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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
October 19 2010 21:17 GMT
#25481
4 extra arpen from masteries isn't nearly as good as 15% summoner cdr IMO
it's my first day
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 19 2010 21:20 GMT
#25482
On October 20 2010 06:16 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
The Halloween Quints are under Tier 2 Quints. They're 95% of a tier 3 quint for half the price. They have HP, MS, AP, Dodge, and something else I missed maybe...


+MPen
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 21:25:02
October 19 2010 21:23 GMT
#25483
How have you guys been playing Lux? She's a lot of fun but not sure what to raise. She doesn't really feel like a support champ and her ratios are OK. Thought her ulti was a lot better, though.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 19 2010 21:31 GMT
#25484
Can someone give me exact Lux #s? I'm stuck at school till like 9 :|
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 19 2010 21:32 GMT
#25485
On October 20 2010 06:15 Insanious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 06:06 radmax86 wrote:
On October 20 2010 05:42 Insanious wrote:
On October 20 2010 05:29 radmax86 wrote:
I've only scanned over this mathcrafting, but it looks to me like you guys are only considering PvP in the AR vs APen rune discussion. Something that you must keep in mind is that creeps have hardly any armor in the beginning of the game, so AD is going to be more effective in improving your last hitting.

Those early levels are so important for setting the tone of the game. An early CS advantage, with properly timed buying can help you snowball into late game and reach your end game items significantly faster than your opponent.

For this reason, I've always bought dorans blade on trist, even durring that phase when EVERYONE would give you shit for buying a doran blade. It may only be +6 dmg, but it makes is so much easier to time your last hits properly, that it pays for itself.

I'm looking forward to trying AD marks + Doran Shield, because that seems like it will be a much stronger opening than the APen + Doran Blade I usually run.

Well, taking marks = 3 more AD than Dorans blade...

If you still take ArPen quints, then you do +3 dmg vs caster and melee minions and -1dmg to tanks.. but to each their own i guess.

The extra armor could be very strong, who knows.


I run HP quints and 21 defense on trist too. Staying power in the lane is the important thing here, not maximum theoretical damage in the late game.




With Ghost, flash, rocket jump, and 700+ range I don't get pushed out of a lane very easily. So really, going 11/0/19 (what i actually run on my ranged carries) is fine on trist. Dorans blade is still +120HP, and to me the lifesteal is also nice (although very small, it does add up over a long amount of last hits... just saying).

Also, the extra ArPen helps:

1) Clearning jungle creeps in between waves
2) Defending your self vs your enemy, if you do more damage, they are less likely to attack you
3) End game defense. With ArPen Runes you take Super Creeps to 0 Armor.
4) Increases speed of you getting Red (again takes the lizzard to 0 Armor)

You forget that with 30Armor on the lizzard, your attacks do 23% less damage... that means it takes 23% longer to do lizzard with no ArPen runes. Yes your team helps, but sometimes they can't and sometimes the lizzard buff is clutch.


Except that you don't have 700 range until 20+ minutes into the game.

On October 20 2010 06:17 myopia wrote:
4 extra arpen from masteries isn't nearly as good as 15% summoner cdr IMO


Very much dependant on your champ. With Volley spam Ashe I have almost never run into a situation where 15% summoner cooldown would have helped me. Either my summoners were up or on too high cooldowns. The extra 3% or so damage however has probably netted me quite a few kills/assists that I would otherwise not have gotten.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
October 19 2010 21:33 GMT
#25486
thoughts on lich bane lux?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 19 2010 21:37 GMT
#25487
On October 20 2010 06:03 Darkchylde wrote:
Jungle Akali went high into offense tree for 2 reasons:

1) +dmg mastery, doran's sword, and a quint will allow you to get spell vamp passive

2) 2 spell dmg quints + ignite mastery allows you to get the +% spell dmg

Most guides recommended 21/0/9 although now that I think of it 15/0/15 would be pretty nice for Akali too.

If +dmg marks are more viable and her late game damage is mostly spell damage anyways, then Akali can do without going so high into offensive and do a 9/0/21 build. Although, you will have to chose ignite mastery or -% mres. Or do a 10/0/20. I jungled with Akali both with and without the spell dmg passive and I had to blue pill at blue buff without the spell dmg passive. I was able to do small golems, wraiths, wolves, and blue golem with ease with it though.

Anyone able to see the Halloween Quints, I see them advertised but nothing in the store? Probably nothing worth getting, but just curious to see what they are.


I don't see 9/0/21 as being the way forward on Akali. CDR isn't that great of a stat on her, and because she's a manaless champion you end up dumping a lot of points into dubious masteries just to get further than 11 points in Utility. Something like 1/19/10 for jungling sounds better.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 21:43:57
October 19 2010 21:43 GMT
#25488
1-8 manamune jungle jax 1800 rating np
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
Jupiter.sKy
Profile Joined December 2009
United States50 Posts
October 19 2010 21:52 GMT
#25489
lol chat always broken, seriously need to fix their freaking servers
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 19 2010 21:54 GMT
#25490
New Jax is pretty good.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
October 19 2010 21:56 GMT
#25491
On October 20 2010 06:31 Southlight wrote:
Can someone give me exact Lux #s? I'm stuck at school till like 9 :|

Don't remember them but she has sick lane control with her double snare + slow + passive that is similar to Sona's. Her shield is cool too but hard to aim. And her ulti is just amazingly fun, lol.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 19 2010 21:59 GMT
#25492
Q
60/75/90/105/120 mana
60/110/160/210/260 damage (+0.7 AP)
16/15/14/13/12s cd
2s bind
Hits 2 targets. The second one receives half the effect, which includes both damage and bind duration

W
75 mana
Blocks 50/75/100/125/150 (+0.3 AP) damage for each charge
3s duration
14/13/12/11/10s cd

E
70/85/100/115/130 mana
14/18.5/23/27.5/32% slow
60/105/150/195/240 damage (+0.6 AP) detonation (can be manually detonated, automatically goes off after 5s, cd doesn't start until it detonates)
11s cd

R
100/150/200 mana
300/400/500 (+0.75 AP)
80/60/40s cd

Hmm
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
October 19 2010 22:00 GMT
#25493
NOOOOOOO CHAAAAAATTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
October 19 2010 22:02 GMT
#25494
On October 20 2010 07:00 Kaniol wrote:
NOOOOOOO CHAAAAAATTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!


I can't access the store either, wanted to buy some of those new runes (50% price for 95% effect when I'll probably never be good enough to care about the last 5%? Yes please!).
Zero fighting.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 22:08:26
October 19 2010 22:07 GMT
#25495
On October 20 2010 04:28 Enki wrote:
Level up pheonix first level, do blue, pop an hp pot, Smite when its around 400 hp.


Why would you smite at 400hp when you can smite at 550ish?

PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT!
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
October 19 2010 22:08 GMT
#25496
That R is pretty hilariously strong. 500 Damage, 40s CDR?
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 19 2010 22:08 GMT
#25497
On October 20 2010 05:29 Southlight wrote:
One of the best ranged carryTwitch players in the game, if not the best.

dan dinh(dihn?) runs 21 offense on twitch too
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-19 22:10:13
October 19 2010 22:09 GMT
#25498
I had it down to 36s in rank 2 (game ended before I got rank 3) with 40% CDR

Lux is so awesome to play really
washed
Insanious
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1251 Posts
October 19 2010 22:10 GMT
#25499
Does anyone have the numbers on the halloween runes? I want to see what the benefits are for them for half cost... Might finally get some MS runes or something heh.
If you want to help me out... http://signup.leagueoflegends.com/?ref=4b82744b816d3
Lobotomy
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States300 Posts
October 19 2010 22:14 GMT
#25500
On October 20 2010 07:07 ghen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2010 04:28 Enki wrote:
Level up pheonix first level, do blue, pop an hp pot, Smite when its around 400 hp.


Why would you smite at 400hp when you can smite at 550ish?

PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhsTmiK7Q2M


*Snorts a huge line of Coke*

I'm George Jung baby!

PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT!

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