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On October 20 2010 08:24 -Kato- wrote:
Am I the only one more than willing to pay 1k more for that 0.11% movespeed?
I really need the best runes i can get!
I fail to see the point of the Tier 2 Quints. They're all trivial bonuses so you might as well get the best bonus seeing as IP is unlimited. I suppose they'd be nice if you're level 10 and want some almost Tier 3 stuff...but even then ^_^
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Yes, most people want the best runes that they can get. But most people also have to be realistic. Spending 20,000 IP (might be lower, might be higher, depending on types of runes) on a single rune page is not within most people's abilities. And that's only for one, so getting a rune page for a DPS and a mage might possibly run upwards of 40,000 IP. At a generous average of 100 IP per game, that's 400 games played. That's simply not possible for many people, especially with buying champions included. But if you have the IP, then go ahead and buy it. Any advantage, however small, is still an advantage.
On a side note, not to change the conversation, but what do people think of the new malady? +50% attack speed and 25 AP, along with, I think, the only on hit magic resist decrease in the game right now, anyone think it's viable? At least on a champion like Kayle?
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On October 20 2010 08:22 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 08:00 Seuss wrote:
I generally like CDR, but not on Akali. She's not limited by her cooldowns in team fights but by her energy and Shadow Dance charges (and ability to survive). It's not worthless, but its usefulness is questionable. Basically, when I think dubious masteries I'm thinking Greed, Perseverance, and to an extent Quickness and Intelligence. These are coming at the cost of Ardor, Veteran's Scars and Harden Skin. For jungling those aren't trivial choices. Quickness is dubious on a jungler? Isn't the whole point of 1/14/15 on normal junglers that the 3% ms helps your jungling speed?
That's why I said to an extent. The issue here is that this isn't Quickness in a vacuum, but Quickness+Greed+1/3 Perseverance at the cost of Ardor and 2/4 Veteran's Scars.
If you watch the video with the Akali guide on the forums, you'll see that without Quickness he catches up with the spawn rate of the camps during his second run through, turning the corner at the wolf camp literally the instant after it spawns. On his third pass, he actually arrives at the golems before they spawn despite initially running in the wrong direction. Quickness will still theoretically speed this up by a tiny margin, but not by as much as it would for another jungler.
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I'm only lv12 so I like the new quints. Can you use them past the 1st though, or can you only shop for them until then?
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New malady has it's uses now but it won't be viable on very many heroes. Even then I find it hard to buy this on kog or teemo since I gotta spend a bunch of gold tanking them up in some cases and rely on Bloodrazer as my sole dps.
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On October 20 2010 08:14 Caller wrote:
Lux feels like and handles like a glassier but more long range version of miss fortune.
the entire point of her is to hang out in the very fringe of the fight and constantly bind/slow/nuke people. With super long range and short ass cooldowns she can put a lot of damage into the fight, especially with lich bane and what not.
Her main problem is that she's squishy as fuck, even with her shield poop. And she does really bad against people that don't need to be near her to do damage, or stealth champs. Like teemo. Fucking teemo.
Also karthus tends to be pretty strong as well, as does virtually anyone that can get near her. I get mobility boots on her instead of sorc boots for this reason-namely, that she doesn't need to be actively in the fight, she just needs to not get hit.
Her shield is 1500+like. 2ap overall healing vs aoe.
That shit is crazy.
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On October 20 2010 08:45 PieceOCake wrote:
I'm only lv12 so I like the new quints. Can you use them past the 1st though, or can you only shop for them until then?
They'll last forever but only be in the store for a limited time.
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On October 20 2010 08:45 PieceOCake wrote:
I'm only lv12 so I like the new quints. Can you use them past the 1st though, or can you only shop for them until then?
wow you have same ID as my friend. THIEF!!
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On October 20 2010 08:45 mrgerry wrote:
New malady has it's uses now but it won't be viable on very many heroes. Even then I find it hard to buy this on kog or teemo since I gotta spend a bunch of gold tanking them up in some cases and rely on Bloodrazer as my sole dps.
Yeah I see your point. At 1825 gold, that is probably better spent on a BF Sword or something. But I'm just thinking that on Kayle, after you get your Guinsoo's and stinger's and all, it's not really necessary to get any more survivability, since you just Ult your way out of anything and shouldn't be in the fray anyways. Maybe it's just still a very situational item. It also seems a lot better on the gold ratio too. A recurve bow (40% attack speed) plus a dagger (15%) and a amplifying tomb (20 AP) would cost 1905 gold for about the same stats, but 80 more gold. So basically, you would be getting the extra 20 magic damage and 6 magic resist decrease per attack for free. At the very least, it's way more useful than before.
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malady is pretty good on kayle
i had rageblade/malady/infinity edge/nashors so much dps lol
should of seen me melt karthus
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On October 20 2010 08:47 L wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 08:14 Caller wrote:
Lux feels like and handles like a glassier but more long range version of miss fortune.
the entire point of her is to hang out in the very fringe of the fight and constantly bind/slow/nuke people. With super long range and short ass cooldowns she can put a lot of damage into the fight, especially with lich bane and what not.
Her main problem is that she's squishy as fuck, even with her shield poop. And she does really bad against people that don't need to be near her to do damage, or stealth champs. Like teemo. Fucking teemo.
Also karthus tends to be pretty strong as well, as does virtually anyone that can get near her. I get mobility boots on her instead of sorc boots for this reason-namely, that she doesn't need to be actively in the fight, she just needs to not get hit. Her shield is 1500+like. 2ap overall healing vs aoe. That shit is crazy.
wat its .6 overall ap ratio
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On October 20 2010 09:15 eagle wrote:
malady is pretty good on kayle
i had rageblade/malady/infinity edge/nashors so much dps lol
should of seen me melt karthus
Hahaha it's always fun to melt karthus. He, of all champs besides Twitch and Garen, deserve it. By the way, I've never thought of infinity edge on Kayle. I'll have to try that out then. I don't know what to get after rageblade and nashors, since she owns so much anyways.
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On October 20 2010 09:32 ramblinguy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 09:15 eagle wrote:
malady is pretty good on kayle
i had rageblade/malady/infinity edge/nashors so much dps lol
should of seen me melt karthus Hahaha it's always fun to melt karthus. He, of all champs besides Twitch and Garen, deserve it. By the way, I've never thought of infinity edge on Kayle. I'll have to try that out then. I don't know what to get after rageblade and nashors, since she owns so much anyways.
so many people getting nashoors, you guys need to try Ghostblade..
not that I don't like Nashoors, I used to always go GRB, Nashoors.. but Ghostblade gives you damage + crit chance, and you still get cooldown, + you get armor pen as well as movement speed all in one package.
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On October 20 2010 09:25 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 08:47 L wrote:On October 20 2010 08:14 Caller wrote:
Lux feels like and handles like a glassier but more long range version of miss fortune.
the entire point of her is to hang out in the very fringe of the fight and constantly bind/slow/nuke people. With super long range and short ass cooldowns she can put a lot of damage into the fight, especially with lich bane and what not.
Her main problem is that she's squishy as fuck, even with her shield poop. And she does really bad against people that don't need to be near her to do damage, or stealth champs. Like teemo. Fucking teemo.
Also karthus tends to be pretty strong as well, as does virtually anyone that can get near her. I get mobility boots on her instead of sorc boots for this reason-namely, that she doesn't need to be actively in the fight, she just needs to not get hit. Her shield is 1500+like. 2ap overall healing vs aoe. That shit is crazy. wat its .6 overall ap ratio
It hits 10 targets.
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On October 20 2010 09:36 BraveGhost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 09:32 ramblinguy wrote:On October 20 2010 09:15 eagle wrote:
malady is pretty good on kayle
i had rageblade/malady/infinity edge/nashors so much dps lol
should of seen me melt karthus Hahaha it's always fun to melt karthus. He, of all champs besides Twitch and Garen, deserve it. By the way, I've never thought of infinity edge on Kayle. I'll have to try that out then. I don't know what to get after rageblade and nashors, since she owns so much anyways. so many people getting nashoors, you guys need to try Ghostblade.. not that I don't like Nashoors, I used to always go GRB, Nashoors.. but Ghostblade gives you damage + crit chance, and you still get cooldown, + you get armor pen as well as movement speed all in one package.
nashors is overrated on kayle imo, critfinity ftw, esp since i run full asp page on her, so its not like i need a whole lot more after grb+greenpot
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Best Teemo build ever? (Yea we lost but I didn't do too bad!)
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On October 20 2010 09:40 L wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 09:25 Caller wrote:On October 20 2010 08:47 L wrote:On October 20 2010 08:14 Caller wrote:
Lux feels like and handles like a glassier but more long range version of miss fortune.
the entire point of her is to hang out in the very fringe of the fight and constantly bind/slow/nuke people. With super long range and short ass cooldowns she can put a lot of damage into the fight, especially with lich bane and what not.
Her main problem is that she's squishy as fuck, even with her shield poop. And she does really bad against people that don't need to be near her to do damage, or stealth champs. Like teemo. Fucking teemo.
Also karthus tends to be pretty strong as well, as does virtually anyone that can get near her. I get mobility boots on her instead of sorc boots for this reason-namely, that she doesn't need to be actively in the fight, she just needs to not get hit. Her shield is 1500+like. 2ap overall healing vs aoe. That shit is crazy. wat its .6 overall ap ratio It hits 10 targets.
You're assuming that you'll hit 5 people twice each and that every shield will get consumed, when the first one gets refreshed over within like a second (depending on where your teammates are standing), and the 2nd one only lasts 3 seconds.
That's unrealistic, to say the least. You're basically saying that none of your teammates will move enough to get out of one of the shields, and that either your team is out-of-position enough that every team member is taking AoE damage or the enemy team is so uncoordinated that they're actively trying to split damage amongst all 5 of you.
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On October 20 2010 09:43 barbsq wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2010 09:36 BraveGhost wrote:On October 20 2010 09:32 ramblinguy wrote:On October 20 2010 09:15 eagle wrote:
malady is pretty good on kayle
i had rageblade/malady/infinity edge/nashors so much dps lol
should of seen me melt karthus Hahaha it's always fun to melt karthus. He, of all champs besides Twitch and Garen, deserve it. By the way, I've never thought of infinity edge on Kayle. I'll have to try that out then. I don't know what to get after rageblade and nashors, since she owns so much anyways. so many people getting nashoors, you guys need to try Ghostblade.. not that I don't like Nashoors, I used to always go GRB, Nashoors.. but Ghostblade gives you damage + crit chance, and you still get cooldown, + you get armor pen as well as movement speed all in one package. nashors is overrated on kayle imo, critfinity ftw, esp since i run full asp page on her, so its not like i need a whole lot more after grb+greenpot
I pretty much never get nashors on her anymore, it's so inefficient. Just get a recurve bow for 2000 less gold, it's a way better deal.
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From what I seen so far, Lux is largely inferior to Janna in about all aspects
Tornado better than the snare thing
Janna has better shield that actually provides a LOT of damage for the team
Janna's slow is reliable + its a passive speed boost for herself
Janna's ult heals team for more than Lux's lazor does
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