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HeavOnEarth
United States7087 Posts
On October 20 2010 12:28 nesteaplunger wrote: Are dodge quints even good on anyone? Debating whether I should grab the Halloween ones. I already have the dodge seals and when I first got them, I noticed their effects immediately. jax for jungling | ||
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Navi
5286 Posts
On October 20 2010 12:28 nesteaplunger wrote: Are dodge quints even good on anyone? Debating whether I should grab the Halloween ones. I already have the dodge seals and when I first got them, I noticed their effects immediately. imo unless you main jax movespeed quints are more useful on most heroes... why should you dodge an autoattack that you could have ran away from :D if you have enough rune pages so that you can build a dodge page for junglers / jax etc. then that sounds dandy, but with my two rune pages i go for widespread usability >.> | ||
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Rice
United States1332 Posts
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Ruthless
United States492 Posts
On October 20 2010 12:33 Navi wrote: imo unless you main jax movespeed quints are more useful on most heroes... why should you dodge an autoattack that you could have ran away from :D if you have enough rune pages so that you can build a dodge page for junglers / jax etc. then that sounds dandy, but with my two rune pages i go for widespread usability >.> maybe because you can hit back while dodging? or maybe because the damage prevented by dodge is >> movement speed benefit. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i54.tinypic.com/da7ap.jpg) LIQUIDPARTY A USEFUL PLACE | ||
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mrgerry
United States1508 Posts
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Navi
5286 Posts
On October 20 2010 12:41 Ruthless wrote: maybe because you can hit back while dodging? or maybe because the damage prevented by dodge is >> movement speed benefit. wat this makes no sense to me so you would take a 10-20% chance of dodging instead of taking no damage at all? damage prevented by dodge is only really "consistent" in jungle unless you're up against a full physical dps team... at which point you should stop tryharding and build 6 sunfire capes 'sides, can't dodge spells but you can run the hell away from skillshots or from casting zones both of which are aided by movequints and they help to get around the map a bit easier and they make demacia more easy etc. dodge runes and items have diminishing returns the more you get them seeing as the formula for them makes it so that, say, you have a 20% dodge chance item (pdancer) and get two of them you would have 80% chance of getting hit with the first pdancer and then the next 20% comes out of the 80% chance of getting hit which becomes 36% dodge instead of 40. they have historically been outshined by other runes but ofc are nice on jax because he actually has a skill that both increases dodge chance and can be used after a dodge | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On October 20 2010 14:09 Navi wrote: wat this makes no sense to me so you would take a 10-20% chance of dodging instead of taking no damage at all? damage prevented by dodge is only really "consistent" in jungle unless you're up against a full physical dps team... at which point you should stop tryharding and build 6 sunfire capes 'sides, can't dodge spells but you can run the hell away from skillshots or from casting zones both of which are aided by movequints and they help to get around the map a bit easier and they make demacia more easy etc. dodge runes and items have diminishing returns the more you get them seeing as the formula for them makes it so that, say, you have a 20% dodge chance item (pdancer) and get two of them you would have 80% chance of getting hit with the first pdancer and then the next 20% comes out of the 80% chance of getting hit which becomes 36% dodge instead of 40. they have historically been outshined by other runes but ofc are nice on jax because he actually has a skill that both increases dodge chance and can be used after a dodge I think what he was trying to say, is some heroes don't want to just run away and not take any damage, some heroes want to kill the hero thats fighting them head to head, in that case dodge quints are better personally I like move quints, they are awesome | ||
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Niton
United States2395 Posts
![[image loading]](http://oi55.tinypic.com/28j9o9u.jpg) I am a teemo savant. Mad props to Flakes for awesome initiation and Caller's PC for taking him out of the game for 10 minutes (where we proceeded to start winning from 13-27) | ||
Atrioc
United States1866 Posts
Does anyone have any sort of advice for this hero? How good is he in the jungle? What are common masteries? Good lane partner? etc. This skin (and the insane dodge seal investment) are making me want to play him, but I need some knowledge. | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On October 20 2010 14:36 Atrioc wrote: Well after playing primarily nothing but AP heroes, I got ahold of a Pax Jax skin and (with the recent buff) decided to spend an absolutely ridiculous amount of IP on a Jax runepage (ArPen reds, Dodge Seals, Flat Cooldown Blues, Flat HP Quints). Does anyone have any sort of advice for this hero? How good is he in the jungle? What are common masteries? Good lane partner? etc. This skin (and the insane dodge seal investment) are making me want to play him, but I need some knowledge. no idea on jungling whatsoever this is laning jax as jax, like any melee carry, you need an advantage mid game in order to be somewhat decent. all viable melee carries atm have 1 thing in common, they jungle or just are very efficient without many items (xin/ww/olaf/master yi/pantheon) i think ww and olaf are more like tanks then dps but they both do a ton of dmg without items. not sure about after the buffs but the problem with the hero is that he's extremely rng dependant, in the jungle in the lane etc. solo jax can be viable, you are off quite a lot better during mid game. jump onto squishies or the easiest target and whack the shit outa him, you aren't a tank because you have no mitigation towards magic so use your head. i think that's the hardest part about jax, knowing when to fight. item build usually is guinsoos -> your choice. you can go tankier if your team is short on meat shields, choices include banshees/randuins and general good tank items. dps a common build is guinsoos atmas triple pot then GA, ga is always a good item on squishy melee dps. you can go starks after and inf edge if you're still not done. quicksilver sash is good, get it if theres a galio/malz/ww etc. pop elixirs often, it's important on jax since he benefits from them so much. not sure what the skill build is for sure, im guessing 1 in each max q then max e or w . o yeah red buff, always take it it's so important on jax. top 10 heroes in the game who needs it imo and don't ever get a phantom dancer unless it's your like 5th item and they have 2 or more melee dps i haven't played jax seriously for a long time so yeaah | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
vsed a 0-9 garen with leviathan. played with a 1-11 lux with soulstealer who called me an idiot (I was 2-1-2 at the time, and only died b/c of a 5 man gank at mid tower when I got stunned by anivia, slowed by karthus, and nuked down .....my team was too dumb to fricken come when I tell them) Demacia just isn't what it used to be.  | ||
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LightRailCoyote
United States982 Posts
ITW manning up and playing kennen like a boss. | ||
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brian
United States9644 Posts
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LightRailCoyote
United States982 Posts
they're getting rolled, fakesteve is like 0-10 or something with annie  | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On October 20 2010 15:19 LightRailCoyote wrote: Milkfat streaming vs TLFakesteve and ITW. ITW manning up and playing kennen like a boss. Damn I thought we made him quit! Guess I can put my status back to making fun of his amazing last hitting skills though... | ||
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LightRailCoyote
United States982 Posts
On October 20 2010 15:26 red_ wrote: Damn I thought we made him quit! Guess I can put my status back to making fun of his amazing last hitting skills though... I really want to queue vs. the legend. Wonder how he'd do with WW dicking his jungle. | ||
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BlueBird.
United States3890 Posts
On October 20 2010 15:25 LightRailCoyote wrote: m1lk.net they're getting rolled, fakesteve is like 0-10 or something with annie how is he matched up like that, I thought fakesteve just downloaded a few days ago :/ | ||
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
On October 20 2010 15:30 BraveGhost wrote: how is he matched up like that, I thought fakesteve just downloaded a few days ago :/ fakesteve is in a premade | ||
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