:23 Haemonculus wrote:
On October 24 2010 08:19 Maedi wrote:
For morde:
I always open doran's shield, and I always get sorc boots afterwards. Always. A lot of people are under the mentality that they can ignore Mord, so I prefer to punish them for it.
W is win, Q is suck. R>W>E> I only get Q when it's the only thing I can get. (personal preference, I just find it drains too much health in the laning phase against opponents with keyboards)



Woahhh are you crazy? Yes his Q sucks but ALWAYS LEVEL E OVER W!!!

Only way to keep your shield charged, and it's your harassing tool all laning phase. I *love* Morde's W spell, but his E *needs* to be maxed first.



E is Siphon, right? Yeah. I max his shield over siphon just because it does more damage and you can throw it on creeps to deny/harass as well. Since you push their tower (most likely) you can just throw it on a creep, preferrably the siege creep to get more creep kills/charge shield/deny melee champs. Dunno. How I roll.

also cant last hit waves with it and your shield wont ever be fully charged
maxing w over e is stupid
i hate to tell you


Cool attitude. It's personal preference, it's not like you WON'T have siphon to use. Just means W will be a rank or two above Siphon. Let's all pigeonhole into our gamestyles and then freak out when someone offers a different perspective. It's worked fantastically for me and I'd like to think I play a pretty decent Mord. My opinion, your opinion, next song.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-23 23:57:53
October 23 2010 23:57 GMT
#26413
On October 24 2010 07:59 Jawa~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2010 07:57 Caller wrote:
On October 24 2010 07:03 Arckan wrote:
What is TL's opinion on Mordekaiser? I bought him last night for kicks and giggles, but feel like I might be interested in playing him in ranked games after my little test run.

The build I went last night was: Merc treads, RO, Frozen Mallet, FoN, Warmog's, Frozen Heart (not in that order, I believe I built Warmog's first). I maxed E and W first, grabbing ult when applicable.

What kind of play-style is suggested? Should I jungle with Mordekaiser? What skill order should I go? What items should I get and in what order?

I'm sure this has been asked before, but after 10 minutes of using the search function I've only been able to find references to Mord without actual insight on how to play him. I trust the great and powerful TL over a random guide on a community site, thanks in advance.

e-q then r>e>w>q
warmogs = bad
rylais > frozen mallet
frozen heart = bad
triforce always
last hit unti 7
push lanes aggressively when u can
go farm



My roommate mains Mord and rushes FoN into Sunfire Cloak. Mord should never get triforce, that is turrible advice.

zzzzzzz
zzzzzzzz
triforce morde is bravest morde

also wtf
rylais works with all of mordes abilities
you get red instead of frozen mallet cuz this way u can catch people with ur e/w/r. and then u kill them to death.

by the time u finish ur triforce usually ur q is at a decent level so u can mace of spades everybody for 1000000 damage.

typical build order
fon
merc treads
trinity force
if game isnt over, randuins
if game still isnt over, abyssal scepter
if game still isnt over, rylais
game ends

by the way run ghost/ignite always, unless ur brave like me, cuz i go ghost/flash.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 24 2010 00:07 GMT
#26414
how does ghostflash make u brave. caller, i am disappoint
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
October 24 2010 00:09 GMT
#26415
Anyone else watching HSGG stream? First time he doesn't dodge/rage at Reginald, they pretty much rape their opponents, almost fail a few times, then he decides to go brave 6 maladies nidalee and dies on purpose to let their morde get a penta. Good times lol.
Daxunyrr
Profile Joined August 2010
United States190 Posts
October 24 2010 00:11 GMT
#26416
The story of Melee VS Lux.


YOU JUMP LUX FROM BEHIND!

YOU GET SNARED WHEN YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT TO HIT HER AND UNABLE TO DODGE THE SNARE.

YOU CHASEH ER! YOUR HIT BY SNARE OR SLOW! YOU SLOW HER IN RETALIATION, SHES SITLL FASTER AND CAN GHOST ;D

YOU CANT REACH HER NOW. SHE POPS A SNARE & BEAMS THE HELL OUTTA YOUR FACE.

Lovin it.
Stop bitching bout people who suck and teach em how to play.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 24 2010 00:37 GMT
#26417
that sounds kinda similar to morgana v melee, or any caster w/ cc vs melee for that matter...
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
October 24 2010 00:40 GMT
#26418
On October 24 2010 09:37 barbsq wrote:
that sounds kinda similar to morgana v melee, or any caster w/ cc vs melee for that matter...


Lux is alot like Morg imho. Her spells are slightly weaker, but multi-target, and seem to hit things regardless of how badly you aim lol.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
October 24 2010 00:44 GMT
#26419
so many teamfights are won when morgana/lux accidentally bind the enemy ranged carry when he/she pokes his face out from behind their tanks
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Daxunyrr
Profile Joined August 2010
United States190 Posts
October 24 2010 00:45 GMT
#26420
Best part is I got called a "gay nigger cuntbag" for bitchin out their Lux for being a Light-version of Morgana, the OP cracker.

I love this community sometimes...

-attempting to not rage, though its becoming increasingly difficult-
Stop bitching bout people who suck and teach em how to play.
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